PM Nawaz pays surprise visit to two commercial centres in Islamabad

[Paksanity]

I would like to know. Can you please elaborate ?

You have to know his background. His father had a small business, an iron foundry actually where they would melt scrap iron and produce some basic iron products. That foundry was nationalized by ZA Bhutto like many other thus their resentment with Bhutto. So how did he entered politics from a businessman? Enter General Zia ul Haq, a person who is responsible for most of the mess we are in today. He handpicked Nawaz Sharif and appointed him Finance minister and then Chief Minister of Punjab. No there were no polls, it was Military Rule. He would take orders from General Gilani and receive patronage from Gen Zia. Once Zia declared him his son! His fortunes multiplied and a huge industrial empire started to take shape. ISI directly funded his election alliance in 1988 elections and he formed government in Punjab against central government of Benazir Bhutto. With huge sums of money from military and his industrial empire he bought MPs and deadlocked Benazir govt in a shameless show of hostlity. Again with backdoor buying he would bring Benazir govt down only within two years and become Prime Minister. When a case is accepted to be heard in Pakistan Supreme Court he went on to charge inside supreme court, vandalised the apex court. He also forced one Army Chief to resign and tried to remove unceremoniously another.

He is a dictator in his party and no one can dare dissent from him. Only his family members and relatives get key appointments in governments. There are no elections in his party and there is no confusion that only his sons and daughters are eligible to rise to replace him. His younger brother runs Punjab. His daughter holds official meetings and passes orders to top beauraucrates. She has no official portfolio but has dispensed Billions of rupees of tax payers money through her orders. Just because she is his daughter.

All important portfolios in government are only held by his family or extended family. They only work to expand his industrial empire which is worth multi billion dollars now. They have business and factories in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, England, Europe and many other. Only their factories grow. They have killed our textile and leather industry which offered them competition. When entire Pakistan suffers from energy shortage, their factories get uninterrupted supply of gas and electricity at nominal prices. Their overtures to India are solely based on their business interests and has nothing to do with Pakistan's national interest or something.

Their Saudi love affair is another thing. He has a legendary cowardice. What else you expect when he has been brought by a Military dictator. His rigging in election is no secret and attacking Pakistan's armed forces when they were fighting war of our future is also no secret. His broken election campaign motto that loadshedding will end completely within 6-12 months is vividly fresh in our mind. There is 12 hours loadshedding as of now. The list is very long.

Indians make a mistake of thinking good of him because of his overtures to India and anti-army (same Army that introduced him) anti- Mushshraf stance. For us he will sell our country for his business. He freezes in his tracks at times when leadership is required. After Peshawar attack he went dormant! Can you believe that?

he is trying all he can to boost its economy

He is just trying to boost his business.

 

[indo]

You have to know his background. His father had a small business, an iron foundry actually where they would melt scrap iron and produce some basic iron products. That foundry was nationalized by ZA Bhutto like many other thus their resentment with Bhutto. So how did he entered politics from a businessman? Enter General Zia ul Haq, a person who is responsible for most of the mess we are in today. He handpicked Nawaz Sharif and appointed him Finance minister and then Chief Minister of Punjab. No there were no polls, it was Military Rule. He would take orders from General Gilani and receive patronage from Gen Zia. Once Zia declared him his son! His fortunes multiplied and a huge industrial empire started to take shape. ISI directly funded his election alliance in 1988 elections and he formed government in Punjab against central government of Benazir Bhutto. With huge sums of money from military and his industrial empire he bought MPs and deadlocked Benazir govt in a shameless show of hostlity. Again with backdoor buying he would bring Benazir govt down only within two years and become Prime Minister. When a case is accepted to be heard in Pakistan Supreme Court he went on to charge inside supreme court, vandalised the apex court. He also forced one Army Chief to resign and tried to remove unceremoniously another.

He is a dictator in his party and no one can dare dissent from him. Only his family members and relatives get key appointments in governments. There are no elections in his party and there is no confusion that only his sons and daughters are eligible to rise to replace him. His younger brother runs Punjab. His daughter holds official meetings and passes orders to top beauraucrates. She has no official portfolio but has dispensed Billions of rupees of tax payers money through her orders. Just because she is his daughter.

All important portfolios in government are only held by his family or extended family. They only work to expand his industrial empire which is worth multi billion dollars now. They have business and factories in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, England, Europe and many other. Only their factories grow. They have killed our textile and leather industry which offered them competition. When entire Pakistan suffers from energy shortage, their factories get uninterrupted supply of gas and electricity at nominal prices. Their overtures to India are solely based on their business interests and has nothing to do with Pakistan's national interest or something.

Their Saudi love affair is another thing. He has a legendary cowardice. What else you expect when he has been brought by a Military dictator. His rigging in election is no secret and attacking Pakistan's armed forces when they were fighting war of our future is also no secret. His broken election campaign motto that loadshedding will end completely within 6-12 months is vividly fresh in our mind. There is 12 hours loadshedding as of now. The list is very long.

Indians make a mistake of thinking good of him because of his overtures to India and anti-army (same Army that introduced him) anti- Mushshraf stance. For us he will sell our country for his business. He freezes in his tracks at times when leadership is required. After Peshawar attack he went dormant! Can you believe that?



He is just trying to boost his business.

Interesting! But don't you think , that as his all business is in Pak and it relies mostly on prosperity of people of Pak, he would work to achieve that. I just don't understand the blind hate as in even if he tries to do something good , he isn't appreciated for it........

 

[SBD-3]

I don't understand why he is hated so much in Pakistan . Maybe there's something I don't know that most Pakistanis do.
But he seems like a good chap. I mean Pak is in deep trouble right now and he is trying all he can to boost its economy . No one seems to give credit to his work. I understand that oratory skills are not his strong points, but he's humble and respectful and those are some good qualities. Every party has some bad eggs and PMLN too has some. After all he doesn't have a magic wand that will make everything go away. I am impressed by his initiatives on many fronts like economic rejuvenation, Infra projects undertaking especially Electricity generation, transport infra and also fighting the islamic terrorism. Every time I see Pakistanis give all the credit to the army for WoT and nothing to the civilian government. The initiatives he has undertaken surely would take some years to produce tangible results.


Am I missing something ?

If PDF/Facebook and Twitter are considered Pakistan then yes very much!

People doesn't hate him but some of the members of his party

e.g Ayaz sadiq,he made him speaker of the assembly and he's elected through rigging

Actually i like Ishaq dar from his party for his push to the economic growth

If true then
1-Why does Imran keep whining about the whole election being rigged?
2-Why hasn't he even contended the recount despite being lost again in recount? Rather directing his anger at the same judge -citing whose report he was doing chest thumping a few days ago-?

 

[razgriz19]

If Imran Khan does it, all fans "WOW, so leader, much appreciated, let's make him King of Pakistan"

But if Nawaz does it, all haters "wow, such publicity attention seeker, die Nawaz, murda Nawaz, RAW CIA agent"


For example, the COAS of Pakistan ordered a new $30 million jet. There was no cry over it. But if Nawaz uses state's already owned plane, people start crying for it saying he's wasting tax payers money. His last 15 visits in 16 months outsides Pakistan cost us $3 million and the COAS cost us $30 million.

Pakistan is a army loving and politicians hater country. When Imran Khan comes in power, he will be dispised as well (many hate him already)

Someone isn't happy.

Surprise vsit is surprice, whether iwith 1 car or 150.

Besides, he's prime minister of Pakistan. He cannot refuse security. And it's surprising to see how few security people were around him, considering the terrorism situation in Pakistan. Even Obama in a safe place cannot go around without tons of secury

When did COAS ordered a new airplane?

 

[Paksanity]

Interesting! But don't you think , that as his all business is in Pak and it relies mostly on prosperity of people of Pak, he would work to achieve that. I just don't understand the blind hate as in even if he tries to do something good , he isn't appreciated for it........

No, they have since long shifted there business abroad. Only a fraction is here which is necessary to maintain poltical influence. His own son does not participate in poltics but takes care of business. His daughter and son of his younger brother are successors to his dynasty. His multiple trips abroad (16 in 15 months) are mostly business trips. He hardly gets any protocol outside Pakistan and often terms these as private trips. Imagine Modi on a private trip to UK! He has insulted our great nation and people are deeply hurt. This picture will explain you how is is treated outside Pakistan.

Waiting and rehearsing while British PM did not arrive yet. We are so embarassed as a nation!

 

[Imran Khan]

If Imran Khan does it, all fans "WOW, so leader, much appreciated, let's make him King of Pakistan"

But if Nawaz does it, all haters "wow, such publicity attention seeker, die Nawaz, murda Nawaz, RAW CIA agent"


For example, the COAS of Pakistan ordered a new $30 million jet. There was no cry over it. But if Nawaz uses state's already owned plane, people start crying for it saying he's wasting tax payers money. His last 15 visits in 16 months outsides Pakistan cost us $3 million and the COAS cost us $30 million.

Pakistan is a army loving and politicians hater country. When Imran Khan comes in power, he will be dispised as well (many hate him already)

Someone isn't happy.

Surprise vsit is surprice, whether iwith 1 car or 150.

Besides, he's prime minister of Pakistan. He cannot refuse security. And it's surprising to see how few security people were around him, considering the terrorism situation in Pakistan. Even Obama in a safe place cannot go around without tons of secury

jet was not new it was used gulf stream janab

 

[WishLivePak]

jet was not new it was used gulf stream janab

"I brought my new car to take you for ride" and not say "I brought my used car to show you"

I meant in the case. Either way, it was built in 2013. Very new

When did COAS ordered a new airplane?

Back in 2014. He used it on his visit to usa and took his wife to London in it.

 

[SBD-3]

"I brought my new car to take you for ride" and not say "I brought my used car to show you"

I meant in the case. Either way, it was built in 2013. Very new


Back in 2014. He used it on his visit to usa and took his wife to London in it.

Lagta hay baan honay ka pakka irada hay janab ka
Yahan iss tarha ki behuda guftagu mana hay

 

[Hyde]

I don't understand why every leader visit the same market (or markets with similar names around Islamabad or major cities). Why not go and pay a visit in bazaars of smaller cities so that he can find out from interior Pakistan. May be like in films or we read in history books, disguise himself and don't carry the media with him.

Otherwise its just a matter of publicity for me

 

[OTTOMAN]

Indian banana

 

[WishLivePak]

I don't understand why every leader visit the same market (or markets with similar names around Islamabad or major cities). Why not go and pay a visit in bazaars of smaller cities so that he can find out from interior Pakistan. May be like in films or we read in history books, disguise himself and don't carry the media with him.

Otherwise its just a matter of publicity for me

less safer.

Security is easy in Islamabad and major markets.

Imagine if people attacked Nawaz? Or if he got assassinated? It's better to be safe than sorry and make a compromise.

Lagta hay baan honay ka pakka irada hay janab ka
Yahan iss tarha ki behuda guftagu mana hay

make a thread that Nawaz paid $3m for his visits and he should be hanged = positive rating

make a thread raheel sharif bought $30m jet when gov't already has many = negative rating


exaggerated but true

Lagta hay baan honay ka pakka irada hay janab ka
Yahan iss tarha ki behuda guftagu mana hay

Do you remember when Imran went to sleep on container and hundreds of cameras were on him? One PTI member posted a dedicated thread, saying leader sleeps with his fellow and so forth.

Yet he wouldn't discuss on how many nights he has actually spent at bani gala and how many on top of container. It wasn't cheap publicity stunt (knowing he's surrounded by thousands and cameras), he was true leader MashAllah. Jiye Imran!

 

[Viper0011.]

I don't understand why he is hated so much in Pakistan . Maybe there's something I don't know that most Pakistanis do.
Am I missing something ?

Yes, you are missing something. You are on a military forum where majority of people are either Xmilitary or have family member or friends in the Pakistani military. Majority of folks here come from some background direct or indirect from Musharraff's time. So you should know why you see so much hatred against NS.

Plus, add IK's propaganda team and there are just a few. But they make noise without reason. Common sense is, NS is the ONLY guy / team who can grow Pakistan's economy and can take it forward. I don't say this because he's a friend of mine, I say this because it is a fact. There is a reason why he was elected for the third time. Which then tells you he has support from the masses. Go to Pakistan and be surprised to how many advancements are happening there.

A Pakisani general recently put it this way "we had an ample opportunity to remove NS from the power when IK started his sit ins and attacked the parliament. But the problem is, he is the only person who has the business acumen needed to grow the country, with relations across the globe. If we remove him through force, not only the country will be crippled with sanctions, there will be no one to take the country forward and it might break. The military also needs significant funding, so at this point, no matter how much foreign policy the military wants to run, at the end of the day, he has power and nothing we can do about it". Tells me if things continued this way, Pakistan will become a better, more moderated, military dictatorship and terrorism free, economically growing country in the next few years.

 

[WishLivePak]

Yes, you are missing something. You are on a military forum where majority of people are either Xmilitary or have family member or friends in the Pakistani military. Majority of folks here come from some background direct or indirect from Musharraff's time. So you should know why you see so much hatred against NS.

Plus, add IK's propaganda team and there are just a few. But they make noise without reason. Common sense is, NS is the ONLY guy / team who can grow Pakistan's economy and can take it forward. I don't say this because he's a friend of mine, I say this because it is a fact. There is a reason why he was elected for the third time. Which then tells you he has support from the masses. Go to Pakistan and be surprised to how many advancements are happening there.

A Pakisani general recently put it this way "we had an ample opportunity to remove NS from the power when IK started his sit ins and attacked the parliament. But the problem is, he is the only person who has the business acumen needed to grow the country, with relations across the globe. If we remove him through force, not only the country will be crippled with sanctions, there will be no one to take the country forward and it might break. The military also needs significant funding, so at this point, no matter how much foreign policy the military wants to run, at the end of the day, he has power and nothing we can do about it". Tells me if things continued this way, Pakistan will become a better, more moderated, military dictatorship and terrorism free, economically growing country in the next few years.

source?

 

[Viper0011.]

Topi Drama! There is no such thing as a "Surprise visit". His protocol is 150+ vehicles.

What's the point here? He's the head of the state and by the constitution, he gets the security he deserves. BTW, he doesn't get to pick the 150 vehicles (by the way, NO ONE gets 150 cars so please, exaggerate to a degree where it doesn't look like simple bullshiit). Oh and this might hurt a bit more....guess who protects him and is responsible for his life......?? The Pakistani Army! Your 111 brigade sets up his security details, just so you know

source?

Source of what? lol, there wasn't anything from a source. Its a fact. IK's propaganda team can be seen here in action. And the fact about his popularity is that this is his "THIRD" term. IK can't even grow a Chicken right, let alone a suffering Economy. That's just the truth.

If you were referring to the proof of that comment by the general.... "I" am your proof and its pretty darn authentic if you ask me!

 

[Menace2Society]

Imran Khan with his sketchy pro TTP politics will bankrupt Pakistan within 2 years.