The Saudi Conflict

[Syrian Lion]

are there hands clean from muslims >>> u should read history or should i remind u what were they doing in the past

Now you care about Islam? where were you the when the Quran was burnt in Afghanistan and Mosques were destroyed in Bahrain by Saudi Forces? or what about Masjad Ala'aqsa, your country have done nothing to Palestine, and should i mention Kashmir ?

 

[longbrained]

As I mentioned in a previous post, Pakistan Army decided to bring in terror by itself as a strategic tool and this Army is still the biggest sponsor of the same forces, so why blame the Saudi's. Are you Shia by any chance, just curious.

I think you cannot speak for 180 million Pakistani's and most Pakistani's may have different view about Saudi Arabia.

Your post is pathetic and anti-Pakistan. The truth is Pakistan army is the guardian of the nation and they are doing their best to protect Pakistan. It is the traitor Saudi regime that is sending terror and this has been confirmed by our intel services report to government of Pakistan published in newspapers.

As for your pathetic sectarian and Saudi minded curiosity, I am a Sunni Pakistani. So bug off.

I can speak for majority of Pakistanis since I am one. On the other hand you are not anymore a Pakistani so again bug off.

 

[kalu_miah]

Your post is pathetic and anti-Pakistan. The truth is Pakistan army is the guardian of the nation and they are doing their best to protect Pakistan. It is the traitor Saudi regime that is sending terror and this has been confirmed by our intel services report to government of Pakistan published in newspapers.

As for your pathetic sectarian and Saudi minded curiosity, I am a Sunni Pakistani. So bug off.

I can speak for majority of Pakistanis since I am one. On the other hand you are not anymore a Pakistani so again bug off.

That is the Army propaganda that they want people like you to believe. Who are you to ask me to bugg off? Anyone can participate in a discussion if they want, or is that illegal in this forum? If you don't like my questions, you are free to ignore them.

 

[longbrained]

That is the Army propaganda that they want people like you to believe. Who are you to ask me to bugg off? Anyone can participate in a discussion if they want, or is that illegal in this forum? If you don't like my questions, you are free to ignore them.

If you want to flame sectarian tensions, then yeah, it is in my right to say that to you. This forum is not a fascist forum. Army propaganda? What does that suppose to mean. Pakistan army is a professional one and they know their job. Your comment is anti-Pakistan laced with racism. Shame on you.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

yeah of cours. i will stick here man posting video with you

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protest in saudi arabia >>>

guy knows how to role in style!


the combined value of the luxury cars and SUVs in that convoy would be enough to feed half of Somalia

 

[funtoosh]

pakistanis are hypocrites in this regard. they crib about forign occupation when america comes to afg. But they themselves send their forces to bahrain and kill local shias when they have no business being there

 

[longbrained]

guy knows how to role in style!


the combined value of the luxury cars and SUVs in that convoy would be enough to feed half of Somalia

Style is one thing. But as per Islam when humans as well as Muslims around the world are hungry it is haram to rule in this way. Our Khulfa e Rashidin did not rule with style. They ruled on principles. These guys are not Islamic one bit. They enjoy in casinos and clubs of Europe and then export terror in the name of Islam.

 

[Arabian Legend]

That is a misconception. Alot of countries gave oil to Pakistan for deferred payment and not for free, one of them was Saudi Arabia. Others like Kuwait, Oman and Iran also gave oil to Pakistan so do not try to put it in our face. We paid you in full for that "help". As for financing our program, that is another big lie. The only guy who had given money specifically for Pakistan nuke program was Qaddafi and he is dead now and if you disagree then bring up the receipts or just keep your mouth shut. Whatever Saudi regime has given to Pakistan, they have taken back with interest, whether when we fought your wars, protected your regime or when you ruined Pakistan's economy by your suicide bombers. So it is time for the truth to lay bare. Do not bring this again to our face that we are in any way indebted to you. And yeah, you can never bomb us so stop threatening to do so, since then your regime will be gone and replaced by democracy and the name of the country changed back to Hijaz.

wither you like it or not that is the truth u can deny it

here is a quote from wiki and if u want more info u may find it through google >>> thats is fact


Historically, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have extremely cordial relations which sometimes attributed as special relationship.[6] Many in Pakistan's political scientists and historians have summed up that Saudi interests in nuclear technology began in 1970s after Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto introduced Pakistan's leading theoretical physicists (who went on to join the King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals), and took the discussion where Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto pointed out the advancements made in the Israeli and the Indian nuclear programme to intimidate the Muslim world, with the Saudi royal government in 1974 after the royal family paid a visit to Pakistan in 1974, as part of 2nd OIC conference, Lahore.[6]
It is widely believed that Saudi Arabia has been a sole financier of Pakistan's own integrated atomic bomb project since 1974, a programme founded by former prime minister Zulfi Bhutto.[6][7] In 1980s, President General Zia-ul-Haq paid a state visit to Saudi Arabia where he unofficially told the King that: "Our achievements are yours".[6] This cooperation was allegedly enhanced by socialist prime minister Benazir Bhutto in 1995 and in 1998, the conservative Prime minister Nawaz Sharif took Saudi Arabia in confidence before ordering the nuclear tests (see the codenames Chagai-I and Chagai-II) in Weapon-testing labs-III (WTL) in Chagai remote site in Balochistan Province of Pakistan.[6] In June 1998, the Prime minister paid a farewell visit to King Fahd and publicly thanked Saudi government for supporting the country after conducting the tests.[6] Soon, the Saudi Minister of Defense Prince Sultan traveled with the Prime minister Sharif where he toured a classified institute, the Kahuta Research Laboratories (KRL) where the leading scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan briefed the Prince and the Prime minister Sharif also, on nuclear physics and the sensitive issues involving the weapon-grade explosives.[6]

 

[longbrained]

wither you like it or not that is the truth u can deny it

here is a quote from wiki and if u want more info u may find it through google >>> thats is fact


Historically, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have extremely cordial relations which sometimes attributed as special relationship.[6] Many in Pakistan's political scientists and historians have summed up that Saudi interests in nuclear technology began in 1970s after Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto introduced Pakistan's leading theoretical physicists (who went on to join the King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals), and took the discussion where Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto pointed out the advancements made in the Israeli and the Indian nuclear programme to intimidate the Muslim world, with the Saudi royal government in 1974 after the royal family paid a visit to Pakistan in 1974, as part of 2nd OIC conference, Lahore.[6]
It is widely believed that Saudi Arabia has been a sole financier of Pakistan's own integrated atomic bomb project since 1974, a programme founded by former prime minister Zulfi Bhutto.[6][7] In 1980s, President General Zia-ul-Haq paid a state visit to Saudi Arabia where he unofficially told the King that: "Our achievements are yours".[6] This cooperation was allegedly enhanced by socialist prime minister Benazir Bhutto in 1995 and in 1998, the conservative Prime minister Nawaz Sharif took Saudi Arabia in confidence before ordering the nuclear tests (see the codenames Chagai-I and Chagai-II) in Weapon-testing labs-III (WTL) in Chagai remote site in Balochistan Province of Pakistan.[6] In June 1998, the Prime minister paid a farewell visit to King Fahd and publicly thanked Saudi government for supporting the country after conducting the tests.[6] Soon, the Saudi Minister of Defense Prince Sultan traveled with the Prime minister Sharif where he toured a classified institute, the Kahuta Research Laboratories (KRL) where the leading scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan briefed the Prince and the Prime minister Sharif also, on nuclear physics and the sensitive issues involving the weapon-grade explosives.[6]

It is all speculation and nothing of substance that can be proved. Atomic bombs are not made of paper money. They are made of technology. If it was made of paper money then you should go and build some for yourself. A few comments above you threatened to bomb Pakistan. Is this the "special relationship"? Lol. The truth is Saudi regime is fascist one that only cares about itself and not about Pakistan. As I pointed out above, do you have the receipts of the payments you made? I guess not. So I do not accept your imagination and wikipedia which can be edited by any one. Nukes are not candies or your fancy cars that you can buy. They are technological magic boxes and are not for sale.

 

[Syrian Lion]

@The Legend

Stop threatening and saying we can bomb nations, you guys have nice toys but no brains. Unfortunately money cant buy brains.

 

[kalu_miah]

If you want to flame sectarian tensions, then yeah, it is in my right to say that to you. This forum is not a fascist forum. Army propaganda? What does that suppose to mean. Pakistan army is a professional one and they know their job. Your comment is anti-Pakistan laced with racism. Shame on you.

I am entitled to my views on Pakistan Army and you are entitled to yours. I am always for the people of Pakistan, because they are a brotherly Muslim nation, despite the problems in the past (1947-1971) which was created by some in the leadership, but we both have moved on as nations. I happen to believe that Pakistan Army by not letting democracy take foot hold in the country since 1947 and also since 1971 did great disservice to the people of Pakistan and by controlling the politics, still are causing problems for the country.

Where do see racism in this?

I asked the question about sect, because I could not understand how you could support Assad in this current situation in Syria, where the whole world knows who is the aggressor and who is the victim. Close to 12,000 human beings lost their lives and you seem to not care?

For your information, I have nothing against Shia, one of my good friend is Iranian Shia.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I always support democracy and more power for the people, so any kind of monarchy is not good. But as long as they are not killing their own people like Qadhafi or Assad, by unleashing their fully equipped armed forces on their own people, I have to take their word that they will reform in time and usher in more democracy and keep on taking good care of their people till they fully democratize. And when they support arming the Syrian opposition to protect against this ongoing inhuman slaughter, they have my unquestionable support, as a Muslim and a human being I am obligated to reject and resist oppression where ever I see it and I believe my countrymen are also with me on this. And from reliable sources, I heard that a majority of Pakistani people are supporting the Saudi's effort to counter the Syrian regime's inhuman treatments of its people.

I know that the Saudi Salafi ideology has caused problems for Pakistan, but for that you have to blame Pakistan Army led govt.'s decision to be used as a pawn and cannon fodder for the US, to contain the Soviet expansion. If Pakistan govt. did not pursue this strategy then Saudi ideology would have no way to find an entry into this region. So Pakistan govt. and leadership is mainly responsible for this bad decision. That is how I see it, but I could be wrong of course as I have little on the ground experience.

Though OT, my suggestion is to reduce influence of Pakistan armed forces in Pakistan politics and strengthen civil society. The empowerment of people and giving them voice in a new Pakistani spring and then the spilling over effect of this democratization to Afghanistan may remove instability from the region. When people do not have a voice in running their affair in the existing system, they use religion as a tool to organize and create an alternate voice for themselves.

did anyone ask you to spend your time posting drivel?

no need for you to worry about our affairs, mind your own business kiddo

 

[Syrian Lion]

I am entitled to my views on Pakistan Army and you are entitled to yours. I am always for the people of Pakistan, because they are a brotherly Muslim nation, despite the problems in the past (1947-1971) which was created by some in the leadership, but we both have moved on as nations. I happen to believe that Pakistan Army by not letting democracy take foot hold in the country since 1947 and also since 1971 did great disservice to the people of Pakistan and by controlling the politics, still are causing problems for the country.

Where do see racism in this?

I asked the question about sect, because I could not understand how you could support Assad in this current situation in Syria, where the whole world knows who is the aggressor and who is the victim. Close to 12,000 human beings lost their lives and you seem to not care?

1. there is a topic for Syria, please feel free to talk there leaving your racist brain behind.
2. Alasad followed the people's order of ending terrorism
3. Most Syrians ( I will say 80% support Alasad)
4.Syrians Rally - YouTube
5. You are RACIST.

 

[Arabian Legend]

Now you care about Islam? where were you the when the Quran was burnt in Afghanistan and Mosques were destroyed in Bahrain by Saudi Forces? or what about Masjad Ala'aqsa, your country have done nothing to Palestine, and should i mention Kashmir ?

my country has fought in 73 and 76 but ur Assad who betrayed the arab in the 1976 and stood up by israel at that time plus that he gave the golan to them
we have been supporting to PA since ever and all PA know that you may ask them if u want but alkhomainis media who are feeding ur mind won't let u now the truth > if u wanna know its simple > google and see what my country is doing to PA
btw where were ma nigga when the things u mentioned in ur post happened getting high in the US

 

[Arabian Legend]

1. there is a topic for Syria, please feel free to talk there leaving your racist brain behind.
2. Alasad followed the people's order of ending terrorism
3. Most Syrians ( I will say 80% support Alasad)
4.Syrians Rally - YouTube
5. You are RACIST.

now speaking the truth is racism >> Kalu Miah do not go anywhere ur welcome in this topic and if u don't like live with it