PM Hasina plans to build aircraft in the country

[Species]

They better do something quick, with fanatical Hindus across the border they are going to need whatever they can make:-

https://www.facebook.com/

With the kind of extremists like Modi in power, the shithole is about to explode.

Entire region must be prepared to tackle the spillover of the shits.

 

[Super Falcon]

BAF rejected Thunder due to performance reasons.

Next fighter for BAF will be a customised version of J-10 that would be comparable to J-10C, which is one of the best 4th gen fighters out there.

Hah AZ thunder never offered to u nor it was tested by BAF

 

[UKBengali]

Hah AZ thunder never offered to u nor it was tested by BAF

No need for BAF to test that aircraft.

Dude, I am not trying to put down JF-17 as it is a good start for Pakistan to have built this with China, but BAF needs higher performance fighters that can take on the Hinduvtas.

 

[Bilal9]

Last point to add is that Indonesian economy is pretty much dead with GDP growth at 5% when at only 12,000 US dollars PPP. I expect that multi-ethnic hotchpotch to slowly drift downwards to 3-4% growth average and become like another Brazil.

It is not a patch on Malaysia at 30,000 US dollars at PPP with growth of 6% a year. Now that is a Muslim country that BD needs to emulate.

Exactly!

Thanks to Tun Mahathir - Malaysians have their priorities set laser straight. They are using their Chinese minorities in the right manner as well to develop their economy.

I don't want to bad mouth Indonesia's progress (who'd care if I did anyways) but some Indonesian posters here (you know the one's in this thread especially) are given to waving their flag a bit too much.

The right attitude would be to collaborate with other Muslim countries to get their import business so Indonesian economy stays afloat.

No one else gives a hoot otherwise.

 

[Super Falcon]

No need for BAF to test that aircraft.

Dude, I am not trying to put down JF-17 as it is a good start for Pakistan to have built this with China, but BAF needs higher performance fighters that can take on the Hinduvtas.

Agreed but dont lie i 4th was tested by baf and rehected

J 10 is not coming to BAF either
Im sure love for india hasina will sure buy tehas

 

[UKBengali]

Agreed but dont lie i 4th was tested by baf and rehected

J 10 is not coming to BAF either
Im sure love for india hasina will sure buy tehas

Dude, just watch and wait the announcements that will be made early next year.

 

[Bilal9]

With the kind of extremists like Modi in power, the shithole is about to explode.

Entire region must be prepared to tackle the spillover of the shits.

Wow I am amazed.

There did not seem to be one educated person in that whole room. People of low education level and even lower exposure level.

And these dim-bulb morons in the room are so dumb, they were believing everything this sweaty fat creature was foaming-in-the-mouth about. Muslims are comin' to get ya with curved swords! They scheme five times a day of 'Hindu destruction'!

Probably recorded in some RSS shakha in a BIMARU state.

 

[UKBengali]

Wow I am amazed.

There did not seem to be one educated person in that whole room. People of low education level and even lower exposure level.

And these dim-bulb morons in the room are so dumb, they were believing everything this sweaty fat creature was foaming-in-the-mouth about. Muslims are comin' to get ya with curved swords! They scheme five times a day of 'Hindu destruction'!

Probably recorded in some RSS shakha in a BIMARU state.

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri has a very bad habit of writing long and clueless, sometimes out of context. I request him to make his writing precise for people to understand the contents.

The short version is Bangladeshi men are largely lazy and unproductive.

It reflects in basic numbers too (and mind you this number is helped by BD women a lot to begin with):

https://www.ilo.org/ilostat/faces/oracle/webcenter/portalapp/pagehierarchy/Page3.jspx?MBI_ID=49&_afrLoop=41340241016686&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=anpck8dqv_1#!@@?_afrWindowId=anpck8dqv_1&_afrLoop=41340241016686&MBI_ID=49&_afrWindowMode=0&_adf.ctrl-state=anpck8dqv_45

Hence why real industry will never come to Bangladesh....BD women cannot be expected to pick up the entire weight of work....and hence no one will really invest in industries that do not have LDC quotas.

 

[Michael Corleone]

There is no dearth of tools if you have money to buy.

speaking of money, our govt. should revise it's tax laws and regulations... cnc machines, autoclaves are taxed at premium in bangladesh with no local comparable startups or companies that can produce them locally.
people who try to avoid taxation by opening up a offshore holdup company in panama should be prosecuted.... middle class need not pay tax at a high rate if upper class aren;t willing to corporate

What is also needed in Bangladesh is creation of a proper profitable business climate and ready overseas customers for these products which has to come from local customers initially such as assembling our own two-place air-force trainers as well as developing D-check and overhaul facilities in remote areas like North Bengal. Some D-check activity already takes place locally in Dhaka (Biman as well as BAC). Later international business can be scouted and gained. But we have to go after this business as a focused thrust sector.

this i agree with you, proper business atmosphere... facilities for skilled workforce and manpower and increase in investment of health and education for free... provided people are willing to work in the country in the future
will help boost the country rapidly

Bro I think we both know that if Pakistan and India can do something, we can too - were not that far apart. On the balance of probability, BD will assemble planes in our lifetime.

much harder for bd because in pakistan and india... education is of superior standards and lot of facilities are provided to prevent substantial brain drain... which in bangladesh is prevelant. sure we'll have capacity to assemble planes in 10 years time... but to start a proper aviation industry with local design involved, dont expect anything before 2050 realistically

 

[Nilgiri]

speaking of money, our govt. should revise it's tax laws and regulations... cnc machines, autoclaves are taxed at premium in bangladesh with no local comparable startups or companies that can produce them locally.

Here's a smart Bangladeshi...need more of you.

But BD govt prefers to run tax scams and thus a more "simplified" + "controlled" economy in reality.....and have some optics of "projects" for the stuff ppl see everywhere else.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Here's a smart Bangladeshi...need more of you.

But BD govt prefers to run tax scams and thus a more "simplified" + "controlled" economy in reality.....and have some optics of "projects" for the stuff ppl see everywhere else.

which is why a certain party govt. can't win elections legally consecutively....

 

[bluesky]

All over the world mobile internet access is the majority now, you criticise BD for it but can't see this in Japan?

"With close to 59 percent of the Japanese population accessing internet through mobile phone in 2016, forecasts estimate this figure will grow to 61.6 percent in 2021"

This thread is about BD's dreaming about the building of jet planes. For now, for the internet mobile uses compare BD with the Sub-Saharan African countries which also remain LDC like Bangladesh. Read the excerpt below. Those countries are also moving forward with mobile access. It seems BD is not behind these countries.

However, building a plane is different. BD guys like you can dream it for another thousand years. But, before you can build planes you should try to build a sewing machine. Another point: How about manufacturing the mobile sets in the BD land instead of importing from China and India? It will take a very little Magz to do so compared to build a whole airplane. Prove yourself by manufacturing the small things before you flatter yourself with rocket science.

"By the end of 2014, it is forecast that there will be more than 635m mobile subscriptions in sub-Saharan Africa. This is predicted to rise, to about 930m by late 2019, when it is estimated that three in four mobile subscriptions will be internet inclusive. The growth is attributed to the rise of social media, content-rich apps and video content accessed from a new range of smartphones costing less than $50 (£30)".

 

[flameboard]

LOL I highly doubt BD will ever buy Tejas.

I agree. Tejas would also be a very expensive undertaking for Bangladesh. I think we're more likely to see training aircraft first.

 

[Bilal9]

I have been crying hoarse for a couple of years in this forum that we should get a small trainer aircraft assembly program going just to get our feet wet (between ab initio and AJT training such as between the BAF Nanchang CJ-6 and Yak-130/K-8) and the best candidate in my opinion is the new Yak-152 which is a brand new Russian design and has been chosen as the new platform for VVS Russia ab initio training (150 plus ordered). As we all know they use the Yak-130 for the next step, which is AJT training like we do. The Yak-152 design is almost all engine and very little fuselage/wing and standard speed is somewhere around 500 KMPH (310 knots).

Pretty fast for a little trainer if you ask me....

The Yak-152 primary / basic trainer aircraft features all-metal airframe, low wing, advanced aerofoil monoplane design. The airplane was designed from the ground up for maneuverability training for emulating various jet fighter platforms digitally a la Yak-130. It is easy to maintain and requires low operating costs.

The wings are attached with trim rudders and ailerons to provide improved aerodynamic efficiency. The aircraft features a retractable tricycle landing gear consisting of a nose wheel and two main wheels, with low-pressure tyres and shock-absorbing properties, allowing the aircraft to take-off and land safely on small unprepared airfields.

The Yak-152 trainer aircraft has a length of 7.72m, wing span of 8.82m and a height of 2.47m. The maximum take-off weight is 1,320kg and it can carry a maximum fuel load of 200kg. It features a monocoque fuselage made up of four longerons.

One of the engine choices is a 500 HP turbodiesel designed and built in Germany. Turbodiesel engine means you get tons of reserve torque to pull the airscrew and airplane out of steep dives as well as diesel fuel usage which is a heck of a lot cheaper than av-fuel (kerosene) and not as volatile to boot.

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Some details about the engine:

"Raikhlin Aircraft Engine Developments (RED) has developed a V-12 diesel for large singles, twins and whatever else can use 500 horsepower of takeoff power and 15.5 gallons an hour at cruise. In a podcast interview at AirVenture Oshkosh, a company spokesman said visitors to the booth tucked over by the vintage area suggested all kinds of applications for the innovative geared (1.88) mill. Among the innovations is a dual redundant cam and valve setup on each bank of cylinders. Weight might be an issue in some applications, however. With all accessories it tops out at about 800 pounds, but Wadsworth said the company is banking on the fact that the "competitive" price of $170,000 and fuel efficiency will make it attractive for even light turbine conversions. Wadsworth said he expects a TBO of 2,000 to 3,000 hours after the initial 1,000-hour maximum imposed by EASA on new designs expires for this engine. The engine is being field tested in a Yak-52 with positive results."
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The requirement from Russia’s Air and Space Force (VKS) is for 150 aircraft in the roles of screener and basic trainer. For this and other domestic customers, the Yak-152 will be powered by the M-14X radial nine-cylinder piston engine from the Experimental Design Bureau of Engine Building (OKBM) based in Voronezh. The M-14X is a recent, more powerful version of the popular Vedeneyev M-14P that develops 360 hp at “maximum” mode and 400 hp at “emergency.”

“We were told to do everything to reduce dependence on import,” an authoritative sourсe at Irkut told AIN. He added that the diesel version will be largely offered for export, whereas local customers insist on “a completely Russian solution.”

The Yak-152 has G limits of +8/-6 with two pilots on board, or +9/-7 with one. The aircraft has a range of 932 miles (1,500 km) and a landing field requirement of 1,380 ft (420 m) on a hard runway and 1,230 ft (375 m) on grass. The Yak-152 is fitted with the Zvezda SKS-94M2 escape system.

Yakovlev claims that the M-14X-powered Yak-152 has a 7 percent advantage over the closest competitor in maximum range (on inner fuel it can cover 1,500 km or 810 nm) and a 15 percent advantage in the rate of climb.

The design bureau suggests that the Yak-152 will appeal to sport fliers and for export.

For IAZ, the Yak-152 represents a second completely digital aircraft design. The first was the Yak-130 advanced jet trainer, which is being produced at a rate of 30 units annually.


Here are a few shots and roll out first flight video.

I am sure Yak manufacturer Irkutsk would be quite amenable for local assembly and overhaul program in Bangladesh if we buy a few dozen, which is a burning need for advanced prop training now past the CJ6 radial trainer platform, which will eventually get obsolete.

The only reason I am proposing the Yak 152 is that this is one of the only few trainers which uses traditional aluminium (duralumin) sheet, longeron and stringer structure, most other trainers have more or less gone to expensive CFRP and GFRP fibreglass layup construction method which is still a little avant garde for us.