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[FLIR]

itna to abhinonedone ko nahi pata ho ga jitna @Suriya ko pata hai vir chakra to suriya bahi ko milna chaiye kiyun bhai log.

 

[Path-Finder]

itna to abhinonedone ko nahi pata ho ga jitna @Suriya ko pata hai vir chakra to suriya bahi ko milna chaiye kiyun bhai log.

he deserves 2 including the one abby got.

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

you can also hear the sound of it's going down in this video shot at Khuiratta ,Azad kashmir.

And could you please elaborate how does a fighter sound like going down?

 

[drunken-monke]

We Indians wear negative rating at PDF as stars on uniform.. We don't mind it..

 

[Amigator]

Evidence 8: The puff, a parachute & a piece of debris
The journey of the PAF aircraft after being hit by the R-73 is captured in video No. 4 called Khuiratta, available here.

Captured by an amateur who would have reacted at least 10 seconds after hearing the twin thuds post the ‘puff’ event and spotting the scene unfolding — this is taken near the town of Khuiratta in Azad Kashmir. The observer is capturing the aerial component of the video and looking on course 220–250 degrees, which confirms with the angle of the Sun at that time.

This video provides the chain of events between the ‘puff’ and the ‘Tadpole’ — capturing the impact point ‘puff’ (which appears momentarily at 1:14 in the video) and after that, details the fall of a debris from the PAF aircraft and a parachute coming down.

The Khuiratta video, though mostly shows the debris piece and the parachute, also momentarily shows a glimpse of the puff
If we take a close-up look and compare the puff seen in the Khuiratta video, we see that it’s the same event seen in the Charhoi video.

The ‘puff’ recorded in the Khuiratta and Charhoi videos are nearly identical
The geotagging and Google Earth scene matching of the observer’s position was done by @bishwa55900127, which is shown as below.

Scene build-up from the Khuiratta video | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127
The location of the Khuiratta observer is at 33°14’13.82″N, 73° 54’25.29″E

Next we calculate the distance to the various objects seen and their direction lines. Here @bishwa55900127 has done the math well.

The montage of linked images shows the complete scene in the video | @bishwa55900127
The montage of linked images shows the complete scene in the video. The highest entity seen in the video is the ‘puff’, which may be around 25,000 feet AMSL. Mostly we see a parachute and a partial debris falling towards the earth. What is interesting to note is that these (puff-parachute-debris) appear to be on a near line.

Puff line: 33°22’9.96″N, 74° 0’23.89″E to 33°17’27.90″N, 73°52’47.01″E
Debris line: 33°22’9.96″N, 74° 0’23.89″E to 33°20’32.56″N, 73°51’4.00″E
Parachute line: 33°22’9.96″N, 74° 0’23.89″E to 33°20’15.53″N, 73°51’10.37″E

The distance of the puff from the observer is around 11 km (with the aircraft at 25,000 feet AMSL). The debris falling is a piece of the aircraft and NOT the complete aircraft.
The various inferences are:

1. The ‘puff’ or a missile impact is clearly seen from two different locations. In the Khuiratta video we have assumed that the observer starts to record 10 seconds after hearing the twin thuds from the R-73 explosion.
2. In the video — we see a low rate of descent object falling — which can only be a parachute.
3. There is a displaced gap between the ‘puff’ and the parachute and the debris. The approx distance between them is calculated as 6 km. It also indicates that the pilot ejected after a ‘delay’ post the initial impact at the ‘puff’.
4. The debris falling with a high rate of descent in this video is a ‘partial’ debris piece from the aircraft, having detached from the aircraft. This debris, will be the largest part of the aircraft still intact, especially in light of the fact that most of the airframe would have burnt during the Tadpole formation in the next phase— being seen to fall from the sky without any major fire.
5. We still cannot see the aircraft in the video.

Why can’t this be the MiG-21 crashing?
It is not — because both aircraft crashes, are TWO distinct and DIFFERENT shoot-downs — each exhibiting a characteristic conveying the manner in which they were shot down.

Abhinandan’s crashing MiG (left) vs the PAF jet crash (right)

The Khuiratta video shows the parachute of a PAF fighter pilot, as well as a part of the debris falling after the ‘puff’ event — cementing the fact that there indeed is a ‘Doosra Banda’ in this very intriguing episode.

It also gives us a clue that in all probability, the PAF aircraft which crashed was a single-seater, unless for some reason in a twin-seater — the other pilot was not able to eject out.

Combining the observation lines from all 3 videos

Combined chart of the various observation lines from various locations
The combination of the observation lines from all three videos from the puff to Tadpole formation stage, will help us zero down on the approximate landing zones of the PAF parachute, the falling piece of debris, as well as the Tadpole formation zone.

What we don’t have is the altitude of the PAF jet when it was hit? Also, what was its speed and related parameters? A combination of these inputs, will give us near accurate points on the observation lines as shown above. This would help resolve the investigation into the subject in the most logical manner.

For this, we will need to go back to the time — when Abhinandan crossed over into Azad Kashmir around 1020 hours.

‘MiG-21 vs F-16’
Reconstructing the AIR COMBAT ENGAGEMENT over Azad Kashmir between 1020 to 1045 hours

Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman crossed over to Azad Kashmir sometime after 1020 hours, flying at 0.9 Mach at an altitude of 15,000 feet. He spotted targets on his Kopyo radar in search mode at 30–35 km, higher at 30–35,000 feet. He switched to close combat (CC) mode on course 290 (deg) and sweeped (cover a specified Field of View from the nose) the area ahead to pick anything closer. He was climbing. His approximate position is as shown in the radar picture shared by the Indian Air Force.

IAF Radar Situation Map | Image : by special arrangement

IAF Image superimposed on a map | Image: By special arrangement
Abhinandan was callsign ‘Alpha-1’. At this stage his No. 2 (Alpha-2) had turned back and was back in Indian territory.

Coincidentally, the PAF Barrier Combat Air Patrol (BARCAP) at that time, may also have had the call sign ‘Alpha’.

Tens of minutes before that 2 x 4 aircraft F-16 formations (total 8 aircraft) of 9 Sqn (Griffins) and 29 Sqn- CCS (Aggressors), both from Sargodha AFB had performed Offensive Counter Air (OCA) Missions at the LoC, where they had fired 4–5 AIM-120C-5 missiles against IAF Su-30MKIs, claiming a Su-30MKI kill. Two formations (C/S Bravo & Charlie) had fallen back around 1017 hours and the third (Alpha) now formed the BARCAP in depth. These were controlled by a Saab ERIEYE AEW&C aircraft, Callsign — ‘Vigil’. Alpha 1–4 (all probably from 29 Sqn-CCS) were the 4 x F-16s which the IAF radar picture showed.

According to sources in the IAF, the call sign of the aircraft which went down in Azad Kashmir that day was ‘Alpha-3’. This is according to PAF’s R/T intercept, wherein after this sharp engagement, Callsign Alpha-3, never responded back on any communication channel.


Initial Situation Map based the shared IAF data
As Abhinandan was looking for targets in CC mode, he got a missile seeker head lock. Important to note, it was not a radar assisted Lock, but a missile head Lock — which picked up a heat emitting target out to 30 km within its 30 deg field of view.

Abhinandan fired his missile while on course 280 at 20,000 feet, turning northwards and finally settling down on an eastern heading towards Jhangar in J&K for a getaway.

So this is all bullshit your Sena Journal shows to RSS Kanjars and they starts scratching their heads and see blank faces in room and says "Taliyan, Taliyan, Gay Hind!"

 

[Suriya]

You should do a similar one for the JFK assassination. You have a great future in conspiracy theory writing.

It's written by Sameer Joshi who is an ex IAF pilot.

What he is trying to say is very simple to understand,


1.These are two videos of a jet going down on 27th feb.

2. Geotag and google maps of the terrain seen in the videos giveaways their locations as Charhoi and Khuiratta in Azad Kashmir

4. Also if anyone thinks it was mig 21, then you must know where Mig21 crashed and where Charhoi is located.

 

[Ultima Thule]

It's written by Sameer Joshi who is an ex IAF pilot.

What he is trying to say is very simple to understand,


1.These are two videos of a jet going down on 27th feb.

2. Geotag and google maps of the terrain seen in the videos giveaways their locations as Charhoi and Khuiratta in Azad Kashmir

4. Also if anyone thinks it was mig 21, then you must know where Mig21 crashed and where Charhoi is located.

it could be MKI that would went down in IOK @Suriya

 

[Suriya]

And could you please elaborate how does a fighter sound like going down?

watch the video and listen to what's being said in it.

 

[ColonelSanders]

It's written by Sameer Joshi who is an ex IAF pilot.

What he is trying to say is very simple to understand,


1.These are two videos of a jet going down on 27th feb.

2. Geotag and google maps of the terrain seen in the videos giveaways their locations as Charhoi and Khuiratta in Azad Kashmir

4. Also if anyone thinks it was mig 21, then you must know where Mig21 crashed and where Charhoi is located.

I know for a fact that because of expensive data packages and to conserve battery life, most people in Pakistan keep location services off. But somehow you managed to get geolocations from both videos. Bravo

 

[Suriya]

it could be MKI that would went down in IOK @Suriya

Geotag and google maps of the terrain seen in the videos giveaways their locations as Charhoi and Khuiratta in Azad Kashmir

 

[Ultima Thule]

So why even after all these days, PAF and government hiding that proof of SU30 MKI

It fell in your Kashmir, we have no satellite to proof, and i am software engineer/web designer working in USA i will present better radar image then IAF radar image which present as proof @drunken-monke

 

[Suriya]

I know for a fact that because of expensive data packages and to conserve battery life, most people in Pakistan keep location services off. But somehow you managed to get geolocations from both videos. Bravo

Charhoi video

Geotagging and finding the location of the observer took a while since the origin was unknown. However, two images in the video do provide us a clue to the location — a mobile tower and a building with a water tank, both located in the vicinity. The observer is on the building with the water tank. The scene matching with GE was done by @bennedose & @bishwa55900127, who were able to pin point the location well.

The video scenes matched to Google Earth | @bennedose

Observer’s location & scene matching in the video | Credits @bennedose
The location of the Charhoi building is at 33°18’29.17″N 73°57’25.38″E. Its elevation is aprox 2,900 feet AMSL. Using maths and related thumb rules, the Tadpole near Charhoi was 3,000–4,000 feet above the observer, or 2,900 + 3,500 (avg)= 6,500 feet AMSL. Means that the Charhoi observer saw the Tadpole at a slightly later stage than as seen from Thanamandi. In fact, towards the end in the Charhoi video, one can see that the Tadpole starts to marginally disintegrate.

Khuiratta video
The geotagging and Google Earth scene matching of the observer’s position was done by @bishwa55900127, which is shown as below.

Scene build-up from the Khuiratta video | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127
The location of the Khuiratta observer is at 33°14’13.82″N, 73° 54’25.29″E

Next we calculate the distance to the various objects seen and their direction lines. Here @bishwa55900127 has done the math well.

The montage of linked images shows the complete scene in the video | @bishwa55900127

 

[Ultima Thule]

Geotag and google maps of the terrain seen in the videos giveaways their locations as Charhoi and Khuiratta in Azad Kashmir

And its just plumes of debris going down what is the proof that it could be F-16, and F-16 has a BVR that have a better range then R-77 on board on your IAF Mig-21, then tell me how its possible if our F-16 has better BVR compare to your MIG-21 and come close to IAF MIG-21 for dogfight @Suriya

Charhoi video

Geotagging and finding the location of the observer took a while since the origin was unknown. However, two images in the video do provide us a clue to the location — a mobile tower and a building with a water tank, both located in the vicinity. The observer is on the building with the water tank. The scene matching with GE was done by @bennedose & @bishwa55900127, who were able to pin point the location well.

The video scenes matched to Google Earth | @bennedose

Observer’s location & scene matching in the video | Credits @bennedose
The location of the Charhoi building is at 33°18’29.17″N 73°57’25.38″E. Its elevation is aprox 2,900 feet AMSL. Using maths and related thumb rules, the Tadpole near Charhoi was 3,000–4,000 feet above the observer, or 2,900 + 3,500 (avg)= 6,500 feet AMSL. Means that the Charhoi observer saw the Tadpole at a slightly later stage than as seen from Thanamandi. In fact, towards the end in the Charhoi video, one can see that the Tadpole starts to marginally disintegrate.

Khuiratta video
The geotagging and Google Earth scene matching of the observer’s position was done by @bishwa55900127, which is shown as below.

Scene build-up from the Khuiratta video | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127
The location of the Khuiratta observer is at 33°14’13.82″N, 73° 54’25.29″E

Next we calculate the distance to the various objects seen and their direction lines. Here @bishwa55900127 has done the math well.

The montage of linked images shows the complete scene in the video | @bishwa55900127

This prove nothing, and what is you trying to prove @Suriya

 

[ColonelSanders]

Charhoi video

Geotagging and finding the location of the observer took a while since the origin was unknown. However, two images in the video do provide us a clue to the location — a mobile tower and a building with a water tank, both located in the vicinity. The observer is on the building with the water tank. The scene matching with GE was done by @bennedose & @bishwa55900127, who were able to pin point the location well.

The video scenes matched to Google Earth | @bennedose

Observer’s location & scene matching in the video | Credits @bennedose
The location of the Charhoi building is at 33°18’29.17″N 73°57’25.38″E. Its elevation is aprox 2,900 feet AMSL. Using maths and related thumb rules, the Tadpole near Charhoi was 3,000–4,000 feet above the observer, or 2,900 + 3,500 (avg)= 6,500 feet AMSL. Means that the Charhoi observer saw the Tadpole at a slightly later stage than as seen from Thanamandi. In fact, towards the end in the Charhoi video, one can see that the Tadpole starts to marginally disintegrate.

Khuiratta video
The geotagging and Google Earth scene matching of the observer’s position was done by @bishwa55900127, which is shown as below.

Scene build-up from the Khuiratta video | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127

Credit | @bishwa55900127
The location of the Khuiratta observer is at 33°14’13.82″N, 73° 54’25.29″E

Next we calculate the distance to the various objects seen and their direction lines. Here @bishwa55900127 has done the math well.

The montage of linked images shows the complete scene in the video | @bishwa55900127

Now that you have spent so much time to make you dream come true, let me ask you a simple question......


Are you an idiot?

Scaling for comparison in above photos is all wrong. And what does aprox.. mean? How do you know the actual size of the so called tadpole? It could be a bigger cloud that looks smaller just because of distance.

I think send this ex iaf idiot to Malaysia. Maybe he can help them find mh370 using his skills

 

[mingle]

A more important question is ECCM environment in which all these engagements took place. Remember, MKI's massively powerful radar was unable to provide pilot a firing solution due to dense ECM/Jamming from Pak force multipliers. Now, here we have a much smaller Mig-21, who was able to hit a F-16 under same environment. What these Indians are trying to proof; Has Mig-21 more advanced ECCM capabilities than MKI? IF so, why their air chief is complaining that they have to fly a 44 years old plane??

Dhona knows his force capabilities he doesn't want fight blinking already and openly.