Paris Air Show 2019 - Thunders in Europe

[Donatello]

Well, we need to take into account that not only JF-17 but any combat aircraft or civilian airliner at such an airshow takes off with bare minimum fuel. No weapons, no extra fuel, just enough fuel to last your 5-15 minute displays......and that is for 2 reasons:
1-The pilot can take advantage of that tremendous TWR and hence awe the crowd
2-After the many times that Russians ended up ploughing their aircraft in the ground and spectators at such airshows, there are very strict regulations that the display teams must follow...and that include just enough fuel for the use so if the plane crashes there is minimum fireball.....and also notice how tightly the aircraft fly in a limited space...they are no longer permitted to fly over the spectators.

For an aircraft like JF-17, this is nothing...it is well expected to perform like that...it's a combat fighter flown by top notch pilots...not some freaking student Cessna 172.

Anyhow, my only disappointment is that there should have been two JF-17s doing the airshow....imagine both taking off in formation with the After burners......and then criss crossing each other during the performance including that slow speed brake maneuvers. You already have three aircraft there, one is on static display...it can be backup if one fails.....non-wokring one can still be displayed as static.

PS: Watch the Vietnam Airlines Boeing 787 take off at Paris air show rehearsal....that was equally crazy....image a big plane like that....amazing!!!

When being a cheap shit, at least be honest.

Check out that smoke @ 3:01

Such a morale blaster for the LCA team....oh gawd no....

 

[rockstar08]

Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn love that Take - off ..... it was near to 90 degree , and best part was , when Thunder was coming down with rolling ...
@Windjammer @Oscar what that maneuver called ? the bold part

 

[Dazzler]

Have seen Mig-29 closely enough and ample times too, i guess we use better quality fuel for RD33
And we have this Pollution under Control (PUC) check certificates too :p

Why is this loser still lingering around unnoticed??

@Irfan Baloch

@Oscar

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Have seen Mig-29 closely enough and ample times too, i guess we use better quality fuel for RD33
And we have this Pollution under Control (PUC) check certificates too :p

Watch the video posted by Oscar and these pics:

And get lost.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Bulgaria?

Paris Air Show goes green amid sluggish sales - BBC News

its an asian country according to report shared by Dino.

 

[Bratva]

Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn love that Take - off ..... it was near to 90 degree , and best part was , when Thunder was coming down with rolling ...
@Windjammer @Oscar what that maneuver called ? the bold part

This is nothing. See Russian doing this even crazier

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[Umair Nawaz]

For the people saying it has a smoky engine, WS-13 is in the works (although quite uncertain if it'll make it on the Pakistani JF-17's though) and RD-93/33 engine series IS smoky -- However RD-93 engine performance wise is a good engine as many of the senior members and the insiders have previously stated...

However for the Indian critics whose entire purpose is to go about "oh look look!! a smoky engine!!" -- Ive never heard you guys criticizing the Fulcrums in such fashion (which has been the backbone of the IAF throughout from the late 80's to the early 2000's and is one of the most important fighters in the IAF today) , just look at this video of a Polish fulcrum at 2:32 --

@Emily those were quite the statements you made, just remember that PAF operates the F-16's and the JFT's have been reported to have "regularly beat" the F-16 Block 15's (the most maneuverable in the F-16 series) and the recent news with SU-27's of the PLAAF being regularly beaten by the Thunders especially in BVR engagements --

Bottom line -- just stating that a thing is "3rd generation" doesn't dictate how effective of a weapon system it has become, and just because the origin of the avionics are Chinese, doesn't make it any less potent, its just a 'feel good' effect where you can go "oh that --- its late 3rd gen and has chinese subsystems and avionics -- no biggy!" --

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[MastanKhan]

Hi,

It took too long to pull the wheels in---surprised ---. Otherwise excellent----specially the slow speed high angle of attack---.

 

[Oruc]

Loved it. Would love to see a thunder demo video like F-16 video over sargodha AB.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Hi,

It took too long to pull the wheels in---surprised ---. Otherwise excellent----specially the slow speed high angle of attack---.

may i ask u something?

 

[Umar Jasim]

Any news related to WS-13 engine??What about WS-13A with 100KN (22,000)lbf thrust with afterburner..can WS-13A suitable for JF-17 thunder next blocks?

 

[slapshot]

Hi,

It took too long to pull the wheels in---surprised ---. Otherwise excellent----specially the slow speed high angle of attack---.

I always thought it would look cool if they retract the landing gears as soon as jet leaves the ground and before making any left/right or up move. Maybe there are some limitations which I am not aware of

 

[MastanKhan]

may i ask u something?

Go ahead.

I always thought it would look cool if they retract the landing gears as soon as jet leaves the ground and before making any left/right or up move. Maybe there are some limitations which I am not aware of

Hi,

Hanging wheels create a lots of drag----is it intentional----. Watching it so many times---I would say so----otherwise the plane would shoot off like a bullet if the wheels are tucked in at about 15---20 feet elevation.

Please remember----HANGING WHEELS ARE ACTIN LIKE AIR BRAKES---.

This guy pulled them in at over 500 feet-----surprised---. What are they trying to hide?

Hi,

Looking at the video---the wheels should have been tucked in at 1:14 or 15------he tucks them in at around 1:13---34---almost 18 to 20 seconds too late.

So---basically he has been flying for 20 seconds with massive air brakes on----.

Bottomline----there is more to that meets the eye----.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

are u an ex paf?

 

[MastanKhan]

are u an ex paf?

Hi,

No---my background is automotive engineering-----.