The incredibly bloody Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam

[war&peace]

Why don't you tell me a good holiday destination?

Go to Pakistan...I am soon coming with my friends and have fun..

 

[El Sidd]

Go to Pakistan...I am soon coming with my friends and have fun..

Oh i am allowed one vacation outside Pakistan.

Murree has become too political lol

 

[war&peace]

Oh i am allowed one vacation outside Pakistan.

Murree has become too political lol

What are you interests...Go to Macchu Picchu in Peru.. or Paradise in Papua Bew Guinea..Rain forest of Malaysia can be of interest ...or Salzburg Austria..a nice place to relaxe ...depends on what you want...I normally like places where there are not a lot people... so now I don't like Murree much but my grandfather had a summer house there in Muree (Cecil Murree)

 

[El Sidd]

What are you interests...Go to Macchu Picchu .. or Paradise in Papua Bew Guinea..Rain forest of Malaysia can be of interest ...or Salzburg Austria..a nice place to relaxe ...depends on what you want...I normally like places where there are not a lot people... so now I don't like Murree much but my grandfather had a summer house there in Muree (Cecil Murree)

Is that why you living in Scandinavia?

 

[war&peace]

Is that why you living in Scandinavia?

Well, the main reason is the business but perhaps that was somewhere in my subconscious mind that helped me choose this place instead of London or Berlin.

 

[El Sidd]

Well, the main reason is the business but perhaps that was somewhere in my subconscious mind that helped me choose this place instead of London or Berlin.

Interesting...
Hmm is the economy doing well there?

 

[war&peace]

Interesting...
Hmm is the economy doing well there?

Scandinavia has a pretty stable economy and mostly euro level crisis are less pronounced since they have their own currencies...
Like most developed countries, the growth rate is low but positive and stable.

 

[El Sidd]

Scandinavia has a pretty stable economy and mostly euro level crisis are less pronounced since they have their own currencies...
Like most developed countries, the growth rate is low but positive and stable.

Sounds like a good policy having the own currency but that hampers growth in such a close knit network.

But politically i guess it was a masterstroke of chance

 

[war&peace]

Sounds like a good policy having the own currency but that hampers growth in such a close knit network.

But politically i guess it was a masterstroke of chance

Yeah they are clever people and joined EU under conditions and thus they are not needed to join the Eurozone. But all other policies and regulations are applicable. UK also kept its own currency though it is exiting the EU. However the countries that are already part of the eurozone, they will face a lot of difficulties if they decide to leave euro and introduce their own currencies.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Will Abdullah ibn Saba also go to heaven

And your country their are lots of meats are those animals meat

No he wont just like Ibn Taymeya and Ibn Abdhl wahab.

Yes lots of terrorists Wahabis meat for ground since its animals meat.

 

[Mian Babban]

There was political cooperation/unity among Iranian peoples in the past + self-designation as Iranians by these people (not a term (invented) nowadays to refer to a linguistic group or to apply for a group of related nations)

Only in linguistic studies and research papers. Persians have always been at odds with tribal people like Pashtuns and Balochs. Pashtuns were viewed as aliens and foreigners in Persia. There are were Ghilzai Pashtun settlements in Tehran, Mazandaran and other cities/towns (exiled from their native areas by by Nadir Shah Afshar ). After death of Nadir Shah, they also made attempts to grab Persia's throne in which they failed. Karim Khan Zand issued an order that all Pashtun settlements in Persia should be uprooted and all Pashtuns should be killed, so they were killed or chased away from Persia. According to Cambridge history of Iran, Karim Khan Zand was of view that Pashtuns/Afghans, being foreigners, had no business in Persia. In court of Mughal emperor Jehangir, the Persian ambassador narrated a story about origin of Pashtuns according to which latter were unnatural offspring of beautiful race of women and "dev" demons who were exiled to wilderness by king zuhak.

Dev is this demon in Persian folklore

 

[SALMAN F]

And Yes There Is No Such Thing "FORCED RELIGIOUS CONVERSION"

Verse (ayah) 256 of Al-Baqara Clearly States

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion"

Don't Conflate The Actions of People With Religion

BTW Many Hindus Have Said That There Is No Such Thing As Conversion In Hinduism Then How Do You Explain Ghar Wapsi




You're An Even Bigger Idiot Then I Thought If You Had Any Idea I Am A Shia From Gilgit Baltistan

I Would Rather Google
"Bloody Spanish Conquest of New World"

800 Years Of Muslim Rule and Still There Are Over A Billion Hindus On The Other Hand On The Other Hand Ancient Native American Religion Ceases To Exist

It's you who is the stupid how I should know that you are Shia?

Safavid was also a turkic dynasty.
Iran was controlled almost 1000 years by Turkish dynasties.
Just as the Arabs were controlled by Seldjuq Turks and Ottomans.
It was a power struggle among Turks.

Nobody gives a damn the Safavids were called ajam by the ottomans

Because it was so.
Look at today's Iran: Ali Khamenei azeri turk too.

He wear black turban which means he is descended from the prophet and not the Turks

Yes I Can Understand You Approving This Policy Of Safavids Since Your Christian Bretheren Have Had A History Of Doing This In Latin America and Spain.It Is Obvious That You Can Relate

I don't care about Latin America but in the case of Spain they liberated their lands from the muslim invaders

 

[veg]

And Yes There Is No Such Thing "FORCED RELIGIOUS CONVERSION"

Verse (ayah) 256 of Al-Baqara Clearly States

"There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion"

Don't Conflate The Actions of People With Religion

In fact this verse (of no compulsion) has been abrogated by the Verse of Sword, which revealed at the end of Prophet's life in 9th Hijri.

After the Verse of Sword, the final orders are:

1) Kuffar have either to accept Islam, or they should be killed and their women to be taken as slaves along with children.

2) Ahle Kitab are allowed to give Jizyaah and save their life. But this Jizyaa means that they they are 2nd class citizens and they should face hardships which finally compel them to accept Islam.

 

[Glass]

 

[Shah Khalid]

In fact this verse (of no compulsion) has been abrogated by the Verse of Sword, which revealed at the end of Prophet's life in 9th Hijri.

After the Verse of Sword, the final orders are:

1) Kuffar have either to accept Islam, or they should be killed and their women to be taken as slaves along with children.

2) Ahle Kitab are allowed to give Jizyaah and save their life. But this Jizyaa means that they they are 2nd class citizens and they should face hardships which finally compel them to accept Islam.

Samlee Has Already Answered Your Rubbish

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...iran-to-shia-islam.503633/page-5#post-9636798

No Need For Me To Waste Bandwidth

It's you who is the stupid how I should know that you are Shia?

I Don't Care Whether You Should Know Or Not I Don't Need Your Certificate

t and not the Turks


I don't care about Latin America but in the case of Spain they liberated their lands from the muslim invaders

That Liberation Of Spain Led To The Bloodiest Inquisition In History

Of Course You Don't Care About America Or The Genocide Your Christian Brothers Committed Because It Exposes The Glass House You Live In