Panamagate case: London flats were bought through Qatari investments, Sharif family tells SC

[Riz]

Supreme court should ask noora to provide that account detail where prince transferred the money for UK flats, if they are involving prince then must pursue him in court with all evidence, I think its not difficult for SC

 

[pak-marine]

جج صاحب،فلیٹ تو ہم نے قطری دوست سے پیسہ لے کر خریدے تھےمگر آپ ابا جی کی سادگی چیک کریں کہ ہر تین ماہ بعد کرایہ باقاعدگی سے بھیج دیا کرتے تھے

 

[El_Swordsmen]

Qatari letter is here and will be used for clean chit chat.

the letter itself have so many contradictions, NS axed his own feet by presenting this letter.

brother,

just want to laugh

waiting for one single word by pti or any pti'er on More than billions found in mushraaf account, which he also admitted too.

waiting for one single word.

for heaven's sake this is not the matter between IK & NS, it's about Pakistan vs corrupt elite. Won't that be good if these corrupt politicians looting Pakistan are apprehended ??
it's high time you quit your immature attitude & assess things sensibly !!

 

[LfcRed]

Seems like the sharif family couldnt find anyone in the UAE to vouch for them. Rather they had to settle for someone from qatar which had no role in this trial until now thus leaving more questions unanswered.

 

[Danish saleem]

our Farishta sirf aik chor ki bath kar raha , and 2 baray chor uss farishtay ka right and left hand pe kharay~

the letter itself have so many contradictions, NS axed his own feet by presenting this letter.



for heaven's sake this is not the matter between IK & NS, it's about Pakistan vs corrupt elite. Won't that be good if these corrupt politicians looting Pakistan are apprehended ??
it's high time you quit your immature attitude & assess things sensibly !!

do u know, last week General Mushaaraf Admitted that he have foreign accounts, in which more than 4 billions rupees present.

I will start supporting PTI and IK, if they will say one word against his accountability.

 

[Realistic Change]

Just leave all reasons & rhymes and logics aside in this plain black & white case.

I am impressed at the credibility of the new "guarantor" of Sharif's

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ormer-billionaire-pm-questioned-in-high-court

- Now we are told that PM was lying on the floor of the house when he stated that $33million were goen from sale of Dubai Factory - which was actually liquidated as they defaulted on loan from BCCI lead by syndication.

Simply wow - they better bring the architect (along with Saif ur Rehman) of this whole drama in open who ironically is brother of Asad Umar.

Also, have Sharif's done Google search on Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani before trying to present him as credible.

Can Akram Sheikh make such a blunder - hard to digest

http://www.forbes.com/sites/chloeso...prime-minister-is-a-billionaire/#44932b3925ee

 

[PoliticalStagePk]

نواز ، زرداری ، مشرف کو اگر کوئی اربوں روپے دے تو وہ تحفہ ہے لیکن کسی پٹواری ، کلرک کو اگر کوئی چند ہزار دے توبہ توبہ کرپٹ سرکاری ملازم !

 

[Imad.Khan]

our Farishta sirf aik chor ki bath kar raha , and 2 baray chor uss farishtay ka right and left hand pe kharay~



do u know, last week General Mushaaraf Admitted that he have foreign accounts, in which more than 4 billions rupees present.

I will start supporting PTI and IK, if they will say one word against his accountability.

1. When Musharraf was in Pakistan, why did PMLN govt let him leave the country?
2. PMLN is still in power, why don't they arrest the so called chor that you are referring to?
3. You support NS, even though you know that he is corrupt, has laundered money of the people of Pakistan and he lied to the whole country while addressing on the floor of the parliament, so whats your logic for supporting NS?

 

[maximuswarrior]

We know that corruption and kickbacks are a common occurrence in Pakistan. I wouldn't be surprised if these allegations turn out to be true. I am a staunch supporter of genuine democracy and transparency. Corruption needs to be tackled as much as possible. IK is right on the money when he point this out.

Corruption is indeed an enormous problem, but right now we also require stability and continuity. We need to make sure that CPEC remains on the right track. It needs our full attention. IK and others need to wait for elections. Their protest against corruption must go on, but not at the expense of CPEC and relations with our friends. I'm getting a sense that IK is being too emotional and not taking this into account.

 

[B@KH]

Finally, the cat is out of the bag. may be more cats in the bag.

when we have traders as Leaders, This all noise and humiliation is Not unexpected.

Imam Ali a.s. advised people long ago that Never make a Trader your Leader. A Trader may compromise on dignity and honor of a Nation to make own profits. But none is interested to hear the voice of justice.

The qatari letter reveals how much our leaders are connected to the foreigners rather their own people. they build empires to make profits and build their own generation. That is why the corruption and terrorism at its peak in our country.

Panama fever is letting down the dignity and honor of the Nation. if the leader would have loved nation, he would have instantly gone himself to protect the honor and dignity of the nation. Nation would not be humiliated like this.

Now politics in Pak is Money based. even Mulla is after money. thanks to gulfies.

it is money that will be deciding the fate and fortune of the Nation. Bad luck for the nation. Money people will continue to haunt the Nation. it is Capitalists protecting their empires at the cost of the Nation.

 

[Spring Onion]

We'll find out the legal interpretation of the letter by evening or by tomarrow. I don't think words of anyone can be taken for it legally, substantiation is required. This letter has plenty of questions attached to it and none but the prince can aswer them.

Anyway, I have always mantained that I am too sure about the conviction on the bases of money laudering. I find no reason why NS shouldn't be disqualified to the membership of the parliament for misleading the nation and giving false statements on the floor of the house.

Is this an affidavit or just a personal letter on a plain paper ???? ))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Qatari Prince Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al Thani.

He was also mentioned in Panama Leaks

Sheikh Hamad Bin Jassim Bin Jaber Al Thani himself involved in corruption and money laundering !!!

As noted by the Jersey Royal Court in its May 28, 1999 decision in State of Qatar v. Al Thani [1999 JLR 118], Qatar had commenced proceedings against Sheikh Hamad, alleging that he had transferred public funds in violation of Qatari law and obtained a Mareva injunction against his assets in Jersey. Though a settlement was then reached, Sheikh Hamad failed to comply with its terms and Qatar obtained an order containing a further Mareva injunction. The decision noted that Sheikh Hamad was the Emir of Qatar from 1972 to 1995. After he was removed from office in June 1995, Qatar opened an inquiry into his use of public funds and alleged that substantial amounts of public funds had been transferred during his reign to accounts around the world, in violation of Qatari law. In October 1996, Sheikh Hamad reached a settlement agreement but failed to comply with its terms. Qatar then commenced attachment proceedings in Switzerland and elsewhere. Jersey Royal Court decision, In re Yaheeb Trust [2003 JLR 92] provides background to the effort to attach Sheikh Hamad's assets. According to a June 7, 2007 Guardian article, After the 1995 coup, Qatar was persuaded by UK Conservative defence minister Michael Portillo to sign up with BAE in a £500m arms deal called Project Nile. BAE made a secret "commission" payment of £7m in 1998 to Sheikh Hamad, the Qatari foreign minister, The cash was deposited in an offshore account operated by Grindlays Bank in Jersey, in the name of two anonymous trusts called Yaheeb and Havana. UK's Serious Fraud Office and the Jersey Attorney General both investigated the case but later dropped their investigations.

http://star.worldbank.org/corruption-cases/node/18726

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/sheikh-h...on-and-money-laundering.461180/#ixzz4QAYxVh15



Former prime minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani bought a company in 2002 that was registered in the British Virgin Islands and three others in the Bahamas.

Through these companies Thani, who is popularly known as HBJ and is worth an estimated $7bn, managed his $300mn super-yacht al-Mirqab.

In 2011, HBJ bought four companies in Panama who held bank accounts in Luxembourg, where Qatar had recently started investing due to its low taxation, according to documents dated July 2013.

The ICIJ did not reveal how much money was held in these accounts but they did reveal that two of his accounts were co-owned with the then Emir of Qatar Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who also features in the Mossack Fonseca leak through the ownership of a company in the British Virgin Islands.

The ICIJ published a copy of HBJ’s passport which was included in the leak, which showed his diplomatic status, something which the former prime minister has used recently to avoid prosecution in Britain over allegations he had a British citizen falsely imprisoned and tortured.

A spokesperson for HBJ told the ICIJ that they didn’t “have the right” to answer any questions about the leaked documents because he is “bound by professional secrecy”.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/c...leaders-revealed-panama-papers-leak-662088930

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/sheikh-h...on-and-money-laundering.461180/#ixzz4QAZ3B1eE

 

[Emmie]

Is this an affidavit or just a personal letter on a plain paper ???? ))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Just a letter on his (prince) letterhead.

True that like Sharifs the Qatri prince is also a star of Panama papers. According to Babar Awan two thieves can't bailout each other.

 

[PakSword]

آج کل پٹواری کم دکھائی دے رہے ہیں، کوئی خاص وجہ سمجھ آتی ہے آپ کو؟ پٹواری تو شریر خاندان کے ہر اچھے برے کا دفاع مذہبی فریضہ سمجھ کر کرتے تھے، معلوم نہیں اتنا چھوٹا سا کیس کیوں وبال جان بنا لیا پٹواریوں نے

 

[Spring Onion]

Just a letter on his (prince) letterhead.

True that like Sharifs the Qatri prince is also a star of Panama papers. According to Babar Awan two thieves can't bailout each other.

So if he appears in person or through video link, as witness in Pakistani SC what would be legal status of his statement ?

I mean further questioning ? like reason for such an expensive gift? was it from his personal wealth or Qatari taxpayer money?

Was that part of some kickbacks ?

If the letter was not to be disclosed to anyone as per the writer of the letter then what would be legal status in that case?

 

[Emmie]

So if he appears in person or through video link, as witness in Pakistani SC what would be legal status of his statement ?

I mean further questioning ? like reason for such an expensive gift? was it from his personal wealth or Qatari taxpayer money?

Was that part of some kickbacks ?

If the letter was not to be disclosed to anyone as per the writer of the letter then what would be legal status in that case?

Right now this letter doesn't worth more than a paper which can be stacked away without any reservations. For legality and admissibility of the letter, he (prince) has to appear before the court and as law requires has to be cross examined by the court as well as by lawyers of the petitioners. Even if the letter attains legality it does not necessarily mean that whatever it contains will be taken for it. While being cross examined he will have to satisfy the courts by backing his statements with documentary evidence -- evidence like accounts, agreements, mode of settlement etc etc.

Flats were not gifts, according to the letter, so questions about personal wealth or Qataris taxpayer money are pretty much irreverent. Prince says flats in London were registered in the ownership of two offshore companies, the bearer certificates of companies were kept in Qatar, Sharifs were allowed to use the flats because of good relationships between them and us. Basically what he says is that the prince owned those two offshore companies hence those associated flats and in 2006 as per the will of Mian Sharif the companies (bearer shares) and associated flats were transferred to Hussain Nawaz through settlement of the accounts.

If the letter was not to be disclosed to anyone as per the writer of the letter then what would be legal status in that case?

The judge asserted if Sharifs want to make this letter a part of the record then it has to be shared with all the parties, otherwise it won't be admitted. Had the council for Sharifs denied the letter wouldn't have been admitted as evidence.