PM Hasina plans to build aircraft in the country

[ghost250]

No, no, you are an anti-BD and you do not want BD to develop. This is why you are suggesting Bd follow ID example and do the maintenance work for the planes. Thing is this kind of work is below the esteem of BD people and they do not want to dirty their hands. This is why they send all the planes to Ukraine and I do not know where. BD people love to build a real plane by themselves under the leadership of @UKBengali, perhaps.

But, anyway, thanks for the educating input, BD posters like it or not.

what??we do have the MRO plant for f-7 warplanes and mi series helicopters... :/

 

[Centaur]

আরে চাঁদে তো বুদ্ধিহীন ভারতীয় জীবেরাও যাচ্ছে। আমরা বরং মঙ্গলগ্রহ/প্লুট ছাড়িয়ে চলে যাবো শত শত কোটি মাইল দূরের Kuiper Belt-এ যেখানে লক্ষ লক্ষ ছোট বড় উল্কাপাথর সূর্যের চারপাশে আবর্তন করে যাচ্ছে বিগত প্রায় ৫০০ কোটি বছর ধরে। আমাদের একটা মান সন্মান আছে না?

হাহাহা কথা মন্দ বলেন নাই! হাজার হলেও চেতনার সম্মান!

 

[bluesky]

12:00 AM, May 28, 2015 / LAST MODIFIED: 04:41 AM, May 29, 2015
Hasina hopes Bangladesh will build fighter jets

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina on Wednesday says Bangladesh’s progress cannot be stopped with bombings. Star file photo

My dear @UKBengali, above is a news on Hasina building fighter jets. The news is dated 2015. Three years have already passed and your beloved Hasina Bibi is again repeating the same dialogue.

Can you tell us when your Aunt will inaugurate the sophisticated plane manufacturing plant? Hasina and a few of you PDF guys are without an iota of shame. Instead of building aircraft, please build some shame in your system!!

 

[Śakra]

Sustained growth depends on the wealth accumulation and human development not by any particular sectors. Most of the developed countries dont have any automotive industry which does not mean they are not developed or industrialized. BD is a small country, so we dont need all the sectors or invest in everything. We should focus on the sectors where our strength lies. The biggest strength of BD is the GDCF (gross domestic capital formation) and demographic dividends. I dont see any reason that BD can not grow more than 7-8% for the next 10 years which is more than enough to take us to the upper middle income country of 7000 USD per capita. Then even if we can grow 5-6% we should not have any problem to become a high income country like Turkey.

@Nilgiri check out their math. 7% over 10y turns 1400$ to 7000$.

 

[Black_cats]

@Nilgiri check out their math. 7% over 10y turns 1400$ to 7000$.

Nolok wali @Śakra can't you do math .

 

[Homo Sapiens]

How this thread turned into Indonesia vs Bangladesh economic comparison and all these mud slidging? Indonesia is one of the friendliest country of our's.We consider it's gain as our gain and it's loss as our loss.I personally like to see Indonesia becoming 4th largest economy in the world soon.We have nothing but goodwill towards Indonesia and I am sure most of the Indonesian also have same wishes for Bangladesh. Do we really need to judge Indonesia this negatively just because one Indonesian member here sometimes try to seek some attention?

 

[UKBengali]

How this thread turned into Indonesia vs Bangladesh economic comparison and all these mud slidging? Indonesia is one of the friendliest country of our's.We consider it's gain as our gain and it's loss as our loss.I personally like to see Indonesia becoming 4th largest economy in the world soon.We have nothing but goodwill towards Indonesia and I am sure most of the Indonesian also have same wishes for Bangladesh. Do we really need to judge Indonesia this negatively just because one Indonesian member here sometimes try to seek some attention?

You are right but this is the 2nd Indonesian poster that is trying to put BD down time after time.

My comments were not directed at the decent Indonesians, but to illustrate that Indonesia is not really doing any better than BD if you take into account the date of independence between the 2 countries.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

You are right but this is the 2nd Indonesian poster that is trying to put BD down time after time.

No, this is same person, changed profile name few days ago.

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri check out their math. 7% over 10y turns 1400$ to 7000$.

Topcat was probably referencing their PPP per capita level (which is around 3.8k now).

My dear @UKBengali, one of my engineer benefactor told me that with only a 5% compound growth the Indonesian economy will double to a staggering $2 trillion in the next 14 years. He gave me a formula which is not at all understood by me. It is like:

Step 1) The present GDP, (X)= $1000 billion, the double GDP, (Y) = $2000 billion, rate of growth, (r) = 5% or 0.05, and the time (t) = how many years??

Step 2) My engineer mentor said, the formula is, log(Y) = t.logX(1 + 5%)
or log(Y/X) = t.log(1 + 0.05)
or log(2000/1000) = t.log(1.05)
or log(2)/log(1.05) = t
or t = 0.3010300/0.02118930 = 14.2 years

Therefore, t = 14.2 years. It means the Indonesian economy will double to $2 trillion in about 14 years. But, being an uneducated one I thought it will take 20 years. So, @UKBengali, please teach me which is correct and which is wrong. Also, please teach me what will be the BD GDP figure after this 14 years even if it grows @ 7%.

Real (constant dollar) GDP per capita:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD?locations=ID-BD

Over last 10 years, average per capita growth was:

BD: (1093/666) ^ (1/10) = 1.0507 = 5.1% p.a

INA: (4130/2750) ^(1/10) = 1.0415 = 4.2% p.a

At these compound rates holding (which they wont given BD low base effect and Indonesia being closer to LRAS potential etc...), i.e ceterus paribus, the number of years it will take BD to reach Indonesian level:

4130*1.0415^(x) = 1093*1.0507^(x)

(4130/1093) = (1.0507/1.0415)^(x)

x = log(4130/1093) / log(1.0507/1.0415)

x = 151 years

The per capita production at this 150 year equalisation is around 1.5 million USD lol.

You can see what the issue is with this silly projectioneering with only a marginally higher growth rate but much lower current output. Indonesia will remain comfortably ahead of BD by large degrees for both the silly BCL twits here lifetimes and their progeny and even progeny's progeny etc.

 

[UKBengali]

Topcat was probably referencing their PPP per capita level (which is around 3.8k now).



Real (constant dollar) GDP per capita:

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD?locations=ID-BD

Over last 10 years, average per capita growth was:

BD: (1093/666) ^ (1/10) = 1.0507 = 5.1% p.a

INA: (4130/2750) ^(1/10) = 1.0415 = 4.2% p.a

At these compound rates holding (which they wont given BD low base effect and Indonesia being closer to LRAS potential etc...), i.e ceterus paribus, the number of years it will take BD to reach Indonesian level:

4130*1.0415^(x) = 1093*1.0507^(x)

(4130/1093) = (1.0507/1.0415)^(x)

x = log(4130/1093) / log(1.0507/1.0415)

x = 151 years

The per capita production at this 150 year equalisation is around 1.5 million USD lol.

You can see what the issue is with this silly projectioneering with only a marginally higher growth rate but much lower current output. Indonesia will remain comfortably ahead of BD by large degrees for both the silly BCL twits here lifetimes and their progeny and even progeny's progeny etc.

Fool, Indonesia growth is going down while BD is going up.

Indonesia looks like becoming the next Brazil and we should expect growth of around 3-4% a year average for the next 25 years( i shall use 4% to be generous).
BD growth is only accelerating and we should expect it to hold steady at 8% a year average at least for the next 25 years(I shall use only 8% to make it harder for BD).


So let us do the math then at PPP(take 1% away for pop. growth in each country).

BD: 4.6K * 1.07^25 = 25K per capita PPP

IND: 12.4 * 1.03^25 = 25K per capita PPP

You are one butt-hurt at BD idiot.

 

[Nilgiri]

I did not say you dont have a big economy, I said you dont have the momentum to take it to the next level in short term.

but just bit later:

I dont see any reason that BD can not grow more than 7-8% for the next 10 years which is more than enough to take us to the upper middle income country of 7000 USD per capita. Then even if we can grow 5-6% we should not have any problem to become a high income country like Turkey.

LOL. The stupidest ugliest mongol strikes again. Indonesia with proven growth to the level it has now.... will not achieve what BD the LDC backwater will do in future with no problem.

 

[Nilgiri]

BD: 4.6K * 1.07^25 = 25K per capita PPP

LOL, which country has ever maintained 7 percent PPP per capita growth for 25 years at the low energy consumption and foreign investment level Bangladesh stagnancy trends right now?...even ignoring the GDDS inflation addition that has been pointed out by the 4% long term growth for BD (harvard study).

and then you put equivalent year for BD at 4.6k and Indonesia at 12.4k?

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?locations=BD-ID

In 2017, BD was 3.8k and Indonesia was 12.2 k. Indonesia is growing at 5.4% for last 5 years. BD 7% growth is only because of low base effect, it will not continue or sustain at that rate to compound for the aforementioned reasons (inflation, GDDS standard yoke catching up, miniscule energy consumption and paltry foreign investment + continued high atrocious taxes and duties on basic manufacturing capital goods like @Michael Corleone can vouch for).

When BD reaches around 4.6k in 3 years time (if it holds), Indonesia will have reached 14.3k.

What further adds to the disparity is how much BD is able to muster to invest outside its borders (very important at this stage for growth model of using technology,acquisition, natural resource stakes like IND,INA,China, Asian tiger model etc...:

http://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_bd_en.pdf

http://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_in_en.pdf

http://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_id_en.pdf

BD 2017 (right now) = 170 million dollars outward investment

To try put other two closer to BD right now in PPP level:

India 2005 (12 years ago) = 11.5 billion USD

Indonesia 2005 (12 years ago) = 3.5 billion USD

I will let you figure out that per capita and how far you are behind. It is like your olympics performance as a country. This is why you will be stuck in a low income trap pretty soon (LDC quota expiration will only make it worse), forget arguing about middle income trap for Indonesia or anyone else.

Your internal FDI stock is actually stagnant too this early in your stockpiling (indicating heavy depreciation and collateral attrition thanks to your loan-dependence).

So you aren't going to make any much headway in even legacy industries and services...forget approaching any frontier ones.

Its like a malnourished BD pole vaulting illegal saying it will be entering world strong man competition in 10 years time like his proposed claimed peers did already 10 years back. You actually have to prove a lot first....a very long road to go....and the crucial trends (your effective throw-weight mass internationally at your claimed strength level) do not look good at all...posing serious questions to even your claimed strength level in the end (as the M A Taslim article has shown regarding inflation making up most of the claimed growth).

@Marine Rouge @Gibbs @bluesky @Aung Zaya

 

[bluesky]

You actually have to prove a lot first....a very long road to go....

Unlike all other countries, Bangladesh does not need to prove its performance. Its PM has already declared a developed BD by 2041. So, people here are just chasing after her prophecy.

 

[Bilal9]

No, this is same person, changed profile name few days ago.

I have another idea. Maybe this person is not Indonesian at all. Could be a Sanghi too - for all we know. You know how Sanghis would love to have Muslim countries join together in harmony...

Shut up and accept
BD > All the world
You are talking about planes where BD will make aircraft carrier soon and annex North-east India.

ਮੇਰੇ ਜੱਟ ਭਰਾ ਤੇ ਆਓ ਕਿਸੇ ਨੂੰ ਵੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਗਧੇ ਉੱਤੇ ਬੈਠਣ ਤੋਂ ਕੋਈ ਨਹੀਂ!

 

[UKBengali]

LOL, which country has ever maintained 7 percent PPP per capita growth for 25 years at the low energy consumption and foreign investment level Bangladesh stagnancy trends right now?...even ignoring the GDDS inflation addition that has been pointed out by the 4% long term growth for BD (harvard study).

and then you put equivalent year for BD at 4.6k and Indonesia at 12.4k?

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?locations=BD-ID

In 2017, BD was 3.8k and Indonesia was 12.2 k. Indonesia is growing at 5.4% for last 5 years. BD 7% growth is only because of low base effect, it will not continue or sustain at that rate to compound for the aforementioned reasons (inflation, GDDS standard yoke catching up, miniscule energy consumption and paltry foreign investment + continued high atrocious taxes and duties on basic manufacturing capital goods like @Michael Corleone can vouch for).

When BD reaches around 4.6k in 3 years time (if it holds), Indonesia will have reached 14.3k.

What further adds to the disparity is how much BD is able to muster to invest outside its borders (very important at this stage for growth model of using technology,acquisition, natural resource stakes like IND,INA,China, Asian tiger model etc...:

http://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_bd_en.pdf

http://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_in_en.pdf

http://unctad.org/sections/dite_dir/docs/wir2018/wir18_fs_id_en.pdf

BD 2017 (right now) = 170 million dollars outward investment

To try put other two closer to BD right now in PPP level:

India 2005 (12 years ago) = 11.5 billion USD

Indonesia 2005 (12 years ago) = 3.5 billion USD

I will let you figure out that per capita and how far you are behind. It is like your olympics performance as a country. This is why you will be stuck in a low income trap pretty soon (LDC quota expiration will only make it worse), forget arguing about middle income trap for Indonesia or anyone else.

Your internal FDI stock is actually stagnant too this early in your stockpiling (indicating heavy depreciation and collateral attrition thanks to your loan-dependence).

So you aren't going to make any much headway in even legacy industries and services...forget approaching any frontier ones.

Its like a malnourished BD pole vaulting illegal saying it will be entering world strong man competition in 10 years time like his proposed claimed peers did already 10 years back. You actually have to prove a lot first....a very long road to go....and the crucial trends (your effective throw-weight mass internationally at your claimed strength level) do not look good at all...posing serious questions to even your claimed strength level in the end (as the M A Taslim article has shown regarding inflation making up most of the claimed growth).

@Marine Rouge @Gibbs @bluesky @Aung Zaya

Are you aware that over the last 2 years, BD tax collection has gone up by at least 20% each year?
This is a direct result of taxes reforms the government has brought in.
Game changer for BD as revenue crunch is coming to an end.