Punjab bans dancing at school events

[Enigma_]

No, Sir. The country is heading exactly where it wants to go. It is their right.

Of course it is their right. But people wanting to go in a certain direction doesn't mean it is the right one. But this country fails to learn and it'll pay dearly in time as always.

 

[PAKjunoon]

Manners and social values . Hmmmm...
I guess you're right 7 year olds dancing in the school play will truly make us a KAAFIR YAHOOD BEHAIRAT nation but sending college kids to jihad camps is "culture".

Ok,I have some questions for you:

• Why are you equating dancing ban to declaring them as kaafir? Plz, tell me which logical steps brought you to this conclusion. Because no one in this thread who is supporting the ban declared them kaafir.
• Who is saying to send children to jihadi camps? Apart from you.

I could go on and on about waderaism, tribal courts, the concept of qari, weaponozed rape, female infanticide, bonded labour, lynching people because they have different opinions and honour killings but I won't because what about social values and culture. Gotta shut down anything tests maulvi sahabs "patience".

• Who is is supporting Lynching,tribal courts,concept of qari,rape and etc? These things should also be banned,along with dance shows in school.

As for the YouTube videos I'm sorry I haven't come across any (mainly because I wasn't looking for them in the first place). It's the internet , if you're looking for it then you will find it. Btw do you what I love watching on TV ? Softcore p*rn. Uhhh I mean Punjabi stage dramas. But don't you dare say anything against them they're not against social values.

• Again who is supporting vulgar stage dramas? Ban them also.

Our point is this:

• We are supporting the ban on dancing because it is promoting vulgarity in the students.
• We are not supporting waderaism, tribal courts, the concept of qari, weaponozed rape, female infanticide, bonded labour, lynching people or stage dramas.

I hope you now you understand what we are standing for and what we are against.

 

[VCheng]

Of course it is their right. But people wanting to go in a certain direction doesn't mean it is the right one. But this country fails to learn and it'll pay dearly in time as always.

They will pay the price if their decisions are incorrect, and reap the rewards if they are correct, just like all nations. We can only watch, since it would be wrong to judge them for exercising their rights.

 

[Well.wisher]

Dancing is banned only for the girls..

It would make sense if they had banned the traditional dancing too .. but they can't cause it's a halal entertainment whole girls dancing cause fitnah ..

 

[Enigma_]

They will pay the price if their decisions are incorrect, and reap the rewards if they are correct, just like all nations. We can only watch, since it would be wrong to judge them for exercising their rights.

This direction has already proven to be disasterous throughout history. If we fail to learn from that and still want to drive head on into the inferno then the people deserve everything they get. It won't be judged by me or any one else but by history and I assure you it will not be pretty. Alas it is what it is.

 

[jamahir]

Doesn't Punjab have bonded labor and feudalism??

But by all means, ban dancing.

 

[VCheng]

This direction has already proven to be disasterous throughout history. If we fail to learn from that and still want to drive head on into the inferno then the people deserve everything they get. It won't be judged by me or any one else but by history and I assure you it will not be pretty. Alas it is what it is.

Many here would disagree with you and say most emphatically that Pakistan is heading in the right direction to its destiny.

 

[war&peace]

@war&peace

It is Pakistan, not USA where school children go firing with guns and kill fellow students and teachers.

Ha, ha, that was a nice comeback. To be fair, in Amerikkkan schools both dance and gunning down peeps is allowed.

Regards

Mate, you should use reply or quote buttons instead of simply copying the text. It was not a comeback but rather putting the things on context. Some of our friends are needlessly cynical and they are so depressed that they can lie which does not help the discussion.

 

[Enigma_]

Many here would disagree with you and say most emphatically that Pakistan is heading in the right direction to its destiny.

We will see which of whom is correct. Time will tell.

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

Ok,I have some questions for you:

• Why are you equating dancing ban to declaring them as kaafir? Plz, tell me which logical steps brought you to this conclusion. Because no one in this thread who is supporting the ban declared them kaafir.
• Who is saying to send children to jihadi camps? Apart from you.

• Who is is supporting Lynching,tribal courts,concept of qari,rape and etc? These things should also be banned,along with dance shows in school.

• Again who is supporting vulgar stage dramas? Ban them also.

Our point is this:

• We are supporting the ban on dancing because it is promoting vulgarity in the students.
• We are not supporting waderaism, tribal courts, the concept of qari, weaponozed rape, female infanticide, bonded labour, lynching people or stage dramas.

I hope you now you understand what we are standing for and what we are against.

I'm not declaring anyone kaafir. It's meant to be sarcasm over people who scream yahoodi saazish over the smallest of things.

The threat of terrorism has changed now. It is no more soviet era jihadis attacking us like they did in the 90's and no more "good Taliban" attacking us like in the 2000's. The latest threat is radicalisation of the educated and the best place to do this is colleges and universities. It's mostly done by Tableeghi Student organisations. Marshal khan's murderers and the guy who shot his principal for marking him absent over a TLYAR rally were university students. That stupid b**** who was out to join daesh last year was a medical student. They might be radical students right now but should push come to shove they will most certainly turn to terrorist groups. By not having the courage to put a hold on this, the state is actively digging it own grave.

It's not about supporting tribal actions. Its about showing resistance and acting against them. And no govt so far has tried to do anything against them because they're all courageless fools. The stats are only increasing each year and that's only the REPORTED ones.
Also could you explain how little kids dancing in school plays and festivals will make them "vulgar" ?

 

[PAKjunoon]

I'm not declaring anyone kaafir. It's meant to be sarcasm over people who scream yahoodi saazish over the smallest of things.

It's you who is equating supporting ban to radicalism.

The threat of terrorism has changed now. It is no more soviet era jihadis attacking us like they did in the 90's and no more "good Taliban" attacking us like in the 2000's. The latest threat is radicalisation of the educated and the best place to do this is colleges and universities. It's mostly done by Tableeghi Student organisations. Marshal khan's murderers and the guy who shot his principal for marking him absent over a TLYAR rally were university students. That stupid b**** who was out to join daesh last year was a medical student. They might be radical students right now but should push come to shove they will most certainly turn to terrorist groups. By not having the courage to put a hold on this, the state is actively digging it own grave.

• The jihadis never attacked us in 90's.
• The "Good Taliban" are the Afghan Taliban who never attacked us to till this day.The "BAD Taliban" are the ones who were and are attacking us.We were right in differentiating between them.
• Mashal Khan was murdered by ANP student wing members,which is liberal party.

Are you saying that banning dance from schools will radicalize the students?

There is very little radicalization in Pakistan both on left and the right.You can't only blame the right.

ANP,MQM and PPP are all radicalized and terrorists.ALL are secular.

It's not about supporting tribal actions. Its about showing resistance and acting against them. And no govt so far has tried to do anything against them because they're all courageless fools. The stats are only increasing each year and that's only the REPORTED ones.

• Radicalization is decreasing in Pakistan.The number of terrorists attack from both the left and right have decreased.And there supporters are decreasing day by day.

Also could you explain how little kids dancing in school plays and festivals will make them "vulgar" ?

• These are very formative years for kids.They are easily influenced by the environment.We don't want them to be influenced by Bollywood culture,because in most schools dance mean Bollywood item song dances.
• And in school there are also teenagers who want to try to be cool,by following the degenerate Bollywood culture.Especially female teenagers are easily influenced by media.(That why majority of marketing is targeted towards females,easy prey)They follow the trend whether right or wrong.They have a physiological urge to get attention.And they use their beauty and body to get the attention.
• That's why in most school dances the performers are girls,usually performing seductive dances.
• And girls develop more self-esteem problems as compared to boys.Just see the stats in the west.

The problem is you equating the ban to all sorts of societal ills and problems.

There are problems.But this is not one of them.

In fact it is a good step by Gov.

 

[MultaniGuy]

The ban is a wise move indeed.

What kind of a 6 or 7 year old goes through puberty ? Did you import some super strong Arab air over here that children have started maturing at this age ? So the implication you're making is that 7 year olds dance and seduce each other and what's next ? They have intercourse too ? People like you are the reason I see 4 year olds running around in burqas these days.

Show me a picture of a girl being forced to wear a Burqa at the age of 4?

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

The ban is a wise move indeed.


Show me a picture of a girl being forced to wear a Burqa at the age of 4?

You wouldn't see the need in asking for a picture if you actually lived in Pakistan.

 

[Hamza913]

Yeah, Pakistani civilization is so unique that they're the only people in the area that lacks dance in their lexicon.
Very wise decision.

Many popular dance moves and songs are not appropriate for children, or anyone for that matter. Especially ones from Bollywood.

Only a bhagharat would let their people do this.

 

[proud_indian]

We have our traditional dancing practices which are decent for public events.

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