Saras: How much indigenous is it???

[IndianArmy]

Am not sure there is any link between pic taken and design initiated by MDB.

For all I know MDB designed M-102 Duet in soviet time and were looking for partner to share the cost, after soviet kaput..


NAL saw and liked the design .........rest is wink wink.

If wink wink is Possible, why hasnt Pakistan taken up any project like that, before criticizing You must also take into consideration that the country which You belong to has not taken any steps forward, Atleast India has 4 Civilian aircrafts project running side by side.

It might not be a big thing for u, But for us It sure is, We are trying to make a move forward rather sitting in a safe place criticizing others development....

 

[gowthamraj]

@thread starter. . Please give links . Yours won mouth is not credit

 

[Prowler]

Am not sure there is any link between pic taken and design initiated by MDB.

For all I know MDB designed M-102 Duet in soviet time and were looking for partner to share the cost, after soviet kaput..


NAL saw and liked the design .........rest is wink wink.

M-102 Duet-Saras

M-102 Duet-Saras - Joint (50/50) russian-indian project. 14..19 seats passenger a/c. Price about $3.5M (cost of project $44M, estimated market is 1000 a/c for CIS + 300 for India). Serial production planned at "Sokol", Nizhni Novgorod and at HAL, India.

This was what they had in mind ....the project started in 1991.Later due to financial problems they gave up.And we decided to push on without them.

 

[Titanium]

@thread starter. . Please give links . Yours won mouth is not credit

You want Spoon feeding???


Just to recap, these are the parts imported. Am not sure anything is left of the plane to be added to make it "indigenous";

• * Design
• * Egines
• * Propellers
• * Digital avionics system components,
• * Fuel system components,
• * Electrical power generation components,
• * Hydraulic system components,
• * Emergency system components
• * Raw material and standard parts.
• * Data and voice recorder

 

[Titanium]

....the project started in 1991

I don't want this to be your word against mine....

So could you be little specific when NAL joined hands with MDB

 

[IndianArmy]

You want Spoon feeding???


Just to recap, these are the parts imported. Am not sure anything is left of the plane to be added to make it "indigenous";

• * Design
• * Egines
• * Propellers
• * Digital avionics system components,
• * Fuel system components,
• * Electrical power generation components,
• * Hydraulic system components,
• * Emergency system components
• * Raw material and standard parts.
• * Data and voice recorder

ADA is developing Avionics, Which Includes, Navigation, Communications,flight control systems,Collision-avoidance systems,Aircraft management systems(Probably a joint venture with SAMTEL),Hydraulic system made By HAL is tested In NAL.

We export raw materials to many countries, its not a problem for us to use it in our products...

Engines and Black box, its not Indian, but Gas turbine research establishment is Working on Engines.... And Would U bother to reply for post #91?

 

[IndianArmy]

I don't want this to be your word against mine....

So could you be little specific when NAL joined hands with MDB

In 1991... NAL joined them... but they Left due to financial trouble, India went on with it

 

[Titanium]

ADA is developing Avionics, Which Includes, Navigation, Communications,flight control systems,Collision-avoidance systems,Aircraft management systems(Probably a joint venture with SAMTEL),Hydraulic system made By HAL is tested In NAL.

We export raw materials to many countries, its not a problem for us...

Engines and Black box, its not Indian, but Gas turbine research establishment is Working on Engines.... And Would U bother to reply for post #91?

Full of

A project initiated in 1991 as one gowthamraju makes us believe... ALLMOST ALL COMPONENTS ARE still underdevelopment in lab.


Just to call your blufff.....provide the link for turboprop engine development for saras.

Gas turbine research establishment is Working on Engines...

 

[Titanium]

In 1991... NAL joined them... but they Left due to financial trouble, India went on with it

Do you have any comprehension problem??

Am asking for "specific" time, as in date they entered in joint venture, not some vague year, lest anyone think you guys pulling one from thin air.


I want to hear from you guys and correct any mistake from side. Hope am not asking too much, source is very much appreciated.

 

[IndianArmy]

Full of

A project initiated in 1991 as one gowthamraju makes us believe... ALLMOST ALL COMPONENTS ARE still underdevelopment in lab.


Just to call your blufff.....provide the link for turboprop engine development for saras.

Yes, Its our first civilian aircraft, we Joined Russia to gain experiance,Russia With drew itself, we were left alone, So developing an aircraft from scratch Does take time....

When you are asked for a link You dont give, and you expect me to give?? You believe it or not GTRE is developing turbo prop engines.HAL has been Making and exporting GARRETT 331 - 5 Turbo prop engines since 1988...

When pakistan starts developing an Aircraft on its own, then it will see Complications, Not by sitting Idle laughing at others Efforts

 

[IndianArmy]

Do you have any comprehension problem??

Am asking for "specific" time, as in date they entered in joint venture, not some vague year, lest anyone think you guys pulling one from thin air.


I want to hear from you guys and correct any mistake from side. Hope am not asking too much, source is very much appreciated.

Do you have digestive problems? Or is your stomach is Burning(I can feel the heat)?? , We joined in 1991 and that Thats What you will get when u google, Is google still safe and sound In Ur area?

 

[gowthamraj]

@thread starter. It is forum rules that you must provide sources for your claim. Not your. . .

 

[Titanium]

Do you have digestive problems? Or is your stomach is Burning(I can feel the heat)?? , We joined in 1991 and that Thats What you will get when u google, Is google still safe and sound In Ur area?

Thats it.....

 

[hal-fgfa]

Thats it.....

so u dont want to change ur signature ... no problem i can show you some think worse for muslims if u want ????

 

[Titanium]

You believe it or not GTRE is developing turbo prop engines.HAL has been Making and exporting GARRETT 331 - 5 Turbo prop engines since 1988...

Am asking you again about GTRE developing turboprop engine.... or retract your BS.

I hope you don't to be known as one spreading lies and propaganda, with no basis whatsoever.....