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He was so powerful that he landed in KSA a few months later.. He was more powerful than ZAB.. we have to accept it..



Yaar, yeh tou karna parega.. Jis halaat main hain, hum ne aaj tak apnay hi bazuon pe bharosa kia hai.. jabhi tou haray hain..

If you read Islamic history, you will be surprised to know that most of the battles we Muslims have lost in the eras when we were in power and relied on ourselves and our power more than Allah.. And most of the battles that we won when were weak, but relied on Allah..

As a nation, hamain ruju tou karna parega.. Kia aap ko lagta hai jo halat hai hamari, Allah se ruju kiey baghair behtri aasakti hai?



Resign ke baad kia hota?

I am telling you.. 2 hi raastay thay.. new chief ya NS ko hata deta ya khud hat jata..

Aap bhool rahay hain... Maryam NS ki beti hai.. woh kuchh bhi karguzarnay ko tayyar tha.. uss ne apni beti nahi deni thi.. chahay yeh Army chief chahay koi aur..
Drama create krna k kya zrorat the ..can any body tell the difference between two press release ...He would be remeber as man of principle instead of man for nawaz...
He will make sure NZ to win next election like kiyani did ...
I hope from now onward They will continue to obey civilian supremacy and will leave Karachi too when sindh won't extend there powers as there constitutional right ..now everybody will play this do or die card with Bajwa
 
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Aap chahtay hain ke yeh maanein ke HHaqqani jo itnay araam se chalay gaye...ye army ki marzi ke baghair hua hoga?

Army ki marzi se hua ho ya nahi.. Uss shakhs ko na aap kal kuchh karsaktay thay na aaj..

Main shart laga kar kehta hun, agar woh aaj bhi yahan aajaey.. tou woh usi tarha wapis jaega jaisay pehlay gaya tha..

Warna aap ko F-16 ke parts milnay band hogaey tou kia hoga?
 
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Nawaz derives his power from the systematic system hijacking:

He knows that Punjab has 148 out of 272 National Assembly seats; it's not equal representation formula hence; he knows that if he has to be in power he has to keep his grip on Punjab through bureaucracy and local level and of course courts. That is why silent resistance to current census exercise as it can create imbalance to the perfectly balanced formula hence Army's strong message that this census will not be stopped - this has larger implications than common man is thinking about. Should have another thread to discuss this issue as it is death warrant for PMLN.

Most political families in Punjab has the following configuration:

1. One son/relative/cousin in each; Bureaucracy, Army, and Politics


Nawaz was advised by the then godfathers of his to keep strengthening this base and sowing the seeds which he had been doing ever since 1985 (when N$ became CM) so officers that he favoured since the start are now Chief Secretaries, Inspector Generals, Judges, IT Commissioners, just to name a few.

This is where he gets the administrative and judicial protection as all these departments are infiltrated by default due to above configuration (see in bold) and Ghulam Ishaq Khan had developed a blue print as Defence Sec of Zia the strategy to cripple the institutions through various tactics including corrupting them and keeping the files of each officer so they can never turn their back on them -all departments are now corrupt to the core; and if there is any officer who is honest; 99% are the chances that he will be posted as Officer on Special Duty without any portfolio.

N$ could not get much hold in Army due to various reasons of which their systems of promotion till Lt. Gen is based on merit and has no political bearing - unlike in any other department; for example try getting a posting as ASP Lahore Cantt., without the relations with N$ family.

Hence without breaking this nexus - it is impossible to beat N$.

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@Farah Sohail - as I told you the day PA retracted the tweet - All is not well for N$ - and this is not just information; it is coming from as close as possible to horses mouth from both N$ family as well as from one of a very active Corp Comm. Stay positive :)

Just for tassali of @Farah Sohail posts of last Wed :)

@Farah Sohail as discussed in Dawn Leaks thread "aal iz natt welll"

There is confusion - but most agree that count will be of original bench; as it's not process of elimination - each carries one vote and JIT is part of the original bench; it's not handling a separate case - it's the same case; however more details for 3 others to reach their conclusions like 2 already reached.

Biggest qs is; what if these 3 side with N$; then what?

In regards to COAS and N$ - I still stand by my earlier statement "Aal iz Natt Wellllll"[/QUOTE]
 
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Drama create krna k kya zrorat the ..can any body tell the difference between two press release ...He would be remeber as man of principle instead of man for nawaz...

Yeh baat tou main keh raha hun ke pehla tweet bilkul ghalat tha,, uss ka nateeja yehi nikalna tha bhai.., chahay kuchh bhi hojata.. Pehlay tweet was Jazbaati tweet..

Uss ke baad agar main hota Gen Bajwa ki jaga tou kuchh sochay samjhay baghair Martial Law lagata..

yeh martial law wala tweet tha pakka.. lekin Bajwa sahib ko aqal aagaee..
 
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To be honest, I agree with his assessment of NS being Godfather.. What I disagree, that he shouldn't have used it in verdict.. He could have said whatever about Qatari letter, or the other evidences provided by Shareefs.. He should have waited to become CJ..

Now it is very difficult for him..

Did u read tht article, "Revisting the Godfather analogy" ? Tht article mentioned tht its not a new thing/precedent started by Justice Khosa to use such examples in his verdict.. He quoted many examples..where jurists have mentioned such examples in their verdict.. So its not a new thing..but maybe new for us..

Not everyone just wants to stick for a post.. For some ppl, saying truth, and what one feels..without any lagi lipti is more important.. .. And for him, it was not a new or first time thing tht he was doing.. He knew...tht jusrists have been using such examples in their verdicts...so it was nothing unusual for him

And what can NS do..to him? Other than ...if NS has some plans to take his life? May Allah keep Justice Khosa safe.. Other than this..the only option NS has against him...is if NS files a reference against Justice Khosa in Supreme Judicial Council....ermm..after what happened to Musharraf...i would infact want NS to go to tht route to speed up his own downfall.. Hardly anyone in the public knew abt Iftikhar Ch, before Musharraf took action against him..while Justice Khosa is already a hero for public.... NS will make the biggest mistake of his life..if he does tht.. Infact I want him to make this mistake......he should go ahead
 
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All is not well for N$

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Thanks yara...

I have been telling everyone.. retreat is sometimes the only strategy left.. Now focus on Panama.. and simultaneously pray to Allah.. in shaa Allah sab kuchh behtar hoga..
 
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Kis ne di thi?



Sir,, yeh ki naa baat..

People should understand that the nature is kept in balance and has its own way of justice.

Worldly matters are literally decided one day a year based on general statistics.

And each one of you know that day precisely. Specially Muslims.

If anyone want to help they should first be in a rhythm with the system in place and be good citizens first.

Change starts at home. Stop challenging time itself.
 
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Did u read tht article, "Revisting the Godfather analogy" ? Tht article mentioned tht its not a new thing/precedent started by Justice Khosa to use such examples in his verdict.. He quoted many examples..where jurists have mentioned such examples in their verdict.. So its not a new thing..but maybe new for us..

Yes... And I am speaking with Pakistan in my mind.. As much as I enjoy reading Godfather, and even using it for NS.. I feel Justice Khosa should have shown some restraint.. Khair..

Not everyone just wants to stick for a post.. For some ppl, saying truth, and what one feels..without any lagi lipti is more important.. ..

Aap shayad ghalat taraf le gaeen., merey kehnay ka matlab tha ke we need him to become CJ for Pakistan..
 
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Sir,, yeh ki naa baat..

Public ki itni haisyat kahan? Yahan tu agar koi revolution bhi aana hua..tu woh background main pehle hi manage ho chuka hoga...through manipulation and NROS.. Aur bewaqoof oublic samjhay hpgi ke unki marzi se horaha hai sab.. Yeh tu baad main pata chalay ga ke pehle hi NRO revolution manage hochuka hai, lolll
 
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Yeh baat tou main keh raha hun ke pehla tweet bilkul ghalat tha,, uss ka nateeja yehi nikalna tha bhai.., chahay kuchh bhi hojata.. Pehlay tweet was Jazbaati tweet..

Uss ke baad agar main hota Gen Bajwa ki jaga tou kuchh sochay samjhay baghair Martial Law lagata..

yeh martial law wala tweet tha pakka.. lekin Bajwa sahib ko aqal aagaee..
lol aqal ya Naukri ....he choose not to resign but to retreat ...yes now create false hope with pajama like with dawn ..in panama members from Army are same as in dawn leaks ..they could not name princess how would they dare to name king ..further DG isi nominated by Bajwa is also relative if Maryam ..Bajwa is just ensuring NZ grip
 
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Woww!!! Bas public ko blame karna sab se asaan hai... Pehlay sab mil kar oublic ko bewaqoof banayein... Aur ohir kahien.lke humari kia ghalti...public tu khud bewaqoof banti hai...wow...

Pehlay tu ye batayein ke NS aur BB se NRO kis ne kiya tha? Phir elections ka system kitna fair hai? Public itni illiterate is liye hai..kiun ke humara system especially aisa hid esign kiya gaya hai..intentionally ke public illiterate rahay,,because this suits everyone...

Army leadership bhi public ko bewaqoof banaa kar aur phir unn par hans kar samajhtay hain ke bhtt bara teer maat liya.. Lekin joa aj doosrun ko bewaqoof bana kar hansein ge,,tu kal unn oar hands jayega.. Kahin aisa na honke jab unhein public support ki zuroorat paray...tab woh na milay.. Public support ke baghair kiya hota hai..yeh 1971 main dekh chukay hain.. Itna bhi apnay aap ko aala arfa nahi samajhna chahye
Army, courts, govt, generals ....they are all angels....everything bad about Pakistan is due to the awam....awam hi gandi hai jee bas....Generals and Politicians are pure and they always in the " greater interest of the nation" ... and in the "greater interest of the nation" neither NS nor Bajwa will resign... they will make a deal on the principles and then claim awam jahil hain....waqai yaar hum tu jahil hain... we pay for their salaries, we their taxes so they can live in huge palaces with all the luxuries a person can imagine.
 
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Thanks yara...

I have been telling everyone.. retreat is sometimes the only strategy left.. Now focus on Panama.. and simultaneously pray to Allah.. in shaa Allah sab kuchh behtar hoga..

Firstly......i dont think..instituitions will cooperate with JIT much.. No matter how much JIT members want...if instituitions dont help the..what will they be able to do??

Also.....add to tht, advocate and pakora judge... We still dont know whether Justice Khosa and G uzlar's vote will count.. If their votes wont be counted..then we are doomed already
 
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lol aqal ya Naukri ....he choose not to resign but to retreat ...

Agar naukri hi itni azeez thi tou pehla tweet kis khatay main? Ghussa tou hai jo uss waqt phatnay wala tha..

Aur main phir poochta hun.. resign kardetay Gen Bajwa tou kia hota? New Gen kia karta other than taking back the tweet?
 
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Public ki itni haisyat kahan? Y han tu agar koi revolution bhi aana hua..tu woh background main pehle hi manage ho chuka hoga...through manipulation and NROS.. Aur bewaqoof oublic samjhay hpgi ke unki marzi se horaha hai sab.. Yeh tu baad main pata chalay ga ke pehle hi NRO revolution manage hochuka hai, lolll


People who are destined to lead end up leading people in way or another.

If we cannot find Altaf Hussain, Asif Zardari and Nawaz Sharif in ourselves i will walk out and start a revolution myself.

But these leaders are only our society mirrored on a public scale. These are fate of the nations whose course are predefined and predestined as is anyone who is a theist should believe.
 
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