Saudi Arabia, US sign MoU for corridor linking Asia, Gulf, Europe: Everything to know

[Beny Karachun]

Yes and that jordanian section is the most important section, It requires a rail link from Jordan, through the West Bank and through Israel, which just ain't happening under the current circumstances.

Of Course the zionists are promoting this project and you can see Biden supporting it, but its far from reality.

Whereas the Saudi section to the Egyptian connection is far more viable. hell a connection from Saudi to Turkey via Iraq(shia areas in the south east through the KRG, following the same route as the Iraq Turkey pipeline) is more viable than anything crossing the west bank.

What's so tough about crossing the West Bank? No one is asking the Palestinians for permission.

Besides, the train will go through Beit Shaan, which is in "proper Israel".

Sure, we'll see if Egypt plays hardball by lowering the transit fee, allowing non Indian shippers to continue using Suez, instead of this Saudi/Indian/Israeli turd.

BTW, speaking of AI managed systems, I'm sure a bona fide IIT graduate such as yourself ought to know that the more variables you introduce into a system, i.e. more nodes you add to a transportation network, the more you open yourself up to potential problems. Also if israelis are involved then it's rather idiotic to keep Saudis in the loop, should have just bypassed them and shipped directly to Israel and from there onto Europe.

How are they planning to ship it directly to Israel without going through the Suez or Saudi Arabia? Teleportation devices?

Indeed. The infrastructure in Israel and Saudi as well as the UAE are already there. A rail section needs to be built in Jordan to link it all together as well as work out how to run the ports at either end quickly.

This would actually help China’s BRI efforts; especially the port modernization) because China can steal the thunder of this announcement by signing a deal to modernize the Iraqi and Syrian railways and linking them to Turkey. A faster ALTERNATIVE route to the Riyadh/Jordan/Israel if you take into account the sea leg to Europe.

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A route from Kuwait to Baghdad then across to Raqaa then Aleppo and up to Turkey and directing into the heart of Europe (bypassing Greece) via the Balkans would reach the markets of Europe, faster than bypassing Turkey by sea, especially if the end goal is Germany as in the picture.

This is something the Turks and Chinese should discuss with the Iraqis and Syrians as a counter to this new IMEC corridor.

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P.S. If the GCC wants to not participate the Chinese can help build up the port in Basra to be the starting point, independently of the GCC.

2nd P.S. For Turkey, this would also make them more independent of Iran for Eastern rail based trade.

Ah yes, because terror infested Iraq and Syria are a viable route for goods and billions of dollars worth of infrastructure.

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Basically it seems this indicating SA will recognize Israel soon.

I do not think so.

If KSA were planning to recognise Israel then Israel would have been invited to this meeting.

The agreement will be between Israel & Jordan and Jordan & KSA.

I do not see a direct agreement between KSA & Israel.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

You are not living in the 19th centaury. The quick and efficient way that transfers happen via containerised AI mediated is mind blowing. Today we can transfer a countries six months of trade volume within a day if needs be.


His shaking pinkie finger would reduce your country into a desolate moonscape in minutes. There would be no memory of a country called Iran.

That's why they were blown up while running/flying away from Afghanistan and started shooting civilians in panic and killed aid workers as "revenge" .. shitting their pants , losing war against conservative-Islamist Iranic mountain tribes.

 

[epebble]

From ship to train to truck: Where the action is in transports​

From ship to train to truck: Where the action is in transports

With nearly 25 million containers moving via "intermodal" transport each year, it's the fastest-growing part of the freight business.

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Yep, that is how inland distribution works within a country. Those containers will go from port to unloading docks of Walmarts. Only the empties will go back to port. It is all one directional; heavy in one direction, empty in the other.

 

[hyperman]

No one is asking the Palestinians for permission.

Indeed they are, there will be no acceptance of the Jordanians and Saudis without the approval of the Palestinian Authority.

Ah yes, because terror infested Iraq and Syria are a viable route for goods and billions of dollars worth of infrastructure.

Iraq is a better route than the occupied west bank.

 

[RealDeal]

Sea land and then sea. Goodluck saving money on this. This is just a vanity project of MBS and Modi.

Well you are assuming this project is only there to allow Indian goods to be transported to Europe and vice versa. This project is there to allow trade between all member countries. From India to Europe of course a direct sea route is the cheapest option rather than sea, then rail, then sea. But what if France wants to send goods to UAE - then France to Israel via sea and then rail to UAE is the cheapest option rather than a direct sea route.

Also you haven't taken potential warehousing into account, many companies might set up warehouses midway in Saudi or UAE or Israel, so goods might be sent from Europe to warehouse or India to warehouse and then to the final destination as and when required. There are lots of possibilities...

 

[SaadH]

Well you are assuming this project is only there to allow Indian goods to be transported to Europe and vice versa. This project is there to allow trade between all member countries. From India to Europe of course a direct sea route is the cheapest option rather than sea, then rail, then sea. But what if France wants to send goods to UAE - then France to Israel via sea and then rail to UAE is the cheapest option rather than a direct sea route.

Also you haven't taken potential warehousing into account, many companies might set up warehouses midway in Saudi or UAE or Israel, so goods might be sent from Europe to warehouse or India to warehouse and then to the final destination as and when required. There are lots of possibilities...

East Asian countries are not part of this pact so won't be obligated to use this logistical nightmare. If they have an ounce of sensibility they'll continue using the Suez route with fee negotiated down or they'd just bypass the Saudi leg and directly to Israel and onto Europe.

How are they planning to ship it directly to Israel without going through the Suez or Saudi Arabia? Teleportation devices?

You really Euro jew or a pajeet hindjew pretending to be an Eastern European Khazar?

Abay chutiyay fake yahoodi, Isreal has a port on red Sea on the gulf of Aqaba, Port Eilat.

 

[Puffin]

Sure, we'll see if Egypt plays hardball by lowering the transit fee, allowing non Indian shippers to continue using Suez, instead of this Saudi/Indian/Israeli turd

Why would Egypt single out India with whom it has excellent relations. This is trade for the whole of middle east. Lowering transit fees is fine . We all benefit from it. That is the reason to have competition and countries will choose what suits them.

Also if israelis are involved then it's rather idiotic to keep Saudis in the loop

Saudi's are the MAIN DRIVERS behind this. They are the ones who first put their signature at the bottom of the agreements . They also know they are the prime beneficiaries.

East Asian countries are not part if this pact so won't be obligated to use this logistical nightmare.

The competition will decide what is cheaper better faster etc. Each will make their own judgements, there is no compulsion.

 

[Rank]

The Daily Star website, citing officials: The economic corridor project announced by the Saudi Crown Prince at the G20 summit will reduce shipping times, costs, and diesel use and make trade faster and cheaper..

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It is in too..read the article again..

And also Turkey in an indirect role..

lol this is the same route been going on for the past 3X decades ... whats new?

 

[FuturePAF]

Yes and that jordanian section is the most important section, It requires a rail link from Jordan, through the West Bank and through Israel, which just ain't happening under the current circumstances.

Of Course the zionists are promoting this project and you can see Biden supporting it, but its far from reality.

Whereas the Saudi section to the Egyptian connection is far more viable. hell a connection from Saudi to Turkey via Iraq(shia areas in the south east through the KRG, following the same route as the Iraq Turkey pipeline) is more viable than anything crossing the west bank.

Doubt it would go through the West Bank, they wouldn’t want to deal with the political issues, probably come up from the south and up through “mainland Israel” to Haifa.

What's so tough about crossing the West Bank? No one is asking the Palestinians for permission.

Besides, the train will go through Beit Shaan, which is in "proper Israel".


How are they planning to ship it directly to Israel without going through the Suez or Saudi Arabia? Teleportation devices?


Ah yes, because terror infested Iraq and Syria are a viable route for goods and billions of dollars worth of infrastructure.

If China can get the GCC on board, they can pay off what ever tribes or groups that could threaten the project. For Syria and Iraq it would be their chance to get back into geo-strategic relevance. Also considering Turkey is being cut out of this corridor, they could work with their partners in Syria and Iraq to secure the corridor. If kept away from the Kurdish areas, it could be the basis for new mutually beneficial arrangement between Turkey, Syria, and Iraq. If the GCC is not on board, the Turks and these two Arab countries could pay off some of the groups and work with these two Arab countries to deal with those that don’t.

 

[FuturePAF]

lol this is the same route been going on for the past 3X decades ... whats new?

It’s new packaging and probably paving the way for recognition of Israel for some deal with the US for SA and the UAE.

Just states acting based on their national interests as new arrangements are being offered to them.

What we will have to see is if SA gets that article 5 level protection deal approved by the US senate.

 

[TriptiD]

Sea land and then sea. Goodluck saving money on this. This is just a vanity project of MBS and Modi.

Which cheaper route links India, Saudi, Israeli and Western Europe? Indian investment is going to be minimal anyway.

A route from Kuwait to Baghdad then across to Raqaa then Aleppo and up to Turkey and directing into the heart of Europe (bypassing Greece) via the Balkans would reach the markets of Europe, faster than bypassing Turkey by sea, especially if the end goal is Germany as in the picture.

This route passes through warzones and what industrial capacity The most important participating countries are the three continental G7 countries.

a bunch of geopolitical obstacles to this path.

like what ?

Pakistan is a failure.

ok

lol this is the same route been going on for the past 3X decades ... whats new?

Saudi Arabia and Israel have had a rail connection for the past 3x decades?

Sea land and then sea. Goodluck saving money on this. This is just a vanity project of MBS and Modi.

Which cheaper route links India, Saudi, Israeli and Western Europe? Indian investment is going to be minimal anyway.

A route from Kuwait to Baghdad then across to Raqaa then Aleppo and up to Turkey and directing into the heart of Europe (bypassing Greece) via the Balkans would reach the markets of Europe, faster than bypassing Turkey by sea, especially if the end goal is Germany as in the picture.

This route passes through warzones and what industrial capacity The most important participating countries are the three continental G7 countries.

lol this is the same route been going on for the past 3X decades ... whats new?

Saudi Arabia and Israel have had a rail connection for the past 3x decades ?

Doubt it would go through the West Bank, they wouldn’t want to deal with the political issues, probably come up from the south and up through “mainland Israel” to Haifa.


If China can get the GCC on board, they can pay off what ever tribes or groups that could threaten the project. For Syria and Iraq it would be their chance to get back into geo-strategic relevance. Also considering Turkey is being cut out of this corridor, they could work with their partners in Syria and Iraq to secure the corridor. If kept away from the Kurdish areas, it could be the basis for new mutually beneficial arrangement between Turkey, Syria, and Iraq. If the GCC is not on board, the Turks and these two Arab countries could pay off some of the groups and work with these two Arab countries to deal with those that don’t.

Yeah, sure links based on payoffs to warlords are very secure and stable as seen in Afghanistan.

 

[Edevelop]

Saudi Arabia and Israel have had a rail connection for the past 3x decades?

Yup and goes back much further due to Ottoman Empire. The Arabs destroyed the railway line with the help of Lawrence of Arabia.

This was the station in Istanbul that connected trains to Medina. But as per your plan you people want to by pass them and take Greece on board which is as unsustainable as is from India to UAE

 

[TriptiD]

Yup and goes back much further due to Ottoman Empire. The Arabs destroyed the railway line with the help of Lawrence of Arabia.

This was the station in Istanbul that connected trains to Medina.

The Hejaz railway never reached modern day UAE or anywhere near the Persian Gulf and it was a failure even for the few years it operated. The last train ran over 100 years ago.

 

[protean]

Haifa port was recently handed over to Adani. This is long time in making. Adani is strategically placed to make it a reality.

Haifa Port, Gautam Adani and Israel's plan for the Middle East

The multi-billion dollar purchase by the Indian billionaire will accelerate Israel's integration into the Middle East as it expands and deepens its occupation over Palestinian life and land

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