Traitors...

[rockstar08]

Because Saulat decided to make his statement now. There was nothing else to investigate before, his murder had been proven and he was on death row for it.

As for special treatment, look at him:
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He certainly doesn't look like he had any special treatment.

buddy you live in UK ... tomorrow do me a favor , go to a Court and ask a Profession Lawyer , that will they accept a Confession video of a terrorist ?
buddy its justice , not some Church to make confession , in the name of Father , son and holy ghost

 

[Bratva]

prey tell us what Wali Khan babar has done for the Nation ??
and i am yet to find who shot Hamid Mir , even though i dont like that guy

Was wali babur khan in cohorts with militants or foreign powers ? Like saleem shehzad ? So why MQM killed the journalist and all the innocent witnesses?

if you are going to do a comparison, at least dont make idiotic arguments or reasons

 

[rockstar08]

Was wali babur khan in cohorts with militants or foreign powers ? Like saleem shehzad ? So MQM killed the journalist and all the innocent witnesses?

if you are going to do a comparison, at least dont make idiotic arguments or reasons

i am not doing a comparison , A life is Life to me , be it a supporter of MQM or our soldier serving in Army ... Army Personal or journalist are not descend from heavens ? nor MQM supporters are from hell ... i am talking about if you have prove against the criminals of Wali khan murderers hang them ... still does not make the whole MQM a terrorist Party or traitors ..

 

[Secur]

So if MQM was peaceful, then who was terrorizing karachi before the start of Op cleanup ?

Why do you people miss the whole point of the thread? Where am I saying that MQM is angelic or peaceful? I don't, I have repeatedly condemned AH for his address as well as the party for their militant wing. Why do I have to explain it again and again? Is deviation from normal so intolerable that you would repeatedly misunderstand calls for equal treatment with support for a particular political party?

Selective posting I see. How many times Altaf hussain has talk about breaking the country ? 4,5,6 ? but army condemned his behaviour this time explicitly.

How many times Zulfi has talked about breaking pakistan ?

If we are having honest discussions, then be a man and don't do intellectual dishonesty or do twisting of facts.

Explicitly, only one and that was during his India visit and that was partition was a mistake, not something that I again agree with. All the other times, it has been that injustice and failure to give rights lead to division of country. Is ZM fine because he has said it only once somehow?

 

[TankMan]

buddy you live in UK

A relatively recent and temporary arrangement. The majority of my life was spent in Pakistan.

will they accept a Confession video of a terrorist ?

Yes, they will.
Admissibility of confessions
- Investigation - Enforcement Guide (England & Wales)
Confession and Breaches of Police and Criminal Evidence Act: Legal Guidance: The Crown Prosecution Service

They will consider the confession, investigate it if it is part of an existing case, and based on evidence etc they would decide if the confession is reliable or not.

 

[rockstar08]

A relatively recent and temporary arrangement. The majority of my life was spent in Pakistan.

Yes, they will.
Admissibility of confessions
- Investigation - Enforcement Guide (England & Wales)
Confession and Breaches of Police and Criminal Evidence Act: Legal Guidance: The Crown Prosecution Service

They will consider the confession, investigate it if it is part of an existing case, and based on evidence etc they would decide if the confession is reliable or not.

well i can post many confession videos here , convicting US , and other for War Crimes , no wonder there were no action taken against them ...
confession against Crown Prosecution seriously ?
a guy who will be meeting " Khaliq-e-Haqeeqi " in few days , and all of the sudden a Angel came to him with revelations , and he become a Saint ? and start confessing like a Parrot ? lol i can digest that mate ..

and guess what , his Death penalty was postponed third time , i wonder why people start confessing when they are close to meet their Lord ?

 

[Secur]

Sir jee the investigators were investigating the murder he committed. They solved the case. There was nothing else left to investigate.

What do you want from them, they should have tortured him to make him allege something so they could investigate it?

He made some allegations now and it is the allegations that are being investigated. The investigators could not have investigated the allegations before he made them. Come on.

Perhaps you aren't aware, but this statement-to-be against the political party he was affiliation to, was due for a long time. Why would they require to bend the rules to video-tape the confession is beyond me. Why now? And why in this manner? Why do something which hasn't been done before?

They usually do, they don't require anyone's permission. Have you never pondered over the reason how people accept the murders of 50-100-150-200 people, give complete and boastful confessions yet the target killing continues in the city?

 

[Bratva]

i am not doing a comparison , A life is Life to me , be it a supporter of MQM or our soldier serving in Army ... Army Personal or journalist are not descend from heavens ? nor MQM supporters are from hell ... i am talking about if you have prove against the criminals of Wali khan murderers hang them ... still does not make the whole MQM a terrorist Party or traitors ..

Just shows how much you know about the whole debacle or the punishment given to MQM sector workers. Shameful. What was the kasoor of wali babur khan that mqm has to give orders to kill him ?

Why do you people miss the whole point of the thread? Where am I saying that MQM is angelic or peaceful? I don't, I have repeatedly condemned AH for his address as well as the party for their militant wing. Why do I have to explain it again and again? Is deviation from normal so intolerable that you would repeatedly misunderstand calls for equal treatment with support for a particular political party?



Explicitly, only one and that was during his India visit and that was partition was a mistake, not something that I again agree with. All the other times, it has been that injustice and failure to give rights lead to division of country. Is ZM fine because he has said it only once somehow?

Does ZM has fan following and militant wing at it's disposal who could implement his word as fervently as AH followers ?

 

[rockstar08]

Just shows how much you know about the whole debacle or the punishment given to MQM sector workers. Shameful

does it matter if i know ? you seems to have much knowledge yet you failed to answer ..
all it matter in the end what is ground reality ... aye ?

Sir tell me what was the " Kasoor " of those MQM workers who were dead in Police custody ? and never make it to courts ? talking about Kasoor in Pakistan ... what an irony .. you dont need to be kasoor war in order to get kill buddy ... wake up and welcome to Pakistan

 

[Secur]

What was the kasoor of wali babur khan that mqm has to give orders to kill him ?

Does ZM has fan following and militant wing at it's disposal who could implement his word as fervently as AH followers ?

Hang the criminals who did it, be done with it. Whats the problem there?

Going in circles! How does it matter first of all? How is a traitor different from a traitor? And where's the support coming from? ZM is involved with many things for which there is ample proof but nobody cares right? It takes the name of MQM to wake up the masses and politicians, condemnation-calls for article 6 and resolutions follow soon after. For others, its just a slap on the wrist on virtue of their "blood status".

 

[TankMan]

well i can post many confession videos here , convicting US , and other for War Crimes , no wonder there were no action taken against them ...

If you submit it to the International Court of Justice, you might be able to have a case. But International cases are very different from regular civil cases and your example is irrelevant and like comparing watermelons to dates. If you made a confession video alleging that one particular person is involved in murder or extortion, it will be valid and investigated.

confession against Crown Prosecution seriously ?

Yes, seriously. That is the Crown Prosecution Services' policy statement from their official website. Read before making ignorant comments.

a guy who will be meeting " Khaliq-e-Haqeeqi " in few days , and all of the sudden a Angel came to him with revelations , and he become a Saint ? and start confessing like a Parrot ? lol i can digest that mate ..

He was going to be killed anyways and lost all hope of being freed. Had nothing to lose, so he decided to reveal what he knew. That's reasoning enough.

i wonder why people start confessing when they are close to meet their Lord ?

Human psychology, that's why.

 

[rockstar08]

If you submit it to the International Court of Justice, you might be able to have a case. But International cases are very different from regular civil cases and your example is irrelevant and like comparing watermelons to dates. If you made a confession video alleging that one particular person is involved in murder or extortion, it will be valid and investigated.

Yes, seriously. That is the Crown Prosecution Services' policy statement from their official website. Read before making ignorant comments.

yeah but what value a Criminal have ? you have a confession video of Adnan rasheed blaming Army for murderers of many in Tribal belt ? would you even like to see that video ? No cause that does not serve your Ego isnt ?
i see no Action against the Interview of UB , where he Openly Confess that ZM and Sindh Govt has given them arms to kill MQM workers ?
oh and i forget , what happen to those statements where Army Generals have called 92 Operation a fake .. but still no trail , no punishment buddy ? why /?

He was going to be killed anyways and lost all hope of being freed. Had nothing to lose, so he decided to reveal what he knew. That's reasoning enough.

lots of people reveled many things , but yet again we choose selective isnt it true ?

 

[Bratva]

does it matter if i know ? you seems to have much knowledge yet you failed to answer ..
all it matter in the end what is ground reality ... aye ?

Sir tell me what was the " Kasoor " of those MQM workers who were dead in Police custody ? and never make it to courts ? talking about Kasoor in Pakistan ... what an irony .. you dont need to be kasoor war in order to get kill buddy ... wake up and welcome to Pakistan

How killing of MQM workers relate to killing of a journalist by MQM workers ? I fail to answer because, it wont affect you, you are callous, and you would bring another one of your argument to deflect, shift, indireclty defend the killing of Babur walli khan. CPJ reports on Babur walli kahn was discussed here 2 years ago in month of june. Yo joined forum in spetember. So I'm not ready to believe you havent read those reports which were discussed to death. But instead you still want to play ignorant, then there is no use of arguing with a ignorant.

 

[TankMan]

Why would they require to bend the rules to video-tape the confession is beyond me. Why now? And why in this manner? Why do something which hasn't been done before?

So the issue is with the confession being videotaped? Well, as for why they videotaped it, your guess is as good as mine so it's pointless to argue over it.

people accept the murders of 50-100-150-200 people, give complete and boastful confessions yet the target killing continues in the city?

It was reduced greatly after the recent arrests.

 

[rockstar08]

How killing of MQM workers relate to killing of a journalist by MQM workers ? I fail to answer because, it wont affect you, you are callous, and you would bring another one of your argument to deflect, shift, indireclty defend the killing of Babur walli khan. CPJ reports on Babur walli kahn was discussed here 2 years ago in month of june. Yo joined forum in spetember. So I'm not ready to believe you havent read those reports which were discussed to death. But instead you still want to play ignorant, then there is no use of arguing with a ignorant.

no no You missed my point .. I said , you got the prove hang the killers ... no Argument .. but let me ask you that what was the Kasoor of Hamid mir and Saleem Shahzad ? who killed them ? where is the investigation stand ?
and how MQM criminals killing a journalist make the entire MQM a terrorist party ?