Rights activists suggest taking Tipaimukh issue to UN int’l court

[patna_ke_presley]

TIPAIMUKH DAM a geotectonic blunder II

What a propaganda Article, there are three Huge Dams called Baglihar Dams, Mangla Dam, Tarbela Dam in Himalayas. There was severe 7.6 richter scale earthquake in Kashmir in 2005, did any Bangladeshi ever hear of any of three dams got a burst. Right Now, Indian and Pakistanis are building more Dams in same region.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

TIPAIMUKH DAM a geotectonic blunder II

you are creating hype only.

 

[eastwatch]

I would like the participants of this thread to read the following:

1) A dam may cause positive effects to the population living downstream if its desired purpose is so. During rainy season the dam retains excess water, thus causing less floods in the downstream. During lean season it releases the retained water to the turbines to produce electricity.

2) This released water goes downstream that will increase the supply of water than before. It means, it is possible to make more water available during lean seasons if the purpose of a dam is so.

3) However, Indian desire is not explicit. Tipaimukh Dam may release water for the sole purpose of irrigating only the Indian farmlands downstream, thus depriving Bangladesh. Only sending a survey team to the proposed site by the BNP and the GoB is not sufficient to know about the Indian intention.

4) They must seek data such as the rainwater catchment area, water discharge capacity at the outlets, water retaining capacity of lake, height (or HEAD as the engineers denote) and other dimensions of the dam, power generation capacity of each turbine etc. When these are available to them, they should do their own calculations to know how the dam will effect/affect downstream Bangladesh.

5) Moreover, there must be a Tipai treaty between Bangladesh and India on the flows of Tipai water to the former before a dam is built..

 

[livingdead]

I would like the participants of this thread to read the following:

1) A dam may cause positive effects to the population living downstream if its desired purpose is so. During rainy season the dam retains excess water, thus causing less floods in the downstream. During lean season it releases the retained water to the turbines to produce electricity.

2) This released water goes downstream that will increase the supply of water than before. It means, it is possible to make more water available during lean seasons if the purpose of a dam is so.

3) However, Indian desire is not explicit. Tipaimukh Dam may release water for the sole purpose of irrigating only the Indian farmlands downstream, thus depriving Bangladesh. Only sending a survey team to the proposed site by the BNP and the GoB is not sufficient to know about the Indian intention.

4) They must seek data such as the rainwater catchment area, water discharge capacity at the outlets, water retaining capacity of lake, height (or HEAD as the engineers denote) and other dimensions of the dam, power generation capacity of each turbine etc. When these are available to them, they should do their own calculations to know how the dam will effect/affect downstream Bangladesh.

5) Moreover, there must be a Tipai treaty between Bangladesh and India on the flows of Tipai water to the former before a dam is built..

You seem to have good knowledge about this issue. Can you write about what international law dictates?

 

[patna_ke_presley]

I would like the participants of this thread to read the following:

1) A dam may cause positive effects to the population living downstream if its desired purpose is so. During rainy season the dam retains excess water, thus causing less floods in the downstream. During lean season it releases the retained water to the turbines to produce electricity.

2) This released water goes downstream that will increase the supply of water than before. It means, it is possible to make more water available during lean seasons if the purpose of a dam is so.

3) However, Indian desire is not explicit. Tipaimukh Dam may release water for the sole purpose of irrigating only the Indian farmlands downstream, thus depriving Bangladesh. Only sending a survey team to the proposed site by the BNP and the GoB is not sufficient to know about the Indian intention.

4) They must seek data such as the rainwater catchment area, water discharge capacity at the outlets, water retaining capacity of lake, height (or HEAD as the engineers denote) and other dimensions of the dam, power generation capacity of each turbine etc. When these are available to them, they should do their own calculations to know how the dam will effect/affect downstream Bangladesh.

5) Moreover, there must be a Tipai treaty between Bangladesh and India on the flows of Tipai water to the former before a dam is built..

Main purpose of the Dam is to control flood and produce some 1500 MW electricity. We are unfortunate that our neighbors don't want us to build dam and fulfil the requirement of energy hungry India. Bangladesh can go for water-sharing treaty for the Tapimukh but should not protest about building the Dam.

 

[Tshering22]

What a propaganda Article, there are three Huge Dams called Baglihar Dams, Mangla Dam, Tarbela Dam in Himalayas. There was severe 7.6 richter scale earthquake in Kashmir in 2005, did any Bangladeshi ever hear of any of three dams got a burst. Right Now, Indian and Pakistanis are building more Dams in same region.

Ignore the crying, bhai. The anti-Indian ones are just worried sick that what would happen if we (since we are) utilize the resources to optimum and emerge even better? Rather than running harder in the race, they are desperate to pull the front runner behind by his shirt. This doesn't really work.

 

[zootinali]

Ignore the crying, bhai. The anti-Indian ones are just worried sick that what would happen if we (since we are) utilize the resources to optimum and emerge even better? Rather than running harder in the race, they are desperate to pull the front runner behind by his shirt. This doesn't really work.

You know what, when GOI approves some mega projects, nothing can stop it .I can see parallel to BD concerns in our own Lower subansiri megadam project.Assamese people (usually farmers ) vehemently opposed it citing flood , earthquake,desrtification and what not .. what happened ?? absolutely nothing.. the project`s construction is going on in full swing...Nothing can stop Tipaimukh project ,we desperately need energy .. at best BD would sign some water sharing treaty with us and everything would be back in place

OOps replied to wrong person . i meant to reply patna ke persely

 

[idune]

I would like the participants of this thread to read the following:

1) A dam may cause positive effects to the population living downstream if its desired purpose is so. During rainy season the dam retains excess water, thus causing less floods in the downstream. During lean season it releases the retained water to the turbines to produce electricity.

2) This released water goes downstream that will increase the supply of water than before. It means, it is possible to make more water available during lean seasons if the purpose of a dam is so.

These points are pure BS more specifically when it comes to india. Experience with Farakka and Teesta and other rivers already showed how Bangladesh was deprived from water. Anyone like you propagating textbook BS is singing indian tune just like Awami regime and then prime minister Sheikh Mujib did to Bangladesh.

3) However, Indian desire is not explicit. Tipaimukh Dam may release water for the sole purpose of irrigating only the Indian farmlands downstream, thus depriving Bangladesh. Only sending a survey team to the proposed site by the BNP and the GoB is not sufficient to know about the Indian intention.

As usual india plotted a deceving plan, India will build Fulertal barrage after the Tpamukh dam. Goal was to slow natural water flow of the rver using the Tipaimukh dam and then using Fulertal barrage india will fully control flow of rver an withdraw water from Bangladesh.

4) They must seek data such as the rainwater catchment area, water discharge capacity at the outlets, water retaining capacity of lake, height (or HEAD as the engineers denote) and other dimensions of the dam, power generation capacity of each turbine etc. When these are available to them, they should do their own calculations to know how the dam will effect/affect downstream Bangladesh.

There should be no dam perod. This issue is not about data but indian poltical and strategic game plan to spell disaster for Banglaesh an keep Banglaesh uner indian hegemonic spell.

5) Moreover, there must be a Tipai treaty between Bangladesh and India on the flows of Tipai water to the former before a dam is built.

Are you livng in fools world and askng us to do the same? Bangladesh does not have the way to force a treaty Awami regime gave it up.

 

[Tshering22]

You know what, when GOI approves some mega projects, nothing can stop it .I can see parallel to BD concerns in our own Lower subansiri megadam project.Assamese people (usually farmers ) vehemently opposed it citing flood , earthquake,desrtification and what not .. what happened ?? absolutely nothing.. the project`s construction is going on in full swing...Nothing can stop Tipaimukh project ,we desperately need energy .. at best BD would sign some water sharing treaty with us and everything would be back in place

OOps replied to wrong person . i meant to reply patna ke persely

That's fine. But the thing is that most of these dam "concerns" are funneled by foreign-funded "rights" groups who are nothing but extended armed of other countries' political parties to hamper the growth of our country. For example, these so-called rights bodies don't say ANYTHING when the plan is announced; but once billions have been spent and 95% of work is done, then they come out and protest so that our money should get wasted. More so, these funded agencies are jealous of our region here in northeast India because our 7 sister states are some of the richest in resources. What makes them further irritated is that despite another country Bangladesh in midst of us and rest of India, we are still Indians and proud to be so. That's the bloody reason why they show "concern" only when crores have been spent.

 

[fallstuff]

Sounds apealing. When you dont even have enough grazing land to raise cows you want thousands of square km of land for reservior?? We dont have that luxury my friend. Besides we basically dont need much surface water for irrigation. The reason we are very worried is the salinity down south and only the current of the wather which pushes the saline water to sea not the reserviour.

I didn't say it would be easy. A lot can be done with existing water bodies. The point is to be in charge of your destiny.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

These points are pure BS more specifically when it comes to india. Experience with Farakka and Teesta and other rivers already showed how Bangladesh was deprived from water. Anyone like you propagating textbook BS is singing indian tune just like Awami regime and then prime minister Sheikh Mujib did to Bangladesh.



As usual india plotted a deceving plan, India will build Fulertal barrage after the Tpamukh dam. Goal was to slow natural water flow of the rver using the Tipaimukh dam and then using Fulertal barrage india will fully control flow of rver an withdraw water from Bangladesh.



There should be no dam perod. This issue is not about data but indian poltical and strategic game plan to spell disaster for Banglaesh an keep Banglaesh uner indian hegemonic spell.




Are you livng in fools world and askng us to do the same? Bangladesh does not have the way to force a treaty Awami regime gave it up.

I am from plains of Northern India. India recently built Tihri Dam on Ganga in Uttarakhand but I never heard Uttar Pradesh and Bihar complaining because they have widespread under-ground water and ponds and rains and we don't use river water even in summer season. Really it is funny to understand India is depriving Bangladesh of its water when Bangladesh is rich in water resources.

You have lots of silly politicians who think are always in search of issues to blame each other and divert the attention of common people.

 

[idune]

Tipaimukh dam, Fulertal barrage spell 'disaster' for Sylhet, say experts

Fri, May 29th, 2009 12:52 am BdST Dial

Maruf Mallick

Dhaka, May 28 (bdnews24.com)—Farm output will fall and poverty will rise, spelling 'disaster' for the Sylhet region if India's proposed Tipaimukh dam and Fulertal barrage are built, maintain experts.

"The dam will cause water flow to slow down while the barrage will ensure their full control of water resources," former director general and chief engineer of Water Resources Planning Organisation,engineer Inamul Haque told bdnews24.com Thursday. "

The cultivation of early variety of boro in the northeast would be hampered," he said.

"So far as I know the Tipaimukh dam will be built 200 kms from the Amolshid border, at Zakingong, to construct a vast water reservoir for hydro-power generation."

"The water from three rivers—the Barak, Tipai and Irang—would be required to feed the water reservoir to cover an immense area," said Inamul.

"Besides, another barrage is to be built 100 kms off our border at Fulertal in India for irrigation purposes which would feed the waters through canals," Haq said.

Haq said downstream regions will experience two major impacts: firstly, with the decrease of water in December, the people who now grow early varieties of boro on the land which used to arise in the haor areas would no longer have this resource.

Secondly, the water flow of the river Surma will decrease significantly, he said.

IUCN resident director Dr.Ainun Nishat told bdnews24.com that the construction of Tipaimukh dam will reduce the the natural monsoon flood patterns of the area on which cultivation depends.

He said the construction of barrage at Fulertal on top of the Tipaimukh dam could seriously reduce the water flow during the dry season.

"The extent of drop in water flow depends on the volume of water withdrawn through the irrigation canals," he said.

"We could see the Surma and Kushiara rivers dry up completely during the dry season, he said

Anu Muhammad, professor of economics at Jahangirnagar University, told bdnews24.com the Tipaimukh dam and Fulertal barrage would spell "a great disaster."

"Arable land will decline and production of crops fall, leading to a rise in poverty," he said.

According to some reports, the proposed Tipaimukh dam across the river Barak in the Indian state Monipur will 162.5 metres high and 390metres long to create a reservoir by permanently submerging some 2.75 square kilometers of land.

India expects to generate around 1500 megawatt of hydropower from the project.

Tipaimukh dam, Fulertal barrage spell 'disaster' for Sylhet, say experts | Tipaimukh | bdnews24.com

 

[zootinali]

That's fine. But the thing is that most of these dam "concerns" are funneled by foreign-funded "rights" groups who are nothing but extended armed of other countries' political parties to hamper the growth of our country. For example, these so-called rights bodies don't say ANYTHING when the plan is announced; but once billions have been spent and 95% of work is done, then they come out and protest so that our money should get wasted. More so, these funded agencies are jealous of our region here in northeast India because our 7 sister states are some of the richest in resources. What makes them further irritated is that despite another country Bangladesh in midst of us and rest of India, we are still Indians and proud to be so. That's the bloody reason why they show "concern" only when crores have been spent.

To be honest i never thought of this foreign hand thing, thanks for pointing out.Besides there are lots of BDeshi member here who talk of stuff like breaking up and annexing N.E by pushing illegal migrnats and stuff like that.In there dreams may be .. but as far as Tipaimukh is concerned i think it too late for any one to do anything to stop it..

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Tipaimukh dam, Fulertal barrage spell 'disaster' for Sylhet, say experts

Fri, May 29th, 2009 12:52 am BdST Dial

Maruf Mallick

Dhaka, May 28 (bdnews24.com)—Farm output will fall and poverty will rise, spelling 'disaster' for the Sylhet region if India's proposed Tipaimukh dam and Fulertal barrage are built, maintain experts.

"The dam will cause water flow to slow down while the barrage will ensure their full control of water resources," former director general and chief engineer of Water Resources Planning Organisation,engineer Inamul Haque told bdnews24.com Thursday. "

The cultivation of early variety of boro in the northeast would be hampered," he said.

"So far as I know the Tipaimukh dam will be built 200 kms from the Amolshid border, at Zakingong, to construct a vast water reservoir for hydro-power generation."

"The water from three rivers—the Barak, Tipai and Irang—would be required to feed the water reservoir to cover an immense area," said Inamul.

"Besides, another barrage is to be built 100 kms off our border at Fulertal in India for irrigation purposes which would feed the waters through canals," Haq said.

Haq said downstream regions will experience two major impacts: firstly, with the decrease of water in December, the people who now grow early varieties of boro on the land which used to arise in the haor areas would no longer have this resource.

Secondly, the water flow of the river Surma will decrease significantly, he said.

IUCN resident director Dr.Ainun Nishat told bdnews24.com that the construction of Tipaimukh dam will reduce the the natural monsoon flood patterns of the area on which cultivation depends.

He said the construction of barrage at Fulertal on top of the Tipaimukh dam could seriously reduce the water flow during the dry season.

"The extent of drop in water flow depends on the volume of water withdrawn through the irrigation canals," he said.

"We could see the Surma and Kushiara rivers dry up completely during the dry season, he said

Anu Muhammad, professor of economics at Jahangirnagar University, told bdnews24.com the Tipaimukh dam and Fulertal barrage would spell "a great disaster."

"Arable land will decline and production of crops fall, leading to a rise in poverty," he said.

According to some reports, the proposed Tipaimukh dam across the river Barak in the Indian state Monipur will 162.5 metres high and 390metres long to create a reservoir by permanently submerging some 2.75 square kilometers of land.

India expects to generate around 1500 megawatt of hydropower from the project.

Tipaimukh dam, Fulertal barrage spell 'disaster' for Sylhet, say experts | Tipaimukh | bdnews24.com

Should I repeat once again. What a propaganda Article, there are three Huge Dams called Baglihar Dams, Mangla Dam, Tarbela Dam in Himalayas. There was severe 7.6 richter scale earthquake in Kashmir in 2005, did any Bangladeshi ever hear of any of three dams got a burst. Right Now, Indian and Pakistanis are building more Dams in same region.

Last month there was an earthquake in Sikkim and nothing happened to Rangit Dam some 30-40Km away from epicentre and Bangladesh was not flooded because of that.

 

[Avisheik]

I am from plains of Northern India. India recently built Tihri Dam on Ganga in Uttarakhand but I never heard Uttar Pradesh and Bihar complaining because they have widespread under-ground water and ponds and rains and we don't use river water even in summer season. Really it is funny to understand India is depriving Bangladesh of its water when Bangladesh is rich in water resources.

You have lots of silly politicians who think are always in search of issues to blame each other and divert the attention of common people.

Well you see, bangladesh has a large population in a small area, so the groundwater taken by us is not enough. Furthermore there is arsenic poisoning in our groundwater. Even if we do not have groundwater poisoning, we cant take out too much water as it cause bangladesh's water table to fall and cause bd to sink.

You are true to say that bd has lot of water resources, but you must remember these resources comes flowing from india. If india stops this flow too much, it will mean trouble for us