Saudi warship hit by a Houthi missile off the coast of Yemen

[friendly_troll96]

They have a reason bro.
Why should they say it at all? There is an obvious reason

so you were kidding about the jewish root part right?

 

[Erl]

so you were kidding about the jewish root part right?

No.
They call Israelis as their cousins. Don't you know why?

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Because of the Jewish roots of Al-Saud family.

False, everybody knows Al-Saud family has an IQ that's the same as the average Sub Saharan African (No offence to the Africans). If there is some kind of relation then please explain the extreme stupification of the Al-Saud family.

 

[friendly_troll96]

No.
They call Israelis as their cousins. Don't you know why?
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who are they? looks like a nice couple.

 

[Erl]

who are they? looks like a nice couple.

Livny LOL. She is couple of many politicians.
Palestine's foreign minister and Livny the worst couples ever.
Turki faisal and Livny cousins in fact.

 

[Penguin]

OFF TOPIC

http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/othernavy/fl2000-fl25.htm

Note the stern: the deck where the sonar 'fish' is located is quite low and close to sea level. Also, I doubt either of the twin 40mm Dardo gunmounts could actually turn in and depress enough to hit a boat moving up close to the stern. Likewise for the CLOS R440 SAM. It's a dead angle. Look how small a RIB is relative to the ship (starboard side, next to hangar).

A suicide boat may be remotely controlled. Then again, from a manned boat close in, a person carrying an RPG could well take out a helicopter parked on the flight deck. You might even have a boat mounting a MRL

 

[Penguin]

Tamil Sea Tiger suicide boat.

Tamil Sea Tigers using Carl Gustav from boat

http://warboats-org-forum.41646.n3.nabble.com/Sri-Lanka-vs-Tamil-Tigers-td117601i20.html

http://www.sundaytimes.lk/090510/News/sundaytimesnews_18.html

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Just load up the front with IED / explosives and contact detonator.

Strap on a MRL

Or rig in an old sea mine.

https://warisboring.com/iran-shows-...mock-aircraft-carrier-1a00f16d1853#.ecurtogc3

 

[Penguin]

AL Madina Modernization (2013-14) named LEX (for "Life Extension")
http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/conte...les-batiments-saoudiens-du-programme-sawari-i

"In order to be able to exploit them for another 15 years, these buildings will benefit from a complete upgrade including electronics, mainly supplied by Thales (the F2000 include a Sea Tiger radar, derived from the DRBV-15 C And a Castor firing line). The combat system, type Tavitac, was developed at the time by Thales but is now maintained by DCNS since the absorption of French electronics activities by the naval group in 2007. Thales, whose share of Contract would raise to nearly 200 million euros, should also modernize the submarine detection means of the frigates, which have a hull sonar and a towed antenna. The same will apply to the Crotale system, which will probably be put to the last standard, the VT1. Regarding the rest of the armament, the Saudis could decide to replace the 100mm turret by a 76mm gun, newer and already equipped with the frigates of type F3000 (contract Sawari II), realized by DCNS and put into service between 2002 and 2004. We can also question the replacement of Otomat with Exocet MM40, which would also have the advantage of harmonizing the equipment of the Saudi navy. Since no industrialist involved in the project wishes to express himself at the moment, these are only suppositions. Similarly, it seems logical that the F17 torpedoes, now of old design, are replaced by new MU90 developed by DCNS, Thales and the Italian WASS.

The work, which is expected to be completed by 2019, will be carried out in Jeddah with French technical assistance."

See also http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/conte...pee-par-une-attaque-suicide-au-large-du-yemen

Three boats launched against the Madina
This time, the mode of action is no doubt. The Madina has according to the Saudi authorities been attacked by three boats. Two would have been neutralized but the third threw itself at the back of the frigate, causing an impressive explosion and thus causing at least 5 dead and 11 wounded, some in serious condition. Some local media announced that the building had been destroyed, which is necessary. The Madina, apparently still maneuvering despite its damage, took the direction of the naval base of Jeddah, where the Saudi navy will see the extent of the damage.

The emergence of the asymmetric threat in this strategic zone, both from a military and a commercial point of view, raises questions about the protection of buildings evolving near the coasts of crisis zones, including military units, which Are not all rigged to guard against such actions. Regarding the Madina, Tuesday's attack comes in any case to confirm the merits of the modernization program that will be undertaken on frigates of this type.

The old Crotale replaced by Simbad-RC
This renovation will include the replacement of the old Crotale surface-to-air system by two Simbad-RC systems, the Mistral missiles of which, unlike those of the Crotale, are designed not only for self-defense against anti-ship missiles, But also against fast boats. A capacity that had been tested successfully a few years ago by a French frigate of the Cassard type, whose Mistrals are implemented by two Sadral sextuple launchers (the Simbad-RC is a double pitcher). Concerning the Crotale, which will be remembered that the last version (VT1) operational on La Fayette will be replaced by Sadral from three former F70 ASM, it will be noted that the images of the attack of the Madina show a Crotale launcher empty of everything missile. A very astonishing situation given the dangerous context in this area and which may suggest that this system may no longer be operational on Saudi buildings equipped with R440 missiles, older than the French VT1.

Four units delivered by France in 1985/86
For the record, the four F2000 frigates (Madina, Hofouf, Abha, Taif) were built by DCNS in Lorient (for the seed) and the late CNIM La Seyne-sur-Mer (the other three) The SAWARI I contract, which was commissioned in 1985 and 1986, these 115-meter-long vessels with a capacity of 2870 tonnes can reach the speed of 30 knots thanks to four MAN Pielstick diesel engines developing more than 23 MW. Their armament includes 8 Otomat Mk2 anti-ship missiles, a Crotale surface-to-air system (8 R440 missiles in battery and 16 in hold), a 100mm turret, two 40mm double turrets and four launch tubes for F17P torpedoes. As part of the LEX program, the F2000 has gradually been renovated, apparently the Madina recently. In the second stage, the frigates will see their weapons system renovated. However, they should not be affected by this overhaul, which would be carried out on two to three F2000 only, the fourth (possibly the Hofuf) being eventually withdrawn from service as a stock of spare parts. However, this project could evolve according to the damage suffered by Madina.

 

[Hack-Hook]

They're idiot Rafidis. They are shouting death to America and Israel but they are attacking a Saudi ship. Can't get much more stupider than that.

the question is who started to attack who

 

[Full Moon]

Looks like a successful hit:

I guess it is time for you and your type to celebrate Shia Girl? The next time you create a User Name be sure you declare your deep love and devotion to Iran. You should have used another name than Kuwait Girl as it is clearly misleading.

 

[Sinnerman108]

2 questions

@Full Moon

1. why are they identifying the ship as american ?
2. houthis are trained enough to fire missiles ?

 

[sohailbutt1987]

Ironic isn't it?! you have 4 eurofighters, 8 F15's and 2 tornados doing flybys over Governor House (Ammara) in Riyadh boasting the air power for the last week but could not protect their maritime assets from a supposed suicide boat or a supposed cruise missile?!

"moat ala america, mout ala israel, laanaat ala yahoud"!

 

[Arminkh]

You're not making it better for yourself by this post. Educate yourself on the post WW2 Soviet navy and its leadership e.g. http://cimsec.org/paradox-admiral-gorshkov/13197

So what? Soviet did not have a clear view or strategy towards the use of aircraft carriers and whether they should have any place in their strategy and the link you shared confirms that.

In case of a war, the battle filed would be Europe in the form of a ground battle so they really didn't need the sea to approach their enemy. That's why they always had the upper hand when it came to the quantity of ground units. They would conquer Europe and then simply deny access to US using their missiles and submarines. That's why they generally pursued their strategy of just denying access to nearby seas. And they didn't need carriers for that. Fighting a naval war was not in their agenda and thus the worked on missiles that could deter the naval units.

On the contrary, US always needed to cross the sea to where the action is and always needed carriers to safeguard its fleet in the face of air born attacks.

It is very will defined in this book. You can find pages in google: The Sea in Soviet Strategy.

And let's leave it here. I always forget it is pointless starting a debate here.

 

[Penguin]

Ironic isn't it?! you have 4 eurofighters, 8 F15's and 2 tornados doing flybys over Governor House (Ammara) in Riyadh boasting the air power for the last week but could not protect their maritime assets from a supposed suicide boat or a supposed cruise missile?!

No it isn't ironic. It's exactly the image these dudes hope to achieve. How are Typhoons, F15s and Tornados supposed to protect a ship from an antiship missile, once it is fired? That is not their job. As for suicide boats, it may be some time before one becomes aware that that's what they are, possibly when it is too late already. So, the above is a useless and pointless remark.

 

[sohailbutt1987]

No it isn't ironic. It's exactly the image these dudes hope to achieve. How are Typhoons, F15s and Tornados supposed to protect a ship from an antiship missile, once it is fired? That is not their job. As for suicide boats, it may be some time before one becomes aware that that's what they are, possibly when it is too late already. So, the above is a useless and pointless remark.

simple question. Why boast about Your (Armed forces) if they cannot protect their own country?

and I know that the above mentioned aircraft could not help to neutrilize the cruise missile but my point is made in 1st para.