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There are only 3 great powers in this world

so no india?..

It looks like he puts the US as 100, and China looks something like 95, Russia as a distant 75.

As for the others nations, all below 50, and no one is qualified as a superpower (great power in his term).
 
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Well, according to this China hawk/hater, the US is still the number one with China being closely followed as the second, and Russia being a distant third one.

Russia is the weakest among the 3 superpowers, that's why the US needs to bring Russia on its side to against China who is a peer competitor.

The US wants to 100% focus on China, and don't want to get stuck with Ukraine and Middle East. Otherwise, it will be too late for the last window of opportunity, and China will surpass the US within a couple of years.

The Middle East is still vacant of a superpower, that's why it is a playground for everyone.



How you people see India, ranked as below: :coffee:

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Largest economies in the world by PPP GDP in 2023
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=> India is listed in NICs as below also: :-)

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=> Military strength comparison with India and US, China, Russia as below:
 
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How you people see India, ranked as below: :coffee:

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Largest economies in the world by PPP GDP in 2023
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=> India is listed in NICs as below also: :-)

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=> Military strength comparison with India and US, China, Russia as below:

Economies =/= superpower. It's also how one manages the economy and the strength of its independent power capabilities.

China and Russia are independent from western powers, militaries, hardware, satellites, etc. India relies on western powers. It still buys from France and Israel and has old antique weapons. India also had to apologize to Qatar and fire the Indian lady politician for insulting Islam. China & Russia don't fire anyone over what USA says, let alone Qatar.
 
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How you people see India, ranked as below: :coffee:

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Largest economies in the world by PPP GDP in 2023
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=> India is listed in NICs as below also: :-)

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=> Military strength comparison with India and US, China, Russia as below:

I think the old man has these benchmarks in his head.

Who has the nuclear MAD capability with the US? China and Russia

Who can survive the absolute technological sanction from the US? China is fine right now from the semiconductor to jet engine to space program to software. And Russia is also fine in most areas except they are struggling a bit more on the semiconductor domain.
 
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I think the old man has these benchmarks in his head.

Who has the nuclear MAD capability with the US? China and Russia

Who can survive the absolute technological sanction from the US? China is fine right now from the semiconductor to jet engine to space program to software. And Russia is also fine in most areas except they are struggling a bit more for the semiconductor domain.


And the US has MAD capability with Russia and China
 
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At around 24:15 he begins speaking about "Greater Israel" and how there would be roughly the same amount of Palestinians and Israeli citizens in the "Greater Israel" territory. He then goes on talking about the demographics in that state and how Palestinians would outnumber them, and, in disguised means, points out that Israel is allowed to commit a genocide because Israel is a "Jewish state".
 
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Economies =/= superpower. It's also how one manages the economy and the strength of its independent power capabilities.

China and Russia are independent from western powers, militaries, hardware, satellites, etc. India relies on western powers. It still buys from France and Israel and has old antique weapons. India also had to apologize to Qatar and fire the Indian lady politician for insulting Islam. China & Russia don't fire anyone over what USA says, let alone Qatar.

India is ranked on 4th position in Space research and 4th ranked military power, as below:-

military strenght:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/40-c...ary-expenditure-in-2022.777764/#post-14563854

space research:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/newly-industrialized-countries-current.778013/#post-14577386

nuclear power:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/newly-industrialized-countries-current.778013/page-2#post-14578637

hardware: here, you people read news that CHinese engineers help Pakistani Projects, have you heard the same for India? :what:
US's companies learn from India. India got progress without signing NPT since nuclear test 1974
here India helping development in Bhutan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Burma etc:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/22-0...ic-courses-preneet-kaur.777967/#post-14571490
 
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And the US has MAD capability with Russia and China

Having the MAD capability with the US is one of those benchmarks to be a superpower.

The other one is to be able to withstand against the onslaught from the US economic/technological sanctions.
 
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And the US has MAD capability with Russia and China

That's what MAD means. Mutually assured destruction. Only those three countries can destroy any other country, other than the other two, without being destroyed in return.
 
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India is ranked on 4th position in Space research and 4th ranked military power, as below:-

military strenght:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/40-c...ary-expenditure-in-2022.777764/#post-14563854

space research:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/newly-industrialized-countries-current.778013/#post-14577386

nuclear power:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/newly-industrialized-countries-current.778013/page-2#post-14578637

hardware: here, you people read news that CHinese engineers help Pakistani Projects, have you heard the same for India? :what:
US's companies learn from India. India got progress without signing NPT since nuclear test 1974
here India helping development in Bhutan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Burma etc:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/22-0...ic-courses-preneet-kaur.777967/#post-14571490

Again, ranking does not mean much. India is a great power in many areas, no one is doubting that. But India, is by NO MEANS, as close to self sufficient as China, Russia or the United States (despite however they achieve it).
 
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Well of course it's mutually assured destruction. I never said otherwise.

Just remember, if you launch a first strike you won't survive either
What about 'NO FIRST USE', do you not understand? US is the one killing people globally and instigating wars, it is not China.
 
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At around 24:15 he begins speaking about "Greater Israel" and how there would be roughly the same amount of Palestinians and Israeli citizens in the "Greater Israel" territory. He then goes on talking about the demographics in that state and how Palestinians would outnumber them, and, in disguised means, points out that Israel is allowed to commit a genocide because Israel is a "Jewish state".

He believes that Israel always wants the US to help them to rebuild the Great Israel, but the US don't have this mood as the competition with China has already depleted all of its energy.

The US is not omnipotent, and Israel has simply asked too much.
 
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What about 'NO FIRST USE', do you not understand? US is the one killing people globally and instigating wars, it is not China.

US is not currently using nuclear weapons against anyone. And no first use can always change.

And btw, I also think the US should have no first use policy. To only respond to a nuclear attack with overwhelming Force
 
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India is ranked on 4th position in Space research and 4th ranked military power, as below:-

military strenght:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/40-c...ary-expenditure-in-2022.777764/#post-14563854

space research:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/newly-industrialized-countries-current.778013/#post-14577386

nuclear power:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/newly-industrialized-countries-current.778013/page-2#post-14578637

hardware: here, you people read news that CHinese engineers help Pakistani Projects, have you heard the same for India? :what:
US's companies learn from India. India got progress without signing NPT since nuclear test 1974
here India helping development in Bhutan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Burma etc:- https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/22-0...ic-courses-preneet-kaur.777967/#post-14571490
Dude Stop, you don't understand what it means to be a superpower.
being a superpower means being able to exert control and influence on far away nations by various means like Military, Economy, Geopolitics, and other unconventional sort of substantial leverages like Weapons, Media, Technological Advancements etc.
And India isn't powerful enough in any of those means.
 
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Dude Stop, you don't understand what it means to be a superpower.
being a superpower means being able to exert control and influence on far away nations by various means like Military, Economy, Geopolitics, and other unconventional sort of substantial leverages like Weapons, Media, Technological Advancements etc.
And India isn't powerful enough in any of those means.

"India got progress without signing NPT since nuclear test 1974."

we hear news that Chinese engineers help Pakistan-ASEAN etc. here, have you heard the same for India? :a complete dependence on itself, is means for India. India help Russia maintain industries to an extent. its India who help Russian industries more than what Russia contribute in India....
here we find Indian engineers helping Bhutan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma in development, post below :-)

India formed Non Aligned Movement, can China do the same on its own? India-Soviet Union could help China get a 'balanced' world. China got the world which has been 'balanced' by India-SU-Russia. a news as below:

India, not China, best suited to lead developing world: Indian FM
  • Citing economic and other aid New Delhi has given, foreign minister says country’s goals make it ‘different from all those whose rise preceded ours’
  • But India treads narrow path with West over friendly ties with Russia and Ottawa’s allegations that New Delhi was involved in a Canadian’s killing

Khushboo Razdanin New York

Published: 3:10am, 27 Sep, 2023

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Subrahmanyam Jaishankar, India’s foreign minister, speaks during the United Nations General Assembly in New York on Tuesday. Photo: Bloomberg

India has staked a claim as the leading voice of the developing world in an “emerging multipolar order”, casting itself at the United Nations General Assembly as a better fit for the role than other regional powers like China.

Addressing the general assembly in New York on Tuesday, Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar cited Sri Lanka’s economic downturn, which India and many Western countries and their allies have blamed on Beijing’s “debt diplomacy”.

“When Sri Lanka experienced a severe economic crisis, it was India that first stepped forward,” India’s top diplomat said.

Even in distant regions, partners like the Pacific island nations “have appreciated our contributions to meet their needs in health, in technology and in climate action”, he added.

Jaishankar said “so many nations” identified with India because of its history, geography and culture. As an aspiring leading power, India had “never been seen as being in contradiction with global good”.

“This is not for self-aggrandisement, but to take on greater responsibility and make more contributions,” he added. “The goals we have set for ourselves will make us different from all those whose rise preceded ours.”

At a time when “East-West polarisation is so sharp and the North-South divide so deep”, the success of the Group of 20 summit held recently in New Delhi proved India targeted “the key concerns of the many, not just the narrow interests of a few”, he said.

With its expanding diplomatic and economic clout globally as tensions between the US and China remain undimmed, India sees the present moment as ideal for becoming a leader of the Global South – a role China also prizes.

“China opposes hegemonism, power politics, unilateralism and Cold War mentality,” Vice-President Han Zheng said.

“A small number of countries have arbitrarily imposed illegal and unilateral sanctions, severely undermining the harmony and stability of international relations,” he added. “The international community should jointly resist such acts.”

The sentiment was echoed by Chinese President Xi Jinping at the World Political Parties Summit in Beijing in March, during which he offered to share his country’s experiences in modernisation with other countries.

China’s Communist Party is willing to exchange and share experience with political parties of all countries … so we can do more good for our people and people around the world,” Xi said.

To counter China’s more prominent regional and global stature, New Delhi has drawn closer to and cooperates often with the West, especially Washington.

Yet it treads a narrow path with the West, given its friendly ties with Russia and amid recent allegations of New Delhi’s involvement in the killing of an Indian dissident in Canada.

“The power of markets should not be utilised to steer food and energy from the needy to the wealthy, nor must we countenance that political convenience determines responses to terrorism, extremism and violence,” Jaishankar said in a veiled swipe at the West and Ottawa.

“Respect for territorial integrity and non-interference in internal affairs cannot be exercises in cherry-picking,” he continued. “Without genuine solidarity, there can never be real trust. This is very much the sentiment of the Global South.”

Jaishankar, who is expected to visit Washington on Wednesday for a meeting with his American counterpart, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, warned that the norm of a few nations shaping the agenda “cannot go indefinitely, nor will it go unchallenged”.

“A fair, equitable and democratic order will surely emerge once we all put our minds to it … that means ensuring that rule makers do not subjugate rule takers”.

 
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