Turkey, Iran defy Iraq’s sovereignty in seemingly coordinated strikes

[mangekyo]

I don't have a 'vision', God introduced Islam us to us and provided us with Prophet Mohammed who taught us how to obey the Lord and make Islam a lifestyle for us. Without the Lord and his messenger, we wouldn't know the truth or be guided to it. You cannot be guided to the truth by reading the Quran or hadeeths like a manual. You have to be guided to them by God by taking steps towards him. He will then grant you the guidance. ISIS reads Quran and hadeeths like an instruction manual and think everything will fall in place if you follow instructions. It does not work like this.

There are many Muslims sects, schools of thought within Muslim world and this includes Sunni Muslim world as well. It's entirely possible for all tribes and sects to live under Islamic state without trouble. Muslims will have different approaches to worshiping God and different judgements on certain matters. That will never change. The problem is with people(of any sect) who have aims that don't serve God. They naturally will cause division because God told humans you will not prevail nor be guided by your own worldy ideologies and aims. Especially if you are Muslim, as the Prophet made prayers that God never allow us to go astray and God accepted his prayer so God will always push us back into place through various means.

Well then what you are describing is basically pre-war Syria

 

[Falcon29]

Well then what you are describing is basically pre-war Syria

Not even close, what do you know about Syria? Tell me everything you know about Syria, actual details of Syria not your political narrative of Syria. Did you know how many partying/concerts there was in Syria and how many people would curse the Lord there? There is no Islamic state anywhere in the region. It requires lots of change(for the better).

 

[Hack-Hook]

Any country that hosts Indian terrorists and spies will be seen as an enemy state.

This is the conundrum of failed Iranian policy. You may have gained some success in Iraq and Syria, but you have failed in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Now Turkish influence spreads in Syria and Iraq. Assad regime is starting to crumple.

You can host Centrum and CIA terrorists but we can use foreign funds in developing a city. How much hypocrite some guys can be.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The biggest problems in our relations is USA. We were going to feed Gwadar with natural gas and hence indirectly empowering PAK civilians econimical Wise. Same in case of Afghans.
There is no Indian collaboration With Iran. Its as bullshit as a flying pig lmao.

Zardari signed that deal, it was the most expensive one, Iranian gas was way too expensive. It was never going to work and was a political stunt. Nawaz did the same for the LNG deal with Qatar before he left.

Pakistan now is keen on Turkmenistan, to
diversify our supply from KSA, UAE.

I don't have a 'vision', God introduced Islam us to us and provided us with Prophet Mohammed who taught us how to obey the Lord and make Islam a lifestyle for us. Without the Lord and his messenger, we wouldn't know the truth or be guided to it. You cannot be guided to the truth by reading the Quran or hadeeths like a manual. You have to be guided to them by God by taking steps towards him. He will then grant you the guidance. ISIS reads Quran and hadeeths like an instruction manual and think everything will fall in place if you follow instructions. It does not work like this.

There are many Muslims sects, schools of thought within Muslim world and this includes Sunni Muslim world as well. It's entirely possible for all tribes and sects to live under Islamic state without trouble. Muslims will have different approaches to worshiping God and different judgements on certain matters. That will never change. The problem is with people(of any sect) who have aims that don't serve God. They naturally will cause division because God told humans you will not prevail nor be guided by your own worldy ideologies and aims. Especially if you are Muslim, as the Prophet made prayers that God never allow us to go astray and God accepted his prayer so God will always push us back into place through various means.

Jazak Allahu khair brother. Beautiful post you have made.

 

[Muhammed45]

Zardari signed that deal, it was the most expensive one, Iranian gas was way too expensive. It was never going to work and was a political stunt. Nawaz did the same for the LNG deal with Qatar before he left.

Pakistan now is keen on Turkmenistan, to
diversify our supply from KSA, UAE

Maybe you are not aware of those Contracts unfortunayely. You seem completely under informed in this case. UAE doesnt produce Gas, currently Pakistan is indirectly benefiting USA by buying high price LNG from Qatar under, if im not wrong, 30 years contract with Qatari LNG producing Company which has American companies technology. Under this lame contract, Pakistan has to pay a constant price tag for purchased LNG. Given the COVID19 effect on the price of oil and gas, Pakistan can not complain hence unable to pay for Qtari LNG with Market price. For freakin 30 years. There is no diversity but only US imposed Market on Pakistan. Pakidtani people have gone a Long way and i have never wished them bad. Hope this contract with Qatar brings you stability and prevents energy crisis. However it can never bring stability to your energy Market since LNG is the most unreliable way of importing natural gas.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Maybe you are not aware of those Contracts unfortunayely. You seem completely under informed in this case. UAE doesnt produce Gas, currently Pakistan is indirectly benefiting USA by buying high price LNG from Qatar under, if im not wrong, 30 years contract with Qatari LNG producing Company which has American companies technology. Under this lame contract, Pakistan has to pay a constant price tag for purchased LNG. Given the COVID19 effect on the price of oil and gas, Pakistan can not complain hence unable to pay for Qtari LNG with Market price. For freakin 30 years. There is no diversity but only US imposed Market on Pakistan. Pakidtani people have gone a Long way and i have never wished them bad. Hope this contract with Qatar brings you stability and prevents energy crisis. However it can never bring stability to your energy Market since LNG is the most unreliable way of importing natural gas.

US does not have say in it. Pakistan is one of several countries which use mostly LNG.

Both Iran and Qatar deals were bad for us and overpriced, yet Qatar was still better. Cost of US sanctions is also too high to justify the Iran pipeline.

Now also there is no more political will due to Chabahar and Indian terror from Iran.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Baradar, bi kari neshesti ba ye koskhole asheghe taleban bahs mikoni?

Reported. Atleast have courage to type in English, instead weakling abuses in Farsi.

 

[QWECXZ]

Reported. Atleast have courage to type in English, instead weakling abuses in Farsi.

Here's the full word by word translation for you:
"Brother, don't you have anything better to do than to waste your time talking to a Taliban lover lunatic?"

How's that an insult anyway? You have always boasted about your love for the Taliban. Why is that an abuse if you are proud of your support for them? lol

I wrote it in Persian because Muhammad is Iranian. I wanted to give him a brotherly advice that he shouldn't waste his valuable time on someone like you with really radical ideas. Just a personal opinion.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Reported. Atleast have courage to type in English, instead weakling abuses in Farsi.

bro he is right though. you always talk about islamic unity and cooperation but most of your posts really favour the likes of isis and taliban. if you really advocate for islamic unity you need to stop supporting taliban bro that group has done nothing at all for cooperation between muslim nations they just killed and sowed division

 

[mangekyo]

Not even close, what do you know about Syria? Tell me everything you know about Syria, actual details of Syria not your political narrative of Syria. Did you know how many partying/concerts there was in Syria and how many people would curse the Lord there? There is no Islamic state anywhere in the region. It requires lots of change(for the better).

You said your Islamic state would be for not only Sunnis, but for all religions and sects. If some parties curses the lords name, it's none of your business, they should be free to do whatever they want. Syria was a secular state with tolerance towards all religions sects. What you want is Pre War Syria, but with a Sunni ruler instead of an Alawite. That is the problem for most of you guys here. You just cant tolerate that a non Sunni is ruling over Syria.

 

[mike2000 is back]

This region is frequently and every year under Iran’s shelling, on the grounds that they are targeting Kurdish opposition parties.”

LOL Iraq(and Syria, Lybia, Yemen etc) doesn't have any sovereignty to speak of. Its a free for all. Good place to test weapon systems of various countries.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

LOL Iraq(and Syria, Lybia, Yemen etc) doesn't have any sovereignty to speak of. Its a free for all. Good place to test weapon systems of various countries.

Which is actually a dangerous thing, it's how a group like ISIS was able to come to existence. People think it's not going to harm the rest lol, look back just for a few years.

The US has led many of the middle eastern adventures, Europe follows. Another adventure could cause another refugee wave into Europe.

 

[Falcon29]

You said your Islamic state would be for not only Sunnis, but for all religions and sects. If some parties curses the lords name, it's none of your business, they should be free to do whatever they want. Syria was a secular state with tolerance towards all religions sects. What you want is Pre War Syria, but with a Sunni ruler instead of an Alawite. That is the problem for most of you guys here. You just cant tolerate that a non Sunni is ruling over Syria.

You guys don't seem to think things before you post it. If this is what I wanted I'd be content with the state of the ME and not suggest to form Islamic state. The rest is your projections you project on others which is done on purpose to suggest there is different cause to conflict in Syria. Protests erupted in Syria for same reason they did in Egypt , Libya, Tunisia and so on. Because of oppressive governments and citizens who decide they don't want to put up with it.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Which is actually a dangerous thing, it's how a group like ISIS was able to come to existence. People think it's not going to harm the rest lol, look back just for a few years.

The US has led many of the middle eastern adventures, Europe follows. Another adventure could cause another refugee wave into Europe.

I don't think the US wants any other adventure in the region. They had enough.In fact the US doesn't always need to be involved for things to flare up in the region,Look at Syria. In fact even now in Ira, your neighbours are also doing a good job bombing and policing your own territory. I'm sorry to say but Iraq under Saddam 's boots/oppression was far better. It would have been better for the U.S/West to let him stay in power until further notice. Democracy doesn't seem to fit countries like Iraq at this stage of development. Saddam was a very necessary Evil for Iraq. If Saddam was still in power you think Iran/Turkey etc would ever dare launch missiles/strikes repeatedly over Iraq's territory NO MATTER THE REASON? Iraq was a powerful/feared country in the region during his rule. Unfortunately today it's just a broken country where even it's developing countries neighbours are king makers in the country. Sad for a great country.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I don't think the US wants any other adventure in the region. They had enough.In fact the US doesn't always need to be involved for things to flare up in the region,Look at Syria. In fact even now in Ira, your neighbours are also doing a good job bombing and policing your own territory. I'm sorry to say but Iraq under Saddam 's boots/oppression was far better. It would have been better for the U.S/West to let him stay in power until further notice. Democracy doesn't seem to fit countries like Iraq at this stage of development. Saddam was a very necessary Evil for Iraq. If Saddam was still in power you think Iran/Turkey etc would ever dare launch missiles/strikes repeatedly over Iraq's territory NO MATTER THE REASON? Iraq was a powerful/feared country in the region during his rule. Unfortunately today it's just a broken country where even it's developing countries neighbours are king makers in the country. Sad for a great country.

US destroyed Iraq in every way, and now our neighbors are spreading cancer to the country. That's what this entire thread has been about. Despite America destroying Iraq, Iraq is better off working with the US to pull itself out of the situation it is in. Neighbors have nothing to offer but problems.

Our Arab neighbors made a big mistake of ignoring Iraq as if it didn't exist, they acted like a disappointed child not willing to 'play' with Iraq thus pushing it fully towards Iran. Then they showed more support towards ISIS disguised as revolutionaries, which is a failed project. Iran has won immensely from American policy, Iran could never remove Saddam on its own.