There are only 3 great powers in this world

[TriptiD]

Again, ranking does not mean much. India is a great power in many areas, no one is doubting that. But India, is by NO MEANS, as close to self sufficient as China, Russia or the United States (despite however they achieve it).

Russia is not comparable to the US or even China in terms of self-sufficiency. The US can manage while being in an economic war with both China and Russia and China can also get by if it is cut off from the US and Russia. However, Russia will collapse if China joins western sanctions against it. Russia does not have the agency to be an independent power.It is going to end up becoming a glorified client state of China unless there is a regime change.

 

[ST1976]

hardware: here, you people read news that CHinese engineers help Pakistani Projects, have you heard the same for India?
US's companies learn from India. India got progress without signing NPT since nuclear test 1974
here India helping development in Bhutan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Burma etc:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/22-0...ic-courses-preneet-kaur.777967/#post-14571490

here how Indian engineers help South Asian nations, as below

Lines of Credit for Development Projects

Development assistance in the form of concessional Lines of Credit (LOCs) is extended by the Government of India under the Indian Development and Economic Assistance Scheme (IDEAS) through the Exim Bank of India. In total 306 LOCs worth US$ 30.59 billion have been extended to 65 countries.. The projects under the LOCs cover critical infrastructure sectors such as transport connectivity through railways, roads and ports; power generation and distribution; agriculture and irrigation; manufacturing industries, healthcare, education and capacity building. So far about 322 LoC projects have been completed while 277 projects are under implementation.

Out of the total LOCs of US$ 30.59 billion, US$ 16.095 billion have been extended to Asian countries, with the largest value of commitments having been made in India’s immediate neighbourhood. LOCs worth US$ 7.862 billion have been extended to Bangladesh, US$ 2.129 billion to Sri Lanka, US$ 1.65 billion to Nepal, US$ 765 million to Mauritius, US$ 1.33 billion to Maldives, US$ 476 million to Myanmar and US$ 128 million to Seychelles.

There is a special focus on regional connectivity initiatives in the neighbourhood under GoI LOCs as these can act as force multipliers to accelerate regional growth & development, promote people-to-people contact and encourage trade and commerce. A total of 100 connectivity projects of around USD 7 billion have been taken up under LOCs in 4 countries in our neighbourhood, out of which 50 projects have already been completed. These include:

Bangladesh​

31 projects (13 already completed). 17 Rail (9 completed), 8 Road (3 completed), 5 Ports/Shipping (1 completed), 1 Airport. Apart from this, there are 3 Power Transmission Line projects and 1 Telecom project. The Power transmission lines for Power Evacuation facilities for the first Nuclear Power Plant of Bangladesh in Rooppur worth US$ 1 billion are also being implemented under GoI LOC extended to Bangladesh.

Nepal​

46 Road projects (22 already completed). Apart from this there are 4 Power Transmission Line Projects (1 completed). These road projects in various parts of Nepal will increase internal connectivity and will help improve transportation linkages with India.

Sri Lanka​

19 projects (12 already completed). 16 Rail (10 completed), 2 Road (2 completed) and 1 Port project. Reconstruction of Sri Lankan Railways after the civil war has been done primarily through GoI LOCs.

Myanmar​

4 projects (3 already completed). 3 Rail (2 completed), 1 Road (1 completed). Apart from this, there are 3 Power Transmission (3 completed) and 2 Telecom projects (2 completed).

India has completed numerous iconic infrastructure projects in partner countries under the Lines of Credit. Some of these iconic projects include the Parliament Building of Gambia, the Presidential Palace in Ghana, the Kosti Power project in Sudan which provides 1/3rd of the country’s power, the Nyaborongo Power Project in Rwanda which provides 1/4th of the country’s power, Railway Bridges and Signalling Systems in Bangladesh, the post-war rebuilding of the Sri Lankan Railways etc. India is building the first Oil Refinery of Mongolia under LOC at a cost of USD 1.24 billion which will provide critical energy security to this landlocked country. India has set up the first ever industrial units in many countries like the first Cement Plant of Djibouti, the first Milk Processing Plant of Mauritania, the first Sugar Factory of Ghana etc. The Upper Ruvu Water Treatment Plant in Tanzania provides clean drinking water to more than 2 million people in the Dar es Salaam area. LoCs have also been extended in many new sectors like defence and solar energy.

Lines of Credit for Development Projects

Lines of Credit for Development Projects

www.mea.gov.in

Russia is not comparable to the US or even China in terms of self-sufficiency. The US can manage while being in an economic war with both China and Russia and China can also get by if it is cut off from the US and Russia. However, Russia will collapse if China joins western sanctions against it. Russia does not have the agency to be an independent power.It is going to end up becoming a glorified client state of China unless there is a regime change.

since Cold War time, we find India-Russia combined overweight US in having a 'total' dependence on ourselves/in terms of self-sufficiency.
here, Indian engineers help Russia more than what Russia contribute in India

 

[nahtanbob]

3.) Russia - A somewhat political superpower, economic superpower, influential superpower, landsize hyperpower (Borders all the way from Japan to Norway, the size of Russia is as big as Pluto and this allows it to span the artic, to Europe, to the Korean peninsula, also has bases over seas like the US), Military Superpower (only other nation aside from the US to possess massive of nuclear weapons with ICBMs, capable of destroying cities in a blink), UN Veto superpower, somewhat logistical capabilities, population superpower (but not as much as the above two), not-so-much an educations superpower but it has its soviet era history, Proxy warfare hyperpower, Oil superpower.

Russia is a giant gas station owned by oligarchs.

Russia military innovation has been close to zero post Cold War.

Russian military industrial base has been declining slowly

Educated Russians have been migrating. The population is stagnant.

 

[ST1976]

Russia is a giant gas station owned by oligarchs.

Russia military innovation has been close to zero post Cold War.

Russian military industrial base has been declining slowly

Educated Russians have been migrating. The population is stagnant.

we find India-Russia combined power increased consistently since 1990

 

[ST1976]

This thread is so stupid.

How can BRICS challenge the West as long as China and India are enemies?

Kick out India for Pakistan in BRICS

no mate, India-China more co-operate with each others. we have Russia in middle who share information between India & China....
with help of allies like Russia- Iran, India and China are having more a sense of 'together'

 

[Indos]

Top 20 Muslim countries nominal GDP is 8.3 trillion USD in 2023. Population without Muslim Indians are 1.7 billion people.

 

[nahtanbob]

we find India-Russia conbined power increased consistantly since 1990

have no idea what you are talking

 

[ST1976]

Top 20 Muslim countries nominal GDP is 8.3 trillion USD in 2023. Population without Muslim Indians are 1.7 billion people.

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SA was promised expansion of BRICS. SA is now altogether with Egypt, Iran, UAE, with hopefully Kazakhstan, Algeria, Bangladesh in future expansion of brics. now SA is expected to lead these countries as "one Islamic face" and hopefully exceeding I & R of brics in future

 

[retaxis]

US is still the only superpower in the world mainly because it spends so much on its military (3.5% of gdp while China spends 1.3%). US also has very broad cultural reach compared to China as well. China meanwhile likes to take a backseat and watch it all unfold rather than sticking its finger into the trap and getting bit. China will be a superpower in military, economic and cultural terms in the next 10 years but China will never do what the US likes to do and that is act like world police

 

[KAL-EL]

Russia is not comparable to the US or even China in terms of self-sufficiency. The US can manage while being in an economic war with both China and Russia and China can also get by if it is cut off from the US and Russia. However, Russia will collapse if China joins western sanctions against it. Russia does not have the agency to be an independent power.It is going to end up becoming a glorified client state of China unless there is a regime change.

Seems like it's already a major Junior partner to China and Well on its way to be a glorified client state

Of course Putin would never say it out loud, but I bet he's probably seething over a privately

 

[REhorror]

This great power crap is overrated.
As long as the US is defeated as the unipower global power, anything is fine.

The US's culture is unnatural and is destroying the world's actual culture.

 

[Menthol]

In the past there were 2 superpowers.

But according to the prophecy there should be 3 superpowers.

The rise of China is fulfilling the prophecy.

 

[Han Patriot]

US is not currently using nuclear weapons against anyone. And no first use can always change.

And btw, I also think the US should have no first use policy. To only respond to a nuclear attack with overwhelming Force

Yes, tell that to the aggressive US, it is US killing hundreds of thousand accross the globe and stirring shit. So don't lecture China. We already openly declare no first use.

This great power crap is overrated.
As long as the US is defeated as the unipower global power, anything is fine.

The US's culture is unnatural and is destroying the world's actual culture.

They are forcing LGBTQ++++++ on the world.

 

[KAL-EL]

Yes, tell that to the aggressive US, it is US killing hundreds of thousand accross the globe and stirring shit. So don't lecture China. We already openly declare no first use

Stop being bellicose and bullying your neighbors before you lecture others on anything

 

[Viet]

Well, according to this China hawk/hater, the US is still the number one with China being closely followed as the second, and Russia being a distant third one.

Russia is the weakest among the 3 superpowers, that's why the US needs to bring Russia on its side to against China who is a peer competitor.

The US wants to 100% focus on China, and don't want to get stuck with Ukraine and Middle East. Otherwise, it will be too late for the last window of opportunity, and China will surpass the US within a couple of years.

The Middle East is still vacant of a superpower, that's why it is a playground for everyone.

Obama said years ago Russia is a regional power. Still valid. Ukraine has decimated much of Russia military potentials. Russia market in Europe is dead. Putin can only sell oil and gas cheap and cheaper to China and India, at much lower prices than he previously sold to Europe.