PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad

[WishLivePak]

Answer me this... Did you read the reports I attached, if you did not then please don't debate any further with me. Thank you

Answer you why? Did you first of all said in your post that some of the pictures are not relevant to the argument?

So here's what we're going to do. Look at @Tameem post, admit your mistakes in the original comment openly. Then I'd answer to your every question.

I hope you accept this offer.

 

[RescueRanger]

Answer you why? Did you first of all said in your post that some of the pictures are not relevant to the argument?

The pictures were taken from the Internet, if they are out of context then please accept my apologies. I am not in the business of "propaganda" now answer my question... DID you read the REPORTS? If not then please don't quote me again! And If you have, tell me would an independent think tank in "NORWAY" lie?

Thank you!

 

[WishLivePak]

The pictures were taken from the Internet, if they are out of context then please accept my apologies. I am not in the business of "propaganda" now answer my question... DID you read the REPORTS? If not then please don't quote me again! And If you have, tell me would an independent think tank in "NORWAY" lie?

Thank you!

Yes they're out of context if you look at @Tameem post, which you're refusing to do. You have offered your apologizes, I don't need that. I need you to correct your post so people don't fall for out of context contents.

Do that, I'd answer your questions.

Also I edited my previous 2 comments if you want to read.] again.

@RescueRanger let me point you to the right direction: PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad | Page 3

 

[RescueRanger]

Yes they're out of context if you look at @Tameem post, which you're refusing to do. You have offered your apologizes, I don't need that. I need you to correct your post so people don't fall for out of context contents.

Do that, I'd answer your questions.

Also I edited my previous 2 comments if you want to read.] again.

Lol, you have not edited anything. Listen I don't mean to be rude but please don't ask me to check the security features of a german armored vehicle to a Pakistani one. This is one subject I know a fair deal about! Now you have not read the reports I have attached you have only posted conjecture.

So that is the end of this discussion. If you quote me again, it better be with a cited fact and not some random rebuttal. Also Please comply with the spamming policy of the forum which you are now breaching by constantly quoting me and posting 1/2 liners without any source and without any facts.

If you want to question those reports, read them and answer my QUESTION! Is the Norwegian think tank Lying?

 

[WishLivePak]

Lol, you have not edited anything. Listen I don't mean to be rude but please don't ask me to check the security features of a german armored vehicle to a Pakistani one. This is one subject I know a fair deal about! Now you have not read the reports I have attached you have only posted conjecture.

So that is the end of this discussion. If you quote me again, it better be with a cited fact and not some random rebuttal. Also Please comply with the spamming policy of the forum which you are now breaching by constantly quoting me and posting 1/2 liners without any source and without any facts.

If you want to question those reports, read them and answer my QUESTION! Is the Norwegian think tank Lying?

I honestly don't know what is wrong with you. Either you're angry and you cannot control emotion or I don't know.

1) If you look at my post, you will at the bottom "last edited." But let's say this website is rigged and I'm liar. If you look at your post, you're not quoting half of the content (because I edited it later). So why do you say I've not edited anything?

2) You keep refusing to acknowledge anything and you expect me to read your reports. You refuse to acknowledge that BMW have years of research into armored vehicles. Their cars are not only bomb and bullet proof, but carry other features, such as stopping air poison. If I'm wrong, why does COAS or Judge people use Mercedes or similar BMWs?

3) Don't tell me about spamming policy, which you're actually practicing. Did you post your sources for some of the pictures? Nope. It is site policy to offer source material.

4) You keep on refusing to read: PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad | Page 3 @Tameem post which directly offers source. This is what I'm referencing and here you're telling me I'm the one spamming, leaving one liners (pardon me, you still haven't read my replies? Let's not get started over the positive rating you gave over a one liner and you're here teaching me about site policy).

I guess I've to put it in bold letters: Read this damn post: PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad | Page 3


"no no no, wrong on all accounts. That's all I can say" earns a positive rating. And then you tell me one liners are against site's policy, when my posts have been longer than his and actually offer more than "all I can say"

PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad | Page 4 post awarded.

 

[RescueRanger]

I honestly don't know what is wrong with you. Either you're angry and you cannot control emotion or I don't know.

1) If you look at my post, you will at the bottom "last edited." But let's say this website is rigged and I'm liar. If you look at your post, you're not quoting half of the content (because I edited it later). So why do you say I've not edited anything?

2) You keep refusing to acknowledge anything and you expect me to read your reports. You refuse to acknowledge that BMW have years of research into armored vehicles. Their cars are not only bomb and bullet proof, but carry other features, such as stopping air poison. If I'm wrong, why does COAS or Judge people use Mercedes or similar BMWs?

3) Don't tell me about spamming policy, which you're actually practicing. Did you post your sources for some of the pictures? Nope. It is site policy to offer source material.

4) You keep on refusing to read: PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad | Page 3 @Tameem post which directly offers source. This is what I'm referencing and here you're telling me I'm the one spamming, leaving one liners (pardon me, you still haven't read my replies? Let's not get started over the positive rating you gave over a one liner and you're here teaching me about site policy).

I guess I've to put it in bold letters: Read this damn post: PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad | Page 3

1. How am I angry pray tell when all I have asked you to do is READ a report that you requested when you demanded facts!

2. The GOP and GOS and Federal Government have 7 Series, S500 and Amazon in service which are not armored in Pakistan! They are purchased from International Armoring group in the US... Google is your friend!

3. Yes all the sources and pictures are referenced! The question is did you post sources for your rebuttals?! Because you claiming x manufacturer is better than y is proof how? Please provide proof to back up your analysis. BTW Mercedes Armoring is the best in the world with the highest grade of certified protection in the luxury sedan market: Meet the bullet-proof Merc S-Class - BBC Top Gear

4. I am only calling a SPADE a SPADE!

And no need to curse at me, Damn yourself. Thank you!

 

[WishLivePak]

1. How am I angry pray tell when all I have asked you to do is READ a report that you requested when you demanded facts!

2. The GOP and GOS and Federal Government have 7 Series, S500 and Amazon in service which are not armored in Pakistan! They are purchased from International Armoring group in the US... Google is your friend!

3. Yes all the sources and pictures are referenced! The question is did you post sources for your rebuttals?! Because you claiming x manufacturer is better than y is proof how? Please provide proof to back up your analysis. BTW Mercedes Armoring is the best in the world with the highest grade of certified protection in the luxury sedan market: Meet the bullet-proof Merc S-Class - BBC Top Gear

4. I am only calling a SPADE a SPADE!

And no need to curse at me, Damn yourself. Thank you!

Yes you're angry. Let's start from the bottom. I said the damn post, not damn you. So you're cursing at me. And technically, damn is not a curse word.

You still refuse to read Tameem's post.

You know what, this is turning to "he said and she said" sort of thing. I don't want to be part of this and waste anymore time with someone who cannot click on the link I offered to see how wrong he is. Perhaps you've clicked on it and refuse to admit you're wrong.

Whatever the case, enjoy your day mister.

 

[RescueRanger]

You still refuse to read Tameem's post.

You still refuse to read my REPORT! so tit-for-tat!

 

[syedali73]

You still refuse to read my REPORT! so tit-for-tat!

Sir, you are wasting your time. His avatar does not tell you about what kind of person he is? There is an excellent word in English for such folks i.e. incorrigible.

 

[RescueRanger]

Further proof of just how great the S500 was back in the day:

^ This video shows a terrorist attack against the convoy of Eduard Shevardnadze where his Mercedes S500 was hit multiple times with AK47 and even 2 RPGs but managed to drive him to safety:

Source: Bit - Bytes y Otros: Los chechenos estan en la mira

Power to German Engineering!

 

[I FLY HIGH]

what is the defination of progressive for patwaris??
someone who dnt give important seats to anyone but his own family members? Anyone who murder people? anyone how is involved in money oundering, anyone with links with terrorist


not true . Most of his business is abroad. more over watch BBC documentary on nawaz sharif money laundering . The current Fiannace minsiter give signed affidavit against nawaz sharif, who is also his samdhi.

U talk of family politics ? u can see family politics even more in PTI as Qureshi , Tareens , khakwanis , Ch Ghulam Sarwar , Riaz Fatiana , etc so u cannot criticize only on Pmln. Money laundering case was political victimization and was quashed twice. I dont think this argument carries enough weight even to answer i.e murder , terrorist PM etc .

 

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[Jzaib]

U talk of family politics ? u can see family politics even more in PTI as Qureshi , Tareens , khakwanis , Ch Ghulam Sarwar , Riaz Fatiana , etc so u cannot criticize only on Pmln. Money laundering case was political victimization and was quashed twice. I dont think this argument carries enough weight even to answer i.e murder , terrorist PM etc .

how can u noon league even use words like ëven more"in PTI when youger brother is CM, elder is PM, samdhi is fianance minsiter, son is defecto CM, daughter made incharge of billions of funds, while sons who are not even in politics attend offical meetings? for God sake stop defending it.

 

[Viper0011.]

No, no, no, no, no and no. Wrong on all accounts. That's what I'll say.

That's it? "Wrong on all counts" without proper facts backing anything up? Sounds like IK talking. No, No, No judge there is rigging even if you can't find it. I lost so it is definitely rigging. The Martians flew in a secret Spaceship, took over the voting stations, casted fake votes, waited till the results and flew away back to Mars. And they had the support of everyone and their dog in Pakistan!!

Taking credit for petrol prices eh?

parents telling little kids 'nara lagao Nawaz Sharif'.

I mean what the heck is this cheap attitude? Telling little kids stuff like this. .

At least the didn't tell the kid to drag his opponents and their families out of their homes and punch them, or conduct violence and disrupt the peace.....or go get high in a sit in inside Islamabad and spread violence, while drinking, doing drugs and using prostitutes brought from Lahore and the great KPK to keep the youth "young"!!! While the country loses billions in business, economic activity and in reputation.

You really want to talk about "cheap" attitude???

Further proof of just how great the S500 was back in the day:

^ This video shows a terrorist attack against the convoy of Eduard Shevardnadze where his Mercedes S500 was hit multiple times with AK47 and even 2 RPGs but managed to drive him to safety:

Source: Bit - Bytes y Otros: Los chechenos estan en la mira

Power to German Engineering!

Common man, are you smoking some fishy stuff?? Mercedes isn't designed to take an RPG hit. It was probably a low level home made material like an IED or something. Not real military grade. German engineering is great but a car doesn't turn into a tank. Plus the way terrorists have attacked in Pakistan many times, even larger buildings can't stand a truck or a van laden with explosives. A van or car laden with explosives can easily take out 20-40 cars within a specific radius. Thus the extended security detail, as it has to cover a wider area in case an attack was to happen.

You can keep arguing about it but you are away from facts and now it's just your personal political will against the "King NS". If IK was in power, it would be the same. Under a civilian government, the PM has the authority to press the Red button first or issue a final order on it in case of a war. So he will be protected as such.

 

[RescueRanger]

@Viper0011. The video was used in a presentation from the state department. State department don't come up with BS facts.

Anyway I am tired of arguing with people who are clueless. Please don't quote me again and I won't quote you.

Don't have too much spare time to argue the same point again and again.

Thank you