RAFALE'S MINI ENCYLOPEDIA FOR IT'S FANBOYZ

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Typhoon Rafale cons: the test of reality

By William Steuer

No doubt, the "Rafale bashing" practice of disparaging the virtues of the French fighter, is still current in Britain. The latest example: in its latest edition, the Eurofighter World magazine, published by the industry consortium, do not hesitate to say (once again) that during several simulated air combat (DACT), the Typhoon emerged "almost every time" with "significantly higher performance."

The assertion is free and non-argued. At most makers of Eurofighter confine themselves to quote an Air Force pilot Italian who had "recently" the chance to oppose in combat beyond visual range (BVR) to Rafale in the Tyrrhenian Sea. In the episode in question, are Rafale M that have been implicated in early 2012. Sailors and would tend to moderate the enthusiasm Italian, recalling that "Pk" (direct hit probabilities) used for calculating Amraam shots are much more permissive than those of Mica ... Certainly, the French pilots recognize that, pending the RBE2-EASA, the Typhoon's radar is higher than that of the Rafale in air to air. But to declare a total superiority of the Eurofighter in BVR fight, there is a big step that the French crews refuse to cross, strengthened by their experiences against the European aircraft.

What about the RAF? The past year has really dated pitted two fighters was in September 2009. A Solenzara, the Rafale's EC-1/7 "Provence" inflict a correction in final gun fight (BFM) to British Typhoon. Appraisal: a defeat for nine wins, and yet it was it recorded by a young driver Rafale. Soon after, clashes beyond visual range (BVR) two against two give results broadly supportive Rafale, according to French pilots who participated in the clashes.

Fingers burned, the RAF has refused during any confrontation. During the recent visit of two Typhoon in Saint-Dizier, in early March, the British pilots refused outright to oppose the Rafale. And on May 11, scheduled a visit to the Rafale on the basis of Coningsby, the RAF has indicated that none of its four squadrons Typhoon would be available to drive ... By the way, this refusal to hire n has not prevented the British airmen to continue their work of "Rafale bashing" in 2011, up to say to the press during Operation Harmattan that French hunters were unable to light their own targets with the Damocles pod . Bad faith with the will swear significantly reconciliation put forward by the staffs of both sides of the Channel.
Below, a Typhoon in the HUD of a Rafale "Air".

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[The enlightened]

What's up with the third picture?
Seems like it was shot in Gootan

 

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"Rafale : best choice for the Indian Air Force"; NationShield, May 2012.

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Combat aircraft: the war is restarted

This is the story of a resurrection. After two decades of commercial flops, the Rafale from Dassault Aviation is poised to win the contract of the century in India.
Looks like the British humor, this subtle blend of awkwardness and false second degree. Questioned by the "Financial Times" on February 7, the very serious Ian King acted as if the Rafale had not prevailed over Typhoon in the tender Indian concluded eight days earlier. "In my view, all options remain on the table," dropped the head of the British defense giant mégacontrat of about 126 combat aircraft, estimated at $ 12 billion.

He added, look like much: "I will soon talk to my partner in the Eurofighter consortium, the Franco-German EADS (which owns 41%) and Italy's Finmeccanica (26%)." 'Nobody' is fooled, says a close case. After being selected by the Indian state to enter into exclusive negotiations, Dassault Aviation is likely to sign the deal before December. "

Less than an ultimate ruse of history it would be finished by the curse of the Rafale. Twenty-seven years after its presentation at the headquarters of St. Cloud, the flying toy of the late Marcel Dassault has finally found his first real client other than the French army. And what a buyer! With this order, India is poised to sign the largest contract in the history of military aviation. Not to mention a second tranche in the study from 64 to 74 aircraft.

Result: the Rafale again raises the interest of potential buyers. Brazil, who were promised the purchase of 36 units in 2010, dispatched his defense minister in New Delhi to reconsider the powers of the French fighter. Abu Dhabi, including Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed deplored "the non-competitive trading conditions and impassable Dassault Aviation" last November, is about to receive a delegation from the manufacturer.

The military in Malaysia, right puzzle on replacing their old MiG-29russes, they pinch for French manufacturing. "The good news is as trouble, they fly in Flight", tells how to Audiard our defense minister, Gerard Longuet, which evoked even early December "the cessation of production."

In fact, until now, the history of exporting the Rafale was like an endless swoop, where the French technical superiority crashed against the U.S. trade diplomacy.

Whenever thought Dassault Aviation landing his first contract, teams of Boeing (F-15 and F-18) or Lockheed Martin (F-16 and F-35) reminded the Frenchies the harsh rules of realpolitik way business. The Netherlands and South Korea (2002), Singapore (2005) and even in our Moroccan friends (2007), they are the ones who always ended up winning.

In Seoul, President George Bush was so moved by person to the article from the local authorities. What caused this press despite Dassault signed: "The U.S. gives weight again due to the Chinese proverb. Bamboo always leans towards decelui that grows stronger. "

And if at least the U.S. administration had agreed to allow the crumbs to French ... Loupé: they were soon picked up by the Eurofighter consortium or by the Swedish Saab to the image of the 22 Gripen ordered by Switzerland in December .

In a report submitted to the Minister of Defense Helvetian, Ueli Maurer, that Capital was able to consult, the pilots felt however that this low-cost fighter, nicknamed "the plane Ikea," not reached "the minimum capacity required "to accomplish the police mission in the air. "For ten years, the Americans lead an undermining work on" everything but the Rafale, "says the entourage of Charles Edelstenne, the CEO of Dassault Aviation. The interest of India shows that the cards can be reshuffled. "

Let indeed unpatriotic Primary flight controls with its fiber, its active antenna radar capable of tracking 40 aircraft simultaneously and 3:15 to 150 nautical autonomy of a base, the Rafale is the best hunter on the market.

The Helvetians are not perhaps not realized, but this semi-stealth aircraft is a real Swiss Army knife: it can carry out interception missions, reconnaissance, attack ground, sea and air, the all with nuclear weapons. At the Air Tactical Leadership Course (DPAC), an international competition held in the UAE in 2009, he even stood up to F-22, the wonder of the U.S. military banned from export.

In six simulations, the Rafale was "shot" once for five draws. The Americans also refused seventh fight. Not to mention the F-35, presented as his future rival: this project combines both of delays and cost overruns that Senator John McCain's plans would simply stop.

But it is in Libya that the French fighter showed the full extent of its capabilities. A real advertising campaign for the Rafale, this operation Harmattan. From the first day of the war, March 19, they have literally walked over enemy territory. Then, according to our information, were able to fit eight Scalp cruise missiles during the night of March 23 to 24.

In total, early September, the Rafale had carried out 850 attacks. "This aircraft has proven he walked frankly better than its competitors in a theater of operations", says General Jean Rannou, former head of the Air Force. Convincing history of Indian officials, to say the least concerned about the threat to their Pakistani border, the emissaries of Dassault would not hesitate to submit videos of their Libyan raids.

Still had to agree on the price. On this subject classified defense secrets, the manufacturer teams seem to have made considerable efforts. Of course, officially, the Rafale is roughly the same as a Typhoon when the Court of Auditors assesses the first to 142.3 million euros, its British counterpart to the second estimated 150 million. But in reality, the negotiations are proving extremely complex: the only documentation prior to the tender would fill a gymnasium. Especially, the buyer has an invincible weapon to bring down prices: once the total amount established, it requires the maximum "offsets", these direct and indirect counterparties that can reach over 60% of the contract price .

And some were surprising. "As part of the 15 Mirage 2000-5 bought in Athens in 2000, the works of Dassault Aviation has long offered trips to Greece through local tour operators," recalls one Thales, the specialist electronics.

No trips to Rajasthan this time, but significant transfers of technology. On this issue yet, Dassault Aviation has the art of letting fantasies run. We know: in principle, only the first 18 Rafale will be manufactured in France, while the following must be 108 by the Indian aerospace giant, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).

But the truth is William Lecompte-Boinet in "Air and Cosmos," this national champion "must first prove he can make complete sub-assemblies and final réaliserl'assemblage a Rafale made in India."

A delicate mission. While some land near Bangalore has been selected to host the future range, there is no guarantee that HAL will reach to producing the next four years.

"Indianized version of the Sukhoi Su-30MKI Russian, signed in 2000, is still not left the factory," says a subcontractor to Dassault, before adding: "But you never hear or Edelstenne pronounce Sarkozy such derogatory remarks. "It's true that we are still being negotiated exclusive ...

Versatile and semi-stealth: to 142 million euros, the Rafale has no equivalent

Software for data fusion
Designed by Dassault Aviation and fully integrated weapons system, this program can retrieve information from all sensors, then provide the pilot with immediate synthesis phase of shooting.

A range of 3:15 in combat
With six air-to-air Mica and additional tanks, the Rafale can ensure such a long mission protecting a G20. The Typhoon has a range of 2:30, the F-18 2-hour 25 and 1 hour 20 Gripen.

A control system worthy of a video game
This is a specialty of Dassault Aviation, recognized worldwide for its expertise in this area. The FBW fiber provide the Rafale maneuverability and responsiveness without comparison.

An active antenna radar RBE2-EASA
Developed by Thales, this machine is capable of tracking 40 aircraft and engage in 8 simultaneously. Electronic scanning ensures at the same time monitoring and detection of ground targets on land or sea.

Rivals: the European Typhoon, two U.S. fighters and a low-cost Swedish

Typhoon: Produced by the Eurofighter consortium, this remains a fighter aircraft with air-air and its active antenna radar still suffers delay.

F-18: The marvel of Boeing remains the most serious competitor of the Rafale. Australia has ordered 24 in 2007.

F-35: Still in development phase, the stealth fighter at Lockheed Martin combines the delays. His concern: it is too heavy to carry air to air combat.

Gripen: The Swedish aircraft ... is unbeatable on price. At 80 million euros each, the fighter nicknamed "the plane Ikea" has no other advantages.

Tens of Rafale are under negotiation or will be:

Kuwait: 14
The negotiations dragged on since 2009. The decision of Abu Dhabi could snowball.

Malaysia: 18
Malaysian soldiers want to replace their old MiG-29 Russian-made.

Switzerland: 22
Suspicions of corruption could soon challenge the choice of Sweden's Saab.

India: 126
Dassault has been selected to enter exclusive ennégociation. Signing expected before December.

Abu Dhabi: 60
Dassault after staying away in November, the Crown Prince seems ready to change his mind.

Brazil: 36
Two years after the true-false command Rafale by Lula, the countries relaunch the tender.

Qatar: 24
Command of the Air Force wants to replace its fleet of Mirage 2000-5 from the 1990s.

Stages of negotiation to $ 12 billion:

1. The request for information: Known RFI (Request for Information), this first step allows the recipient country to review market conditions to identify their needs.

2. The Request for Proposal: Three to six months after the RFI, the acquirer sends an RFP (Request for Proposal). Applicants should include specific proposals and costed.

3. The competition finalists: Two to five successful proposals. The country then negotiates the price step by step and counterparties ("offsets"), as technology transfer.

4. Exclusive negotiations: The winner estannoncé. But the country will still skimp with him the details of regulation and technology transfer. With the other finalists in ambush.

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[Abingdonboy]

No idea what they are saying but shows Chinese are taking notice:

 

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Indian Air Force Chief Flies Rafale In France

Photo 1 Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, Chief of the Air Staff after a one hour sortie in the Rafale Aircraft at St. Dizier Airbase. Also seen in the picture are commandant (Squadron Leader) Kubiak Thierry, Commander of the Rafale Squadron and General Jean-Paul Paloméros, Chief of Staff of the French Air Force.

Photo 2 Air Chief Marshal NAK Browne, Chief of the Air Staff after a one hour sortie in the Rafale Aircraft at St. Dizier Airbase. Also seen in the picture are commandant (Squadron Leader) Kubiak Thierry, Commander of the Rafale Squadron and General Jean-Paul Paloméros, Chief of Staff of the French Air Force.

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BRAZIL'S FX2 COMPETITION FROM COMBAT AIRCRAFT MONTHLY JULY 2012

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[Abingdonboy]

^^ strange, no reference to the Indian MMRCA.

 

[sancho]

^^ strange, no reference to the Indian MMRCA.

That's possibly because the report is basically a sumary of older news and facts about the Brazilian competition and nothing new. However, their decision today is purley political now and not based on these infos anymore, because the competition was done some years ago, while the final selection was delayed and delayed.
They want the Rafale and all advantages that comes with it in strategic terms, but as the Swiss, they can't afford large numbers currently and trying to reduce the costs somehow. Recent reports said, that they want a similar price as we get, which Dassault obviously only provide if higher numbers will be ordered, also there is the plan to develop joint logistics for Brazil and India, although that again favours them more than us.
The problems with ToT from the US, as well as the recent rejection of Embraers Tucano for US forces will be a big downer for Boeings F18SH, while Saab plays the underdog again.

 

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Post F3O4T
No upgrades beyond F3O4T have been funded, and IGA Stéphane Reb, the Rafale program manager at the Direction Générale de l’Armement (DGA), the French Procurement Agency has pointed to the need for a roadmap going forward, implying that there isn’t one at the moment.

Such a roadmap could include the integration of the laser-guided version of the Sagem Armement Air-Sol Modulaire (AASM), and of the 1,000-kg variant, and of a version with an upgraded IIR sensor with algorithms for naval targeting and moving target targeting while the MBDA Meteor will be integrated in 2018. The roadmap is expected to include the development and integration of new low collateral damage kinetic bombs; as well as the development and integration of a new, more powerful Thales laser designation pod (Damocles NG???). It would also cover OSF-NG, the adoption of additional modes for the Thales RBE2/AA AESA radar, upgrades to the Link 16 MIDS and electronic warfare improvements for Spectra, as well as a MODE 5 compliant IFF and SATCOM. Some sources suggest that the Reco-NG is expected to gain target extraction capabilities in the future.

Other elements have already been brought forward for earlier integration including GBU-49 EPW II and the Damocles XF LDP.

There have been suggestions that a suppression of enemy air defense (SEAD) capability could be added, together with electronic attack functions and perhaps a towed radar decoy, which is perceived as offering added protection albeit with some loss of maneuverability. Rafale already has a rudimentary SEAD capability with Spectra's geolocation capability and the AASM.

There are a number of ongoing DGA study plans (PEAs, or plan d'etudes amont) that will affect the Rafale.

These will be similar to the recent ECO and DASIGL PEAs, which resulted in the CGP pack for the M88-4E engine and the SBU-64 laser AASM respectively.

The MASTRID (Multicontext Airborne System for Targetting, Recognition and Identification) PEA is intended to allow SPECTRA to detect and locate targets with sufficient accuracy to allow an improved Damocles XF pod to be slewed onto it, and to thenm engage the target with an SBU-54 IIR AASM. with a new visible way with zoom and improved infrared module. The Damocles XF will offer a new data link and an enhanced identification system. XF is supposed to be avalaible in 2012, with Damocles NG following later.

A new digital HUD is being developed under the DETENAA (DÉveloppement de TEchnologies Nouvelles pour Avions d’Armes) PEA. This was demonstrated at the Paris Air Salon at Le Bourget in 2011.

The DEDIRA – (Demonstrateur de Discretion Rafale) PEA aims to
reduce Rafale's RCS with both passive and active measures, including an improved air intake design, NG RAM material, and a ‘Stealth Cocoon’ to allow semi-conformal weapons carriage.
In progress

The INCAS (INtegration de nouvelles CApacités a Spectra) PEA is intended to give SPECTRA improved detection and jamming, and will see GaN TR modules replacing GaaS modules in the RBE2 radar and SPECTRA. Work has been ongoing since 2009.

MLU
A major mid-life update (equivalent in scope to the F-16 MLU) is tentatively scheduled for around 2020-2025, when the aircraft will start running out of processing capability. The upgrade will improve stealth, survivability and capability, though no specific measures or features have yet been defined.

Rafale NG, F4 or MLU?

There could be RCS improvements, Conformal Fuel Tanks (CFTs), SATCOM, and a UCAV control system, as well as a new DIRCM compatible IR MAWS.

There could also be radar improvements – perhaps with extra conformal arrays for the AESA to increase the coverage in azimuth.

There is still no indication of a possible HMD.

There could be a new engine (the more powerful M88-3), and/or the incorporation of Thrust Vector Control.


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Day airbase Mont-de-Marsan Day airbase Mont-de-Marsan

An air show will be held from 14 to 17.30 during which the aircraft will succeed: Alphajet of the Patrouille de France, Rafale, Mirage 2000N, C135 tanker, or the Extra 330 aerobatic team, helicopters. Paratroopers of the Air Force and aircraft of the Army will also complement this table.

The middle of the aircraft is not limited to demonstrations in the air. 00 at 11 am, aircraft enthusiasts and new audiences will have the opportunity to admire many aircraft stationed, to attend police dog demonstrations and presentations of weapons systems, to participate in many fun booths or still playing aspiring pilots in simulators embarking aboard ... For the lucky, boarding a guaranteed first flight.

Before the opening festivities, a concert of music from the Air Force will be held Friday, June 1, 2012 to Marsan's cultural center in Saint-Pierre-du-Mont at 20:30. Free admission by reservation.

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Tiger, Tiger…

May 28 to June 8, 2012, the growl squads, wearing a tiger as its emblem, affects the air base in Norway Oerland hosting the NATO Tiger Meet 2012.


The fighter squadron and experiments 5/330 "Silver Coast" of the air base 118 of Mont-de-Marsan and the ground air defense squadron (EDSA) 1/950 "Crau" base Istres Air 125 reinforced by EDSA Avord, Luxeuil, Saint-Dizier and Mont-de-Marsan participate in this international exercise. A delegation from the Fighter Squadron (EC) 1/7 "Provence", managing the traditions of the SPA 162 "Tiger" since the dissolution of the EC 1/12 "Cambrai" is also there.

Air assets (fifty aircraft) are deployed on the airbase Oerland while the means-aircraft are stationed at the site of Hjerkinn. Thirteen nations were present for the 2012 year otanien (Germany, Belgium, USA, France, Hungary, Italy, Norway, Netherlands, Poland, Czech Republic, UK, Switzerland and Turkey).

The main objective of the exercise is to train crews in the preparation and execution of complex missions like COMAO (Combined Air Operations - Combined Air Operations), CAS (Close Air Support - close air support), or extraction of nationals by integrating special forces and means of CSAR (Combat Search and Rescue - Search and rescue in combat).

From a tactical level, the exercise is conducted in an international context and prepared jointly by all participating units. The scenarios cover all spectrums of the third dimension. Realistic and scalable, they are systematically associated with many threats to-air and air to ground. Working in joint patrols is preferred to improve interoperability between nations. Moreover, the interaction between air and ground platforms, thanks to the link 16 in particular, has systematically sought.

The complexity of these combat missions provide an opportunity to pilot the "Silver Coast" to draw many conclusions about the new capabilities provided by the Rafale F3 standard.

The device of air defense also benefits from aeronautical activities dense and the international context to train its personnel in a realistic setting. The NATO Tiger Meet 2012 EDSA offers the possibility to realize for the first time a connection link 11 B between a Norwegian and an automated tactical cell French.

The permanent exchange performed in English also bring added value to the 93 airmen indisputable (26 officers) of the French detachment.

The tradition is still required in this gathering otanien. This is despite the complexity of tasks performed. At the close of the event, an awards ceremony will reward the units that have distinguished themselves during this period.

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Enemy Brothers
Air&Cosmos - June 2010

Since birth, both were scheduled to compete. The wrestling (commercial) which has now engaged the Eurofighter Typhoon and the Rafale on the international scene has its roots in the early 80s, while Europe is seriously considering a joint development of a new multinational European fighter aircraft. France, United Kingdom and Germany are the main actors in a drama that will last many years. These last two countries, which have already collaborated in the Panavia consortium for the development of the Tornado are looking to replace a portion of their tactical fleet. For its part, France is trying, too, to have a fighter that can replace almost all of its combat aircraft. But from the beginning, the situation appears complex, whereas the English call for an air superiority aircraft class 11-12 tonnes, Paris argues for a device of only 9 tons. Moreover, the problems of industrial shares weigh down the prospects of cooperation including France, whose aeronautical companies ardently defend their plans to support the maintenance of their skills. In 1985, France announced it will develop alone its future combat aircraft. For their part, the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy and Spain will start the Eurofighter program. While France wants to start building a really multirole aircraft, the nations in the Eurofighter consortium finance the development of a superiority aircraft, designed for air to air combat. To date yet, the 'Typhoon has only very limited air-ground capabilities compared with the Rafale.

More thrust for the Typhoon

On paper, the Typhoon has some undeniable advantages: more powerful than M88, its two reactors give it a better weight/thrust than the Rafale. According to the Eurofighter pilots, this additional power would be particularly appreciable during simulated combat below 20,000 ft, where the density of air allows the engines to be fully expressed. In the battle beyond visual range (BVR), the Typhoon also has an greater "extension" than the Rafale. This is because of the the physical characteristics of the radar, which antenna "sees" futher than the RBE2-PESA, but also because of the dynamic performance of the American missile AIM-120 AMRAAM . Designed exclusively for medium-range interception, it certainly does not have the versatility of the Mica, but it is superior in terms of range. Facing a Rafale, these theoretical advantages, however, must be nuanced.
In BVR combat, although the lengthening of the radar and missiles of the Typhoon are superior, the french Rafale fighter's radar signature is, according to many pilots, much less important than the Eurofighter's one. It is therefore an asset. Even better: the sensors fusion which enjoys the Rafale is also a crucial advantage in BVR combat, because it offers the pilots a much better understanding of the tactical situation during combat, and this, 360 degrees around the aircraft.
Once the "merge" is reached (when BVR combat turns into short-range), the Rafale has still strong chances of victory against the Typhoon. In the opinion of French pilots who have confronted the European aircraft, it's above all the quality of the electric flight controls [FBW] of the French fighter who makes the difference. In dogfight, Rafale can quickly point its nose to the threat, while less degrading its energy than the Eurofighter does. And this partly because the maximum angle of attack of the Rafale is "clamped" around 300, which allows it to evolve in a controlled manner even at low speed.
This difference in terms of maneuverability is also illustrated by the position of the canard on the two planes: placed well in front of the fuselage on the Typhoon, they play the role of an additional control surface used to "steer" more quickly the nose of the plane to take the incidence.
Conversely, the Rafale ducks are located very near the delta wing and are used primarily to pick up the airflow to slow up the loss of lift on the wing, thus giving the pilot a full control of the aircraft at low speeds.

A first indisputable skirmish

The Armée de l' Air has been able to experience this superiority in dogfight in September 2009, during an exercise organized by the French and British headquarters, during a deployment on the Solenzara airbase in Corsica .
Few days , the EC-1/7 stands next with the Royal Air Force transformation squadron on typhoons. The English have thought of everything, and introduce to the French pilots the simulated engagement patterns they wish to practice facing the Rafale. The French pilots push back a smile: the conditions of the exercice are, on paper, custom-made for the Typhoons , they plan within visual range fights , 1 vs 1, under 20,000 ft and at 350 knots. Whatever. The 'Provence' squadron takes up the gauntlet ... The 2 planes take off, then meet up at 18 000 ft to start the exercise. The aircraft are flying on the same trajectory with about 2 km of lateral separation. "Turn Away" with this announcement, the pilots turn 45 ° outward, to move away from each other. A few seconds later, the "turn in" and the planes turn toward each other to meet face-to-face in the sky. Once both aircraft is within visual range , its the ultimate ad: "Fight's on!". The first skirmish is indisputable. It need less than 40 seconds and only 3 crossing for the Rafale pilot to have its gun in firing position. However, the pilots flying the two planes are far from beginners. While the English is considered a Typhoon specialist in air-to-air, the "Provence" pilot has also a solid experience in within visual range combat.

Nine wins, one defeat

This initial result is not a fluke: the two next passes end also to the advantage of the Rafale. In total, 4 different engagements will take place in Corsica, for a total of 9 wins against 1 defeat for the french fighter. A nice demonstration of force that inspires the pilots the following moral: without mastery, power is nothing ... It is however an area where the Typhoon is victorious: the one of exports. While the Rafale is still looking for a first client, the Typhoon has already been sold to Saudi Arabia and Austria, and remains opposed to the Rafale in Switzerland and India.

a typhoon in trouble

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