Pope Francis Speaks Out on Charlie Hebdo: ‘One Cannot Make Fun of Faith’

[Itachi]

All major organized religions try to limit independent thought.

Sir, are you implying that Islam is an "organized" religion? And, do you think that Christianity is also "organized", if so than you can't be a Muslim. Christians, although diverted from true Christianity, are still Christian because they still believe in many of the core tenants of the faith preached to them by Hardhat Isa bin Maryam. This is why they are still the "People of the Book" and if you say that they are an "organized religion" then I don't know if atheists taught you Islam or the terrorists.

 

[Star Wars]

All major organized religions try to limit independent thought.

There is nothing independent about mocking, insulting and making fun of someone's believes. That's like calling a black the "N" word and claiming to have an independent thought process. Constructive criticism is independent thought process. Insulting for the sake of insulting s the incredibly stupid.

 

[ranjeet]

There is nothing independent about mocking, insulting and making fun of someone's believes. That's like calling a black the "N" word and claiming to have an independent thought process. Constructive criticism is independent thought process. Insulting for the sake of insulting s the incredibly stupid.

Sorry I don't agree with you. Every religion is out there to be mocked and ridiculed.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Why make fun of faith? Why not stick to constructive criticism?
This is what i don't understand. Constructive criticism should be allowed but freedom to make fun of and openly hurl abuses is something else all together. Can the same logic of freedom of speech be applied to race, family,relationships and people ? Should i have the freedom to be downright hateful and bigoted towards a particular race in the name of freedom of speech?



racism is bad , but attacking religions is good... wierd thought process but that's how the world works these days.

No- stereotyping entire people is bad- all jews are blood suckers, all muslims are terrorists etc. attacking sacred symbols is just fine.

 

[VCheng]

Sir, are you implying that Islam is an "organized" religion? And, do you think that Christianity is also "organized", if so than you can't be a Muslim. Christians, although diverted from true Christianity, are still Christian because they still believe in many of the core tenants of the faith preached to them by Hardhat Isa bin Maryam. This is why they are still the "People of the Book" and if you say that they are an "organized religion" then I don't know if atheists taught you Islam or the terrorists.

There is nothing independent about mocking, insulting and making fun of someone's believes. That's like calling a black the "N" word and claiming to have an independent thought process. Constructive criticism is independent thought process. Insulting for the sake of insulting s the incredibly stupid.

I am very clear and correct in my statement: "ALL major organized religions try to limit independent thought."

And I stand by it.

 

[Cheetah786]

Le Pope - "One cannot make fun of faith."
Le me - "One can, and one must. One cannot kill for faith."

Łe pope= Millions of follower
Łe you= 2

 

[Yahoooooo!]

Pope Francis on 'Charlie Hebdo': "One Cannot Make Fun of Faith"

Nothing would please a religious leader more if criticism of faith is banned. Since, it's the word of God we lowly mortals will have to OBEY without protest. Thereafter the religious leaders have FULL CONTROL.

 

[VCheng]

I am very clear and correct in my statement: "ALL major organized religions try to limit independent thought."

And I stand by it.

Oh, and I forgot to add: They ALWAYS fail in acheiving that!

 

[Steve781]

Charlie Hebdo was in steep decline before the attack. What the gunmen have done is revive it just as the fatwa on Rushdie revived interest in an atrocious novel which had been mostly ignored before.

 

[Itachi]

I am very clear and correct in my statement: "ALL major organized religions try to limit independent thought."

And I stand by it.

I don't care about what you stand by or not, it matters not to me if you go into Heaven or Hell, what I want is the answer to my question, which you obviously ignored in your ignorant state of mind.

No- stereotyping entire people is bad- all jews are blood suckers, all muslims are terrorists etc. attacking sacred symbols is just fine

If your attacking sacred symbols and in the case of Charlie, a human being was criticized, what would you say than?

What if someone came up to you and insulted Gandhi, you mom/dad or anyone dear to you? Would you yell "Freedom of Speech"!!! And move on? If so, that's quite pathetic and weak.

Nothing would please a religious leader more if criticism of faith is banned. Since, it's the word of God we lowly mortals will have to OBEY without protest. Thereafter the religious leaders have FULL CONTROL.

No ones saying that you can't criticize a faith, just don't insult it. If you have nothing better to say, just keep your mouth shut. Also, no one has to obey, that's just either your bias or propaganda, you can choose whatever life style you want to, no one's stopping you or wanting to take "FULL CONTROL" over you.

 

[-SINAN-]

Le Pope - "One cannot make fun of faith."
Le me - "One can, and one must. One cannot kill for faith."

One should make naughty pics by using your mom's pictures..and distribute it over the net....I bet you would be very proud...

"It's the free speech" you would say.

 

[MastanKhan]

Charlie Hebdo was in steep decline before the attack. What the gunmen have done is revive it just as the fatwa on Rushdie revived interest in an atrocious novel which had been mostly ignored before.

Hi,

As many time as I can say---Allah gives in strange ways and gives more to those who disgrace his name.

Rushdie was a nobody till be insulted the Prophet Mohammad---Charlie H was a nobody till he insulted the Prophet---same with the Egyptian guy in Miami who made the movie or the self proclaimed priest who is working at a fast food restaurant---they all became somebody after the fact.

 

[Sliver]

I am non religious. But I do have respect for this pope.
I like that he has brought some semblance of sanity to a crumbling crown called Papacy.

However, I do not believe in the christ, I do not believe in religion.

If your mother happens to be sarah palin, I will certainly have some choice words for her. But I have those words for her for what she speaks - not because she is someone's mother.

If thats the case we should refrain from making fun of anyone (they are someone's mother/father/child/friend)

 

[Itachi]

But I have those words for her for what she speaks - not because she is someone's mother.

Bro, your right, I like all of you post but this part ticked my mind. These Charlie guys are insulting a guy(Prophet Muhammad P.U.B.H) who they themselves haven't meet and are like centuries apart from. Why did they even feel a need to pick on someone who himself was an activist? Why did they want to defame a person who hasn't even uttered a word against them? Doesn't this fall under the case of "double-standards" and the exploitation of the liberty you have been given?

I am not saying that these people should be killed, in fact, I condemn their killing but, on the hand, didn't they too act like the people whom they thought were fighting?

 

[Sliver]

Bro, your right, I like all of you post but this part ticked my mind. These Charlie guys are insulting a guy(Prophet Muhammad P.U.B.H) who they themselves haven't meet and are like centuries apart from. Why did they even feel a need to pick on someone who himself was an activist? Why did they want to defame a person who hasn't even uttered a word against them? Doesn't this fall under the case of "double-standards" and the exploitation of the liberty you have been given?

I am not saying that these people should be killed, in fact, I condemn their killing but, on the hand, didn't they too act like the people whom they thought were fighting?

You are free to condemn them. you are free to disagree wit them.

Their portrayal of the prophet and basically any of their portrayals of the political/religious situations of the time are basically their way of showing disagreement.

Just as you are free to condemn and debate, so are they.

Extension:
Religious people really talk a lot of bad stuff about ahtiests/non believers. "immoral", "lost", "animal like" are just a few. Its their right to believe in their religion, its my right to believe in what I think is right. The law of the land guarantees that any violence is not accepted.

The law of the land guarantees that you are free to air your disagreements. The law of the land has been and will be upheld. This is the "freedom" the speaker in the video is saying - if you dont agree with this freedom, please go to a place where the definition of freedom suits you.