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Turkey defense minister travelled to Russia today and met with Russia defense minister

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Saudi Arabia, Egypt ect are not in a close alliance with us and a shared defense alliance. Its laughable to believe that Turkey would defend a european nation in an act of war. If Greece would be under attack, Turkey would join the attacks. Thats a simple fact. Its also ridicolous to believe turkish troops would fight and die to defend Rome.

We never believed that crap you tried to sell to Muslims. It's good that now the truth is coming from you!


The European values are exactly those that you cant understand, because your oriental culture. There are no proves against Gulen. USA cant simply extradict someone when a foreign country demands it. Infact judges decides that. Its not like in oriental countries where president orders and judges follow.

What values! You have no value but colonial mindset that makes you prop up mafia godfathers like that MBZ of UAE.


Several turkish officials got asylum in Italy. The "papers" Turkey send Italy were bogus and did not withstand what our courts see as proves.

Its obvious we cant work together, so this should end. Its better for both sides.

Your terror infested mindset cannot differentiate between what is bogus and what is genuine. So we're not surprised.


This feeling is shared from our point of view.

We dont see Turkey as friend and ally either and more as a security risk.

So we agree that this farce is better ended as soon as possible.

Turks are saying good riddance!
 
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We never believed that crap you tried to sell to Muslims. It's good that now the truth is coming from you!



What values! You have no value but colonial mindset that makes you prop up mafia godfathers like that MBZ of UAE.




Your terror infested mindset cannot differentiate between what is bogus and what is genuine. So we're not surprised.




Turks are saying good riddance!

We say that as well. So what are they waiting for?

Over 80% of european people want negotiations with Turkey end.

accept the truth marcus . italy is weak state even today is far worse than italian city states in history .:enjoy: dont hide the truths:D

We belong to 7 richest countries in the world. From September 12th to Octobre 9th im on a australia tour with my girl. How many turks can afford to spend 15.000€ for vacation?
 
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We say that as well. So what are they waiting for?

Over 80% of european people want negotiations with Turkey end.

Are you blind and deaf? You better see a doctor. Those Turks won't lose a night's sleep over you for sure. So stop blabbering the same sh!t.
 
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Are you blind and deaf? You better see a doctor. Those Turks won't lose a night's sleep over you for sure. So stop blabbering the same sh!t.

So whats the problem? Why so much crying from the oriental side?
 
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lol mate focus on italy which is decaying day by day. mafia, pope scandals, secret organizations,etc in reality they rule italy. there is no real democracy in italy

Italy is the mangy dog of Europe. It is mafia kingdom pretending to be a holy land.
 
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We say that as well. So what are they waiting for?

Over 80% of european people want negotiations with Turkey end.



We belong to 7 richest countries in the world. From September 12th to Octobre 9th im on a australia tour with my girl. How many turks can afford to spend 15.000€ for vacation?
i dont take care of your stupid private life. i am interested in italian state lol
 
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We belong to 7 richest countries in the world. From September 12th to Octobre 9th im on a australia tour with my girl. How many turks can afford to spend 15.000€ for vacation?

Italy,Greece,Spain,Portugal are sick man of the EU
dirty garbage cities , rubble houses , worn infrastructure , old cars , indebted economies

and millions of rich TURKS can afford 15.000€ for vacation ,, 15.000€ is nothing for millions of rich TURKS
even BMW 520 is €120.000 in Turkey and every year hundreds of thousands of luxury cars are sold in Turkey
Turkey has $2,1 trillion of GDP PPP ( 13th biggest economy in the World after Italy )

even Turkey lost over $1 trillion because of fighting Pkk terrorism since 1985 and military coups in Turkey

what about Italy ? nobody attack on Italy , still Italy has $2,3 trillion of GDP PPP
btw Italy has over $2 trillion of external debt , Turkey has only $440 billion of external debt

Over 80% of european people want negotiations with Turkey end.

and over 80% of Turkish people dont want to join into EU
 
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First we had the French Cheeseboy Troll now we have an Italian Mario troll, Mama Mia :omghaha:
 
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Italy,Greece,Spain,Portugal are sick man of the EU
dirty garbage cities , rubble houses , worn infrastructure , old cars , indebted economies

and millions of rich TURKS can afford 15.000€ for vacation ,, 15.000€ is nothing for millions of rich TURKS
even BMW 520 is €120.000 in Turkey and every year hundreds of thousands of luxury cars are sold in Turkey
Turkey has $2,1 trillion of GDP PPP ( 13th biggest economy in the World after Italy )

even Turkey lost over $1 trillion because of fighting Pkk terrorism since 1985 and military coups in Turkey

what about Italy ? nobody attack on Italy , still Italy has $2,3 trillion of GDP PPP
btw Italy has over $2 trillion of external debt , Turkey has only $440 billion of external debt



and over 80% of Turkish people dont want to join into EU


But hey, it could be worse. Our standard could be 8 times lower and we would reach the status of Turkey.

And you know whats the fun? I´m not a rich Italian. I´m middle class. :D Rich Italians afford something other. Turkey has a GDP of 850 billion. Which is patheticly small. Infact its 4 times smaller than Italy.
 
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We belong to 7 richest countries in the world. From September 12th to Octobre 9th im on a australia tour with my girl. How many turks can afford to spend 15.000€ for vacation?
Most Italians cant afford that either, that more than half a year salary of avarage Italian, you might impress others but not people in Europe.
 
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But hey, it could be worse. Our standard could be 8 times lower and we would reach the status of Turkey.

And you know whats the fun? I´m not a rich Italian. I´m middle class. :D Rich Italians afford something other. Turkey has a GDP of 850 billion. Which is patheticly small. Infact its 4 times smaller than Italy.


Turks earn TL , not Euro
and 15.000€ = 102.000 TL How many italians can afford to spend 102.000€ for vacation?

of course you are middle class. :D you can not afford to spend 102.000€ for vacation


1 dollar has risen to 6,9 TL from 2,8 TL in Turkey between 16.07.2016 and 16.08.2018

It's risen more than 245% in the past two years , because of the US,Israel,Germany,France backed Pkk/Ypg/FETO terrorist attacks on Turkey and Economic and Political War with the US




so Countries are sorted by Nominal GDP estimates from financial and statistical institutions, which are calculated at market or government official exchange rates Nominal GDP does not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the Country's currency

but GDP PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using International Market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita incom

GDP PPP by 2017 , 12. Italy $2,307 trillion and 13. TURKEY $2,132 trillion

Italy has over $2 trillion of external debt , Turkey has only $440 billion of external debt
 
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Most Italians cant afford that either, that more than half a year salary of avarage Italian, you might impress others but not people in Europe.


I have a net salary of 2250 € and no own rent to pay. Not too bad for one in his mid twentieth.
 
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