Science ranking-Iran

[Deno]

and generally noth and south korean are also high IQ race.

High IQ race?! Man... What a joke you are...

 

[rbsrifat]

Well done Iranian. best wishes from bangladesh

 

[kollang]

Well done Iranian. best wishes from bangladesh

wellcome to the PDF

 

[somebozo]

The ranking do not make sense especially in reference to KSA as in 1996 KSA was struggling total bankrupty and massive import vs export imbalance. Even a single screw and bolt had to be imported.

As in 2010 KSA has grown into a potential industrial hub with non oil export exceeding the 1 trillion SAR mark.

So the readings are distorted and influced by hidden agenda.

And Iran can only dream to beat Turkey, industrial output of any country is an open testimony to their scientific output, and in that case some of the best Iranian machinery I have come across were of pathetic quality and full of defects.

I will not even comment on Iran having a higher ranking that Israel, that made me burst into laughter!

Mods should rein in some lunatics here!

 

[Roybot]

The ranking do not make sense especially in reference to KSA as in 1996 KSA was struggling total bankrupty and massive import vs export imbalance. Even a single screw and bolt had to be imported.

As in 2010 KSA has grown into a potential industrial hub with non oil export exceeding the 1 trillion SAR mark.

So the readings are distorted and influced by hidden agenda.

The ranking is based on number of scientific papers produced by each country. Has nothing to do with the industry.

 

[somebozo]

The ranking is based on number of scientific papers produced by each country. Has nothing to do with the industry.

If the number of research paper alone is the bench mark here then the institute awarding these rankings have no credibility. Because the quality of the research matters and not the quantity of research papers. Fraudulent practices are rife in Iran with most of the research papers not even worth they ink they are printed with.

 

[kollang]

The ranking do not make sense especially in reference to KSA as in 1996 KSA was struggling total bankrupty and massive import vs export imbalance. Even a single screw and bolt had to be imported.

As in 2010 KSA has grown into a potential industrial hub with non oil export exceeding the 1 trillion SAR mark.

So the readings are distorted and influced by hidden agenda.

And Iran can only dream to beat Turkey, industrial output of any country is an open testimony to their scientific output, and in that case some of the best Iranian machinery I have come across were of pathetic quality and full of defects.

I will not even comment on Iran having a higher ranking that Israel, that made me burst into laughter!

Mods should rein in some lunatics here!

another troll
plz dont compare KSA with IRAN.this is the worst insult to Iranians
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-photos-multimedia/156164-made-iran.html

 

[longbrained]

If the number of research paper alone is the bench mark here then the institute awarding these rankings have no credibility. Because the quality of the research matters and not the quantity of research papers. Fraudulent practices are rife in Iran with most of the research papers not even worth they ink they are printed with.

Actually you are wrong. Quality of research is measured by its citation index and Iran's citation index is the highest among all Islamic countries including that of Turkey. So your argument is bust. As for industrial production, how would you measure it? By total number of cars produced in a car country? Iran produces more cars than both Israel and Turkey. It is all relative, but the truth is Iran is advancing in relative to others.

 

[Roybot]

If the number of research paper alone is the bench mark here then the institute awarding these rankings have no credibility. Because the quality of the research matters and not the quantity of research papers. Fraudulent practices are rife in Iran with most of the research papers not even worth they ink they are printed with.

It doesn't count every other scientific papers produced by a country, only the one's published in internationally recognized journals, such as these.

SJR : Scientific Journal Rankings

 

[Hussein]

It doesn't count every other scientific papers produced by a country, only the one's published in internationally recognized journals, such as these.

SJR : Scientific Journal Rankings

poor Roybot don't try to explain some of people here, they don't get it
and if you give the exemple of high tech country Israel they just say they don't produce high tech LOL they are so brainwashed

 

[kollang]

poor Roybot don't try to explain some of people here, they don't get it
and if you give the exemple of high tech country Israel they just say they don't produce high tech LOL they are so brainwashed

traitor comming!!

idiot traitor! i said Israel is ahead in military sceince but in other cases....... example:car industry-medicine industry-ship industry-.....

 

[Archdemon]

Actually you are wrong. Quality of research is measured by its citation index and Iran's citation index is the highest among all Islamic countries including that of Turkey. So your argument is bust. As for industrial production, how would you measure it? By total number of cars produced in a car country? Iran produces more cars than both Israel and Turkey. It is all relative, but the truth is Iran is advancing in relative to others.

Absolutely not the case, Iran with 20,804 citation have H index of 106 while Turkey with 20,645 have H index of 176

 

[kollang]

Absolutely not the case, Iran with 20,804 citation have H index of 106 while Turkey with 20,645 have H index of 176

do you know what is the meaning of H-index????

 

[gubbi]

Actually you are wrong. Quality of research is measured by its citation index and Iran's citation index is the highest among all Islamic countries including that of Turkey. So your argument is bust.

That is one of the worst criteria for measuring 'quality of research'. Its really a conundrum, on one hand there are no good methods to 'measure' quality or a research project while OTOH, it gives a some idea as to how many people read your research.

An author may make a wishy-washy hypothetical statement in his/her observations based on a couple of 'substandard' or preliminary experiments. That hypothetical statement might get proven as true in future by someone with better skills and experimental design. But, the original paper which made that hypothetical statement will now get 'cited' - as a rule (unwritten and as acknowledgement) - in all future publications regarding that area of research, irrespective of whether people actually read the whole article or not. So for one hypothetical statement, the number of citations does not mean that it was quality research.

Get the point?

 

[longbrained]

Absolutely not the case, Iran with 20,804 citation have H index of 106 while Turkey with 20,645 have H index of 176

Hahaha, H-Index is completely a different thing measuring the productivity of a single scientists and is used mostly for bureaucratic purposes of promoting the scientists in an organization. At least research before writing something. Let me give you an example. Iran produces almost 0.5% of the top 1% cited scientific documents in the world and is way ahead of Turkey and all other Islamic countries despite the fact that Iran is still improving. Even a Canadian publication has said that by 2017, that is five years from now, Iran will overtake Canada in total production.

That is one of the worst criteria for measuring 'quality of research'. Its really a conundrum, on one hand there are no good methods to 'measure' quality or a research project while OTOH, it gives a some idea as to how many people read your research.

An author may make a wishy-washy hypothetical statement in his/her observations based on a couple of 'substandard' or preliminary experiments. That hypothetical statement might get proven as true in future by someone with better skills and experimental design. But, the original paper which made that hypothetical statement will now get 'cited' - as a rule (unwritten and as acknowledgement) - in all future publications regarding that area of research, irrespective of whether people actually read the whole article or not. So for one hypothetical statement, the number of citations does not mean that it was quality research.

Get the point?

That is the only objective way to measure article quality in large studies. If you do not know that, then it is useless to talk to you. If India is doing something else instead of citation for example using a bureaucrat to rank the articles then that is only acceptable in India and not recognized by international community which predominant use citations. Therefore your rant is useless and only typically Indian.