Turkey defense minister travelled to Russia today and met with Russia defense minister

[Tiberius]

Those threads are not opened to make members read your racist, biased, arrogant and fantasy posts regarding Turkey. If you want to troll right and left of this forum, You can do but I advice you to keep your sorrow mouth out of Turkey related thread. Your dreams and fantasies may sound good from your side but never reflect anything truths in real World and Noone wants to listen your off-topic moaning almost all threads regarding Turkey.

@waz look at this, its just as i have told you.

@cabatli_53 when i visited Turkey i was not impressed there. Infact it was way below what i consider my standards. You want force me to like it there or see an enemy nation positive? Thats kinda odd.

Maybe if we kick the Greeks out it'll be better for us

Who knows. You surely will need a new home once the Kurds have taken over. Considering their high birthrates they will be majority in 30 years.

 

[MMM-E]

The Ottoman empire was the arch enemy of the italian city states and enemyship never ends. Thats a simple fact.

in ww1 and ww2 Europeans killed eachothers ( millions of dead ) so what ? enemyship never ends

Turkey is a 3rd world country with very low living standards and civil war in its east. Ruanda is also growing and dynamic.

Did you ever visit Turkey? I did. In 2013. Izmir, Istanbul...dude it was pathetic there. Extreme poverty and not the standards i´m used to have.

There is no culture. Once you leave Ephesos you get swarmed by trash that wants sell you garbage.

You should teach your people that its not normal to constantly talk to someone who walks on a street. I dont want anyone speaking to me when i walk on a street. If i´m interested to buy something, i will speak to you. Not other way around.

And please care more about personal hygine. It smelled to extreme bad in that blue mosque building that i was almost throwing up.

List of countries by GDP (PPP) 2017
1 China $23,122 trillion
2 United States $19,362 trillion
3 India $9,446 trillion
4 Japan $5,405 trillion
5 Germany $4,149 trillion
6 Russia $4.000 trillion
7 Indonesia $3,242 trillion
8 Brazil $3,219 trillion
9 United Kingdom $2,880 trillion
10 France $2,826 trillion
11 Mexico $2,406 trillion
12 Italy $2,307 trillion
13 TURKEY $2,132 trillion
14 S.Korea $2.026 trillion
15 S Arabia 1.789 trillion


weaker economies like Greece, Portugal, Italy and Spain are sick man of the EU
EU Countries ( except Germany ) have no money to pay their trillions dollars of external debt



and you keep living in 100 years old garbage buildings in Italy with low living standarts
even Italy has no money for new projects

on the other hand Turkish Construction Industry is the 2nd in the World after China

-- Urban Renewal Project ( million of new buildings )
-- 4773 km Highway Project
-- 9978 km High-speed Rail line Project ( 2nd longest in the World after China )
-- 34 Integrated Healthcare Campuses
-- New Metro lines,,,,new Tunnels,,,.new Hospitals,, new Schools and Universties,,,,new Technology Centers,,,,new Theater and Convention Centers,,,new Museums,,,,new National Libraries,,,,new Stadiums,,, new Sport Centers,,,,new skyscrapers,etc


--- Istanbul New Airport is the biggest in the World with 200 million passenger capacity
--- Ankara ETLIK Integrated Healthcare Campus is the largest Hospital Complex in the World with 1.4 million m2
--- Canakkale 1915 Bridge is the longest suspension bridge in the World by its length of main span with 2,023 m
--- The Big Istanbul Tunnel is the only 3 storeyes underground Tunnel in the World
--- Manisa ZORLU City is the biggest Factory in EUROPE with 1.000.000 m2 area
--- Turkish Airlines was the best in EUROPE between 2011 and 2016 and Turkish Airlines buys 387 new Planes for $66 billion between 2013 and 2023


and I dont care about poor kurds in eastern Turkey ,

btw there is no civil war in Turkey ,
Turkish Armed Forces kill Pkk terrorists everywhere ( loser Pkk could not take even 1 cm2 of land from Turkey since 1985 )

your dream is over AFRIN city has fallen ,,,,,

 

[cabatli_53]

@waz look at this, its just as i have told you.

@cabatli_53 when i visited Turkey i was not impressed there. Infact it was way below what i consider my standards. You want force me to like it there or see an enemy nation positive? Thats kinda odd.

I have been in Italy many times and What I saw, also not impressed me. A country with below average standart, very old buildings. Nothing special in Italy, When compared with some other states I have been so what ?

What you told to any mod doesn't interest me. I will not allow a racist, arrogant like you to convert threads into off-topic flaming to bash Turkey...

 

[hussain0216]

Its no fear for Turks. The italian city states defated the ottoman empire. Infact the war led to the collapse of the ottomans and their demise in the end. But why let an former enemy in?

The ottomans were the super power of their age, they have seared their mark across the memory of Europeans, the deep seated fear is real

Yes sure. Italy blocks migrant ships, arrests NGO members and sells migrants to Libyan slavers. Inide Italy migrants get hunted. The youngest person that got shot on streets was a 14 months old nigerian girl. And its more evry day.

Then why do you keep moaning about ISIS or Erdogan trading with them.
ISIS did the same thing rape and butcher tens of thousands of christians and yazidis

If you want to emulate ISIS traits then why moan about them

Or why moan about a dictatorial Erdogan when you dream of politicians like him taking over Italy and Turkey and locking up liberals

 

[Attila the Hun]

Who knows. You surely will need a new home once the Kurds have taken over. Considering their high birthrates they will be majority in 30 years.

So, we have 30-years to prepare do we? So not anytime soon!!

 

[cabatli_53]

Subject: Turkey defense minister travelled to Russia today and met with Russia defense minister

What you are talking in here ? @Tiberius What is your aim with telling your impression when you have been in Turkey ? You do the same almost all threads you put your arrogant nose into.

 

[Tiberius]

The ottomans were the super power of their age, they have seared their mark across the memory of Europeans, the deep seated fear is real




Then why do you keep moaning about ISIS or Erdogan trading with them.
ISIS did the same thing rape and butcher tens of thousands of christians and yazidis

If you want to emulate ISIS traits then why moan about them

Or why moan about a dictatorial Erdogan when you dream of politicians like him taking over Italy and Turkey and locking up liberals

Do you think i care about the fate of christians in syria or iraq? Are they my people?

in ww1 and ww2 Europeans killed eachothers ( millions of dead ) so what ? enemyship never ends





List of countries by GDP (PPP) 2017
1 China $23,122 trillion
2 United States $19,362 trillion
3 India $9,446 trillion
4 Japan $5,405 trillion
5 Germany $4,149 trillion
6 Russia $4.000 trillion
7 Indonesia $3,242 trillion
8 Brazil $3,219 trillion
9 United Kingdom $2,880 trillion
10 France $2,826 trillion
11 Mexico $2,406 trillion
12 Italy $2,307 trillion
13 TURKEY $2,132 trillion
14 S.Korea $2.026 trillion
15 S Arabia 1.789 trillion


weaker economies like Greece, Portugal, Italy and Spain are sick man of the EU
EU Countries ( except Germany ) have no money to pay their trillions dollars of external debt



and you keep living in 100 years old garbage buildings in Italy with low living standarts
even Italy has no money for new projects

on the other hand Turkish Construction Industry is the 2nd in the World after China

-- Urban Renewal Project ( million of new buildings )
-- 4773 km Highway Project
-- 9978 km High-speed Rail line Project ( 2nd longest in the World after China )
-- 34 Integrated Healthcare Campuses
-- New Metro lines,,,,new Tunnels,,,.new Hospitals,, new Schools and Universties,,,,new Technology Centers,,,,new Theater and Convention Centers,,,new Museums,,,,new National Libraries,,,,new Stadiums,,, new Sport Centers,,,,new skyscrapers,etc


--- Istanbul New Airport is the biggest in the World with 200 million passenger capacity
--- Ankara ETLIK Integrated Healthcare Campus is the largest Hospital Complex in the World with 1.4 million m2
--- Canakkale 1915 Bridge is the longest suspension bridge in the World by its length of main span with 2,023 m
--- The Big Istanbul Tunnel is the only 3 storeyes underground Tunnel in the World
--- Manisa ZORLU City is the biggest Factory in EUROPE with 1.000.000 m2 area
--- Turkish Airlines was the best in EUROPE between 2011 and 2016 and Turkish Airlines buys 387 new Planes for $66 billion between 2013 and 2023


and I dont care about poor kurds in eastern Turkey ,

btw there is no civil war in Turkey ,
Turkish Armed Forces kill Pkk terrorists everywhere ( loser Pkk could not take even 1 cm2 of land from Turkey since 1985 )

your dream is over AFRIN city has fallen ,,,,,

fake. GDP of Turkey is only 851 billion €

https://tradingeconomics.com/turkey/gdp

It never reached one trillion. It was 950 billion in 2013 and since then shrinks. Italian GDP is 1.93 trillion.

https://tradingeconomics.com/italy/gdp

 

[MMM-E]

fake. GDP of Turkey is only 851 billion €

I am talking about GDP PPP

Countries are sorted by Nominal GDP estimates from financial and statistical institutions, which are calculated at market or government official exchange rates Nominal GDP does not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the Country's currency
but GDP PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using International Market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita incom

so GDP PPP by 2017 , 12. Italy $2,307 trillion and 13. TURKEY $2,132 trillion

Italy has over $2 trillion of external debt , Turkey has only $440 billion of external debt


1 dollar has risen to 6,9 TL from 2,8 TL in Turkey between 16.07.2016 and 16.08.2018

It's risen more than 245% in the past two years , because of the US,Israel,Germany,France backed Pkk/Ypg/FETO terrorist attacks on Turkey and Economic and Political War with the US

 

[Tiberius]

I have been in Italy many times and What I saw, also not impressed me. A country with below average standart, very old buildings. Nothing special in Italy, When compared with some other states I have been so what ?

What you told to any mod doesn't interest me. I will not allow a racist, arrogant like you to convert threads into off-topic flaming to bash Turkey...

Its a simple fact. You did not like to be in Italy? Thats fine. Dont come. We have too many tourists. I did not like Turkey and wont come as well again.

I believe both our countries profit much more if we stay in conflict.

So to come back at the topic. i applaud if Turkey breaks with NATO. A visit by the russian defense minister may speed this up. So lets pray this gets some results soon.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Its a simple fact. You did not like to be in Italy? Thats fine. Dont come. We have too many tourists. I did not like Turkey and wont come as well again.

I believe both our countries profit much more if we stay in conflict.

So to come back at the topic. i applaud if Turkey breaks with NATO. A visit by the russian defense minister may speed this up. So lets pray this gets some results soon.

NATO is not useful.

 

[hussain0216]

Do you think i care about the fate of christians in syria or iraq? Are they my people?

That makes two of us then

Its the same when ISIS or Taliban or whomever bomb somewhere

I couldn't care less, I don't condone it
But im not bothered about it even in the slightest

The world is turning right wing, you want Hitleresq facism in italy snd Europe so why would the hue and cry about fundamentalism

My view is Erdogan is doing right thing being right wing is the new normal
Facism for you is fundamentalism for right wing muslims and its the way the world is heading

 

[Tiberius]

I am talking about GDP PPP

Countries are sorted by Nominal GDP estimates from financial and statistical institutions, which are calculated at market or government official exchange rates Nominal GDP does not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the Country's currency
but GDP PPP takes into account the relative cost of local goods, services and inflation rates of the country, rather than using International Market exchange rates which may distort the real differences in per capita incom

so GDP PPP by 2017 12 Italy $2,307 trillion and 13 TURKEY $2,132 trillion


1 dollar has risen to 6,9 TL from 2,8 TL in Turkey between 16.07.2016 and 16.08.2018

It's risen more than 245% in the past two years , because of the US,Israel,Germany,France backed Pkk/Ypg/FETO terrorist attacks on Turkey and Economic and Political War with the US

Experts say once it falls below 10 the break even is reached an a venezuela style inflation starts. Trump announced he will install new sanctions.

 

[cabatli_53]

Its a simple fact. You did not like to be in Italy? Thats fine. Dont come. We have too many tourists. I did not like Turkey and wont come as well again.

I believe both our countries profit much more if we stay in conflict.

So to come back at the topic. i applaud if Turkey breaks with NATO. A visit by the russian defense minister may speed this up. So lets pray this gets some results soon.

Do you feel something important/special when you are typing those words ? You are nothing but a fanboy trolling right and left of this forum. You are neither political figure, nor a decision maker. When I need to visit a European country, say it touristic or business purposes, You are not even the latest hole of clarion to consult/take permission so I advice you again to care your own business (whatever you do in real life) instead of telling the people with your deep arrogance what they have to do or not regarding European matters.

 

[Tiberius]

That makes two of us then

Its the same when ISIS or Taliban or whomever bomb somewhere

I couldn't care less, I don't condone it
But im not bothered about it even in the slightest

The world is turning right wing, you want Hitleresq facism in italy snd Europe so why would the hue and cry about fundamentalism

My view is Erdogan is doing right thing being right wing is the new normal
Facism for you is fundamentalism for right wing muslims and its the way the world is heading

I think Erdogan is a good leader for Turkey and also for us. He gives an enormous opportunity for attacks and is a projection place for propaganda.

Our leader and interior ministers Salvini is similar.l He hates evrything non euroepan and calls non europeans "human meat". Hypernationalist, openly facist.

Its more honest politics and the best for the nations.

Do you feel something important/special when you are typing those words ? You are nothing but a fanboy trolling right and left of this forum. You are neither political figure, nor a decision maker. When I need to visit a European country, say it touristic or business purposes, You are not even the latest hole of clarion to consult/take permission so I advice you again to care your own business (whatever you do in real life) instead of telling the people what they have to do or not regarding European matters.

I´m leader of the Forza Italia youth group in our city Lucca. At least i have the power to hunt you out of our city.

 

[MMM-E]

Experts say once it falls below 10 the break even is reached an a venezuela style inflation starts. Trump announced he will install new sanctions.

100 years ago TURKS fought against british,french,greeks,armenians without food and weapons

and now TURKS have everything , new sanctions ? useless , nothing else