Russia, China and Pakistan for flexible ties with Taliban, India ignored

[Zen0]

India doesn't even have a border with Afghanistan. Why is this news ?

 

[Hiptullha]

Naah, we will sit back and enjoy the show..We know how Pakistani promoted and sponsored taliban peace story always ends. The climax will remain the same.

We will soon get another chance to say ." We told you so...again".

Lol India has already sunk a billion dollars in Afghanistan and is probably planning to sink several hundred million more. India won't have any time to relax or sit back in this arena. With hundreds of millions at stake, you can bet 'retired' Hanumen will be dying in Afghanistan while Modi ensures that his foolish gamble pays off.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Russia is there to fight ISIS but not to fill someone's starving bowl.Afghanistan would be the next battleground if ISIS is pushed out of Syria & Iraq completely.
If Russia hurts Indian policies beyond the line then it's time for India to make a strategic shift & pull back all R&D money..We will get to see how long they sustain.

Yeah. Because indian money was used to make the Russian/Soviet Union a superpower in the 1920s/30s. So they can't survive without you people can't they?

 

[Verve]

What lies?.. you think Pakistan can entice UAE, Saudi, US, NATO or any other decent state by producing the taliban lollipop again and again? You seem to be indulging in conspiracy theories about Osama, but the world knows the truth.

It was Pakistan that took the taliban to the US in the first place, it's Pakistan's madrassas and training grounds that produced the taliban...now don't tell me the US and India forced you to do it.


One would have imagined that Pakistan would have learnt its lessons by now that you don't feed and promote snakes..but then, they seem to have found a new buyer for the taliban peace talks theory..and we know how it ends.

Standing up in support terrorists, butchers, medieval cave rats. The taliban are killing poor afghan folk on a daily basis, and you guys are advocating a future under taliban for the poor afghan because it's suits your narrative?.

I guess what the taliban did to Pakistan wasn't lesson enough.

We have no issues with Afghan Taliban and they have had no issues with us pre or post 9/11.

TTP/BLA are not Afghan Talibans and these lot are sponsored by you and USA. TTP only came in to existence in 2004, 2 years after US invasion of Afghanistan.

Russia, China and Pakistan are in favour of Afghan Talibans, not the scums you lot sponsor. No one is trying to lift UN sanctions from TTP/BLA scums in Afghanistan.

 

[CriticalThought]

if the last 15 years is to go by india just is a by stander when it comes to Afghanistan, they are going to get used like a used condom by the afghanis. the fact that no super powers USA, UK, China, Russia brings india to the table when talking about Afg is proof of this. Indians are just back seat riders in Afg at the moment.

Also Indians have to be the stupidest people on earth if they think the Afghanis won't turn on them once the allied forces leave. Afghanis taking order by Hindus is never going to happen, afghani people have nothing except their pride and they won't take orders from any hindus no matter how much money india poured money into development projects.

DO NOT underestimate the power of pelf, prostitute, and piss (alcohol) to corrupt men. Such elements are aplenty in the Afghan government. That is why you need God fearing good Taliban. But that is also why the US and India get incompetent fools working for them and we get extremely motivated and focused people on our side Alhamdulillah.

 

[Isotope]

India isn't interested in any ties with the Taliban, no matter how fruitful it is, Taliban are a lunatic bunch of medieval cave rats.

 

[illusion8]

Who's kamran yousof? Never heard of him.

We have no issues with Afghan Taliban and they have had no issues with us pre or post 9/11.

TTP/BLA are not Afghan Talibans and these lot are sponsored by you and USA. TTP only came in to existence in 2004, 2 years after US invasion of Afghanistan.

Russia, China and Pakistan are in favour of Afghan Talibans, not the scums you lot sponsor. No one is trying to lift UN sanctions from TTP/BLA scums in Afghanistan.

TTP operates out of taliban controlled areas, they share their cadres. They share their leaders. One would have hoped that you people would have come to your senses by now. .There are no good and bad taliban.

The only good taliban is a dead one.

Lol India has already sunk a billion dollars in Afghanistan and is probably planning to sink several hundred million more. India won't have any time to relax or sit back in this arena. With hundreds of millions at stake, you can bet 'retired' Hanumen will be dying in Afghanistan while Modi ensures that his foolish gamble pays off.

It's aiding a fellow Asian country, trying to get them on the right path...building schools, roads, hospitals, giving scholarships, providing medical aid, building TV and radio stations, building dams...

If it saves lives and takes people out of misery and terrorism. .then it was well invested.

Not supporting terrorist scum who believe in retarded laws and impose it by killing innocents.

 

[punit]

good taliban on odd days .. bad talibans on even days !!

 

[LeGenD]

A well-researched analysis of situation in the Afpak region: http://www.cfr.org/terrorist-organi...85?cid=marketing_use-taliban_infoguide-012115

Only idiots and naive believe that Afghan Taliban is the same ideological force that it used to be prior to 9/11 event. It is now a consortium of criminalized elements with varying interests. If Pakistani establishment believes that it can reason with this consortium on the whole, it is deluding itself once again.

By sidelining the Afghan government and USA in matters pertaining to Afghanistan, we will orchestrate a new era of proxy wars in the region which is not good for regional stability and CPEC. Only ISIS and India will gain from this regional instability.

We need to bring US to the negotiation table in the matters of Afghanistan. No ifs and buts about it. Only US has the power to influence Afghan government and bring it to negotiation table in turn.

Anyhow, deliberations in these meetings hardly gain publicity. And I hope that Pakistani establishment can reach an understanding with the Afghan government and US on these matters. Trump administration gives us hope.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Indians will be Irrelevant in Afghanistan the Day Uncle SAM leave .. within few months Taliban will over-through the Kabul Govt . Russia , China , US , NATO and everyone else know that no one is going anywhere in Afghanistan without Pakistan , as soon as Indians realize it its good for them ..

It'll be officially Uncle Trump from Jan 20...

 

[RangeMaster]

Prior to 9/11 they were FREEDOM FIGHTERS.
Doing the same thing they were doing for the last 20 years but against US made them terrorist.
They are defending their country and everyone has a right to do this.
Shame to UN and other such American puppets.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Brokering ties with the Taliban to all and sundry is not really a strategy of the deep state . It's actually quite pathetic.

Look at the fallouts - the saudis, UAE, the Americans, NATO - no one wants anything to do with the Taliban.

Thinking that China's OBOR will pass through talibani territory is like handing over your most ambitious project's balls into the hands of the lunatics.

India will not even touch the Taliban with a barge pole - because the taliban mofo's are bad press. You don't want to be associated with beheading lunatics in any way so thanks but no thanks.

I agree with your logic about Taliban as these are the worst fvckers to be negotiating with. But the reality is that they still hold majority of the country, even with their crazy, lunatic religious ideology. Sad but its the reality.

On India, well, no matter what she thinks or sets up as a strategy, its an internal thing as in Afghanistan's fate, I don't see India's opinion making it across the border. If I was to guess, after watching and analyzing Russian and Chinese moves in this region for the past two years, the Afghan leadership soon, will give into the pressure being put on them by the Russian and the Chinese. The Chinese would soon make them a part of their CPEC and wouldn't mind throwing in $ 5-10 billion to rebuild parts of this country so some economic activity can start. That would pretty much be the end of the Indian influence in Afghanistan beyond just paper. Let's see how it turns out.

I've studied the political and strategic history of this entire region for the past 45 years, never have I seen so many new strategic developments happening so fast and boldly by the Russians and the Chinese just in the past 2 years.

 

[Hiptullha]

good taliban on odd days .. bad talibans on even days !!

Aaand here comes the bitching.

Cant wait for the day when Modi walks up to Jinping and Putin at an international forum and starts whining about 'good terrorist and bad terrorist' in Afghanistan.

It's aiding a fellow Asian country..

Do you expect anyone here to fall for this BS? We saw India's humanitarian love for their fellow Asian countries during the Nepal blockade.

.building schools, roads, hospitals, giving scholarships, providing medical aid, building TV and radio stations, building dams...

And? Pakistan's provides scholarships to Afghan students, has allowed Afghans troops and citizens in the border areas to seek medical assistance over here, and has built universities and other infrastructure. The US, the EU, and China are doing the same. Why is it that it's only you folks shamelessly blathering about it?

Not supporting terrorist scum who believe in retarded laws and impose it by killing innocents.

Yeah, just supporting warlords, drug-smugglers, child-rapists and other fine, upstanding individuals according to Hindu principles. Please, save this BS for GangaDefence.com.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Afghanistan and USA will have much more influence than Russia and China
in any negotiations ;going forward

 

[I.R.A]

Afghanistan and USA will have much more influence than Russia and China
in any negotiations ;going forward

They had all the influence ........... going backward but well................. here we are with only relevant countries, that are serious about conflict resolution ..... discussing it.