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waisy @PakSword ...ek baat hai... agar aaj court ne PTI ke documents accept karnay se reject kiye hotay tu ab tak PML N walay bhtt shor machaa chukay hotay.....

lekin phir bhi...poori tarah satisfy main ab bhi nahi hun.. plzz yahan koi....zara kisi se pata kar ke aur confirm kar ke batayein... mujhe nahi pata..kahan se? lekin mujhe kisi lawyer se ..ya kisi se bhi pata kar ke batayein ke Justice khosa ke aaj ke remarks ...PTI ke submitted docs par apply hotay hain ya nahi?
 
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Yehi tu asal baat hai? Kis se poochein? :( koi lawyer yahan hai ya nahi? Ufff pllzzz mujhe is baat ka pata karna hai fauran...kr PTi ke submitted docs is remark main included hain ya nahi? Kis se poochein???? :( :( :(
pti k submitted documents pe ye remark apply NHI hota. unhon ne kaha "NEW" aur "Anymore". is remark tak jo hochukay so ho chukay. :partay:
OCD ka bera gharq ho chain se ni bethnay deta.:lol::cry:
 
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pti k submitted documents pe ye remark apply NHI hota. unhon ne kaha "NEW" aur "Anymore". is remark tak jo hochukay so ho chukay. :partay:
OCD ka bera gharq ho chain se ni bethnay deta.:lol::cry:

Lagta tu mujhe bhi yehi hai..jo aap ne kaha....lekin humaray courts ka bharosa nahi hota na..is liye har tarah ke negative khyalat aate hain zehen main

OCD? acha... obsessive compulsive disorder? Ji... main tu is case ko le kar kuch ziada hi impatient hun... :cry::cry:

Aur mujhe lagta hai ke...is forum ke buray din, phir se shuru honay walay hain ..(Is case ka verdict aany ke baad) baqi..aap khud samajhdar hain... samajh tu gaye honge :angry::angry:
 
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Read carefully the last line of this article...

http://www.dawn.com/news/1316115/sc-grills-fbr-chairman-over-panamagate


As the Supreme Court's hearing of the Panamagate case resumed on Tuesday, the bench inquired into the investigative steps that were taken by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) and the Federal Board of Revenue after the matter surfaced last year.

Presenting himself before a five-member larger bench of the apex court, FBR Chairman Muhammad Irshad told the court that notices were issued to 343 individuals following the Panama Papers leaks.

"The owners of 39 companies are not Pakistani residents and 59 people denied ownership of offshore companies," the chairman elaborated.

Irshad told the court that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's sons Hasan and Hussain Nawaz as well as his daughter Maryam had responded to the notices issued to them by the bureau in November 2016.

Elaborating on the responses of the premier's children, the chairman told the court that Maryam had denied having property abroad and being the owner of any off-shore company.

The court asked whether her response mentioned that she was the trustee of four flats located in London's upscale Park Lane neighbourhood. The chairman responded that she did not.

In the previous hearing of the case on Thursday, Advocate Salman Akram Raja, representing Hasan and Hussain Nawaz, told the apex court that the London flats had rested with Maryam for six months — between February and July 2006.

Raja told the court that a trust deed was executed between Maryam and Hussain in February 2006, following which she acted as a trustee for her brother.

Irshad also told the court that in a response submitted to the FBR, Hussain Nawaz had stated that he had resided in Saudi Arabia since 2000.

Responding to which, Justice Gulzar angrily asked the chairman if he had closed Hussain's file after the premier's son submitted his response.

"What steps did you take after receiving the responses?" Justice Khosa, who presides over the bench, asked the chairman.

The chairman's response invoked the bench's ire when he said the FBR was "verifying all the information provided by the respondents".

"It seems that you may need 30 years to verify those documents," Justice Gulzar remarked.

"You have wasted a year doing a task that should have taken hours," Justice Saeed commented.

The lawyer representing the FBR then admitted before the court that no immediate steps were taken. He argued that separate laws and institutions are available for money laundering cases.

"So in other words, what you are saying is that the FBR did not take any steps regarding money laundering," Justice Gulzar observed.

Court disappointed by NAB's position
Appearing before the apex court, NAB Chairman Qamar Zaman Chaudhry said the bureau "is aware of its responsibilities".

"NAB's position has remained that Panama [Papers case] does not come within its jurisdiction," Justice Khosa observed.

"Is this NAB's position that because no regulator approached them, investigations were not undertaken against off-shore companies?" Justice Saeed asked after Chaudhry explained that the bureau start investigative action when it is approached by a regulator.

"Laws concerning the NAB give it the authority to undertake investigations," Justice Khosa told the chairman.

"It is saddening to hear NAB's position" Justice Gulzar remarked.

"If NAB does not have the authority to investigate, who does?" Justice Ijazul Hassan asked rhetorically.

When Justice Khosa inquired about NAB's actions regarding bank accounts and monetary transactions, the chairman sought to assure the court that "investigations will be undertaken".

"NAB should act as the country's regulator," Justice Gulzar said.

The bench regretted that NAB had not registered an appeal in the Hudaibiya Paper Mills case.

Finance Minister Ishaq Dar had submitted a confessional statement regarding money laundering before a district magistrate in Lahore on April 25, 2000, confessing to involvement in laundering $14.86 million for the Sharif family.

The minister had filed a request for his acquittal from the case after which NAB had not registered any appeals.

"There are reservations regarding NAB's failure to register an appeal," the bench remarked.

"When a criminal gets bail in a case of petty theft, NAB registers an appeal. This is a case worth millions and no appeal was registered," Justice Khosa remarked.

"The decision to appeal is taken in accordance with the prosecutor general's advice. The prosecutor general of NAB had decided that there would be no point in registering an appeal. If an appeal was registered NAB would have been disgraced," the chairman explained.

"Without any pressure, what is your opinion ─ should this case have been appealed?" Justice Khosa asked the chairman. In response, the chairman declared he remains steadfast in the decision not to register an appeal.

"Then be prepared to face serious consequences," Justice Saeed warned.

AG presents arguments
Attorney General Ashtar Ausaf Ali during his arguments said he would provide legal assistance regarding the court's authority.

He said previous court rulings on disqualification could serve as examples to the bench as the petitioners seek the disqualification of the prime minister.

"This is a unique case," the attorney general said.

Justice Saeed told the attorney general that the bench had already reached a decision for the hearing of the requests submitted in the court.

"I will share my opinions regarding the law," the attorney general responded.

"Are you trying to say that the court has the authority but should not use it? Justice Afzal asked

"Authority should be used according to the facts of the case," the attorney general responded.

When Justice Saeed asked the official whether false statements were grounds for disqualification, Ali responded that the court "has to ensure a transparent trial".

"Did the court refuse to hear anyone in this case?" Justice Afzal said.

"It is not about hearing the case, it is about reaching a decision," the attorney general responded.

"It is a matter of tax evasion, the country wants to know who paid how much tax," the bench remarked.

The court asked the attorney general to complete his arguments tomorrow. Meanwhile, Justice Khosa declared that further documents in the Panamagate case will not be accepted.



Does it mean...Court will not accept any further documents from now? Or it includes documents submitted by PTI few days ago too?
These remarks of documents will not effect if some valid and relevant document is presented. Bench can accept that. IMO these remarks are for the like qatri khats, handwritten notes and of sort.
 
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Lagta tu mujhe bhi yehi hai..jo aap ne kaha....lekin humaray courts ka bharosa nahi hota na..is liye har tarah ke negative khyalat aate hain zehen main

OCD? acha... obsessive compulsive disorder? Ji... main tu is case ko le kar kuch ziada hi impatient hun... :cry::cry:

Aur mujhe lagta hai ke...is forum ke buray din, phir se shuru honay walay hain ..(Is case ka verdict aany ke baad) baqi..aap khud samajhdar hain... samajh tu gaye honge :angry::angry:
media ne new documents new documents keh keh k confusion machai hvi hai. media k context mn new documents ka matlab aur hai...thoray am fehm andaz mn bakwas karni hoti hai inhen.

remarks k context mn aur matlab hai... agar remark so called new documents submit honay k BAAD aya hai tuo.


mn tuo is shugal ko follow ni kr ra... 2-4 last posts se jo bat mere pallay parri us k teht keh ra hoon k PTI k submitted documents pe ye apply ni ho ra.

g g obsessive compulsive disorder. hum tuo sadiyon ka yarana hai is se. anxiety tuo apni mangetar hai.

ni samajh i... koi ni samajhdar shamajhdar.
 
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ni samajh i... koi ni samajhdar shamajhdar.

Agar is case ka waisa hi verdict aaya...jaisy ke humaray courts ki history ya jaisy Anwar Zaheer Jamali....ne kiya tha..ya jaisy Election rigging ka verdict aaya tha tu..

us ke baad..mera jo haal hoga..tu is forum par mere itaab(anxiety/ghussay) se kaisy bachein ge? aap ko yaad nahi..dec main jab Anwar Zaheer Jamali wala bench dissolve hua tha..us ke baad jo threads banaye thay...mujhe tu darr tha..ke mods ban hi kar dein ge mujhe..aur thread tu pakka pakka delete hoga..lekin main ne tu mods ko warn bhi kiya tha ke thread delete na karein..warna main dobara multiple ids se banaa dun gi :lol::lol: becharon ne bardasht kar hi liya mujhe...

lekin is dafa tu double reaction hoga...2 months ki hearing ke baad...agar phir courts ne koi garbar ki tu :angry:
 
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i think nawaz is going to turky for just in case scenario if he got hammered he wont come back.
 
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Agar is case ka waisa hi verdict aaya...jaisy ke humaray courts ki history ya jaisy Anwar Zaheer Jamali....ne kiya tha..ya jaisy Election rigging ka verdict aaya tha tu..

us ke baad..mera jo haal hoga..tu is forum par mere itaab(anxiety/ghussay) se kaisy bachein ge? aap ko yaad nahi..dec main jab Anwar Zaheer Jamali wala bench dissolve hua tha..us ke baad jo threads banaye thay...mujhe tu darr tha..ke mods ban hi dein ge mujhe..aur thread tu pakka pakka delete hoga..lekin main ne tu mods ko warn bhi kiya tha ke thread delete na karein..warna main dobara multiple ids se banaa dun gi :lol::lol: becharon ne bardasht kar hi liya mujhe...

lekin is dafa tu double reaction hoga...2 months ki hearing ke baad...agar phir courts ne koi garbar ki tu :angry:
wo kya kehtay hain modi ki boli mn... "shubh shubh bolo" .
darnay sharnay ki koi lorr ni.
ban ho janay k bawujood b multiple ID k bina login hone ka mantar hai. :dance3:

Lakin aisa kuch ni hoga don't worry one bit. Haq aur batil ki jung mn bilakhir haq ko e jeet'na hai. :cheers:
 
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wo kya kehtay hain modi ki boli mn... "shubh shubh bolo" .
darnay sharnay ki koi lorr ni.
ban ho janay k bawujood b multiple ID k bina login hone ka mantar hai. :dance3:

Lakin aisa kuch ni hoga don't worry one bit. Haq aur batil ki jung mn bilakhir haq ko e jeet'na hai. :cheers:

@bold... Really? mujhe tu woh mantar nahi pata... chalein acha hai....ab zuroorat parnay par...aap se woh mantar seekh lun gi :lol::lol::lol:
 
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aur aik aur baat... pti k submitted (so far) so called new documents mn agar waqeai worthwhile cheez hai tuo judge sahiban qnkar rad karen ge...kakay mannay tuo nhi k andaza na kar pyen. unless...aho... in which case kya new kya old... :rolleyes: @Farah Sohail

@bold... Really? mujhe tu woh mantar nahi pata... chalein acha hai....ab zuroorat parnay par...aap se woh mantar seekh lun gi :lol::lol::lol:
yup. tried and tested. works without a fail. every time. 8-)
 
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aur aik aur baat... pti k submitted (so far) so called new documents mn agar waqeai worthwhile cheez hai tuo judge sahiban qnkar rad karen ge...kakay mannay tuo nhi k andaza na kar pyen. unless...aho... in which case kya new kya old... :rolleyes: @Farah Sohail

@bold... you are right... agar judges ne koi garbar karni hui tu phir kya new..kya old documents.... aur agar sahi faisla (for a change) dena hua...tu saaray documents accept kar lein ge

yup. tried and tested. works without a fail. every time. 8-)

:enjoy: :enjoy: :enjoy: :lol:
 
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Is it over yet? :unsure:


@PakSword @Farah Sohail @biloo700 - you three have some stamina ... Good going!

Btw, I'm still optimistic - this all is not going to end well for NS and family. Dynasties fall and this case is just a mere stage in that spectacular fall.
 
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Abhi Kamran Shahid ka program dekha hai. Talal chaudhry ke confidence ko dekh kar mera confidence lose hogaya!

waisy @PakSword ...ek baat hai... agar aaj court ne PTI ke documents accept karnay se reject kiye hotay tu ab tak PML N walay bhtt shor machaa chukay hotay.....

lekin phir bhi...poori tarah satisfy main ab bhi nahi hun.. plzz yahan koi....zara kisi se pata kar ke aur confirm kar ke batayein... mujhe nahi pata..kahan se? lekin mujhe kisi lawyer se ..ya kisi se bhi pata kar ke batayein ke Justice khosa ke aaj ke remarks ...PTI ke submitted docs par apply hotay hain ya nahi?

Documents accept hon na hon, commission bannay ja raha hai.. Aur shayad NAB aur FBR commission ke tehet kaam karaingay.

This is my opinion..
 
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Abhi Kamran Shahid ka program dekha hai. Talal chaudhry ke confidence ko dekh kar mera confidence lose hogaya!

Documents accept hon na hon, commission bannay ja raha hai.. Aur shayad NAB aur FBR commission ke tehet kaam karaingay.

This is my opinion..

Aaj hitu NAB aur FBR ko itni sunayi hai court ne? Ab bhi agar SC ne FBR aur NAB ko involve kar liya..beshak commission ke under hi...tu hogaya kaam.... SC will lose all itscredibility, whatever is left... Kashif Abbasi said ke ...is case main Chairman NAB ko SC farigh kar dey gi..aisa hi lag raha hai....and he was present in the court... Pakora judge today remarked tht chairman NAB nataij bhugatnay ke liye tayyar hojayein.......Aur pata chalay ke ab wohi SC phir NAB aur FBR ko investigate karnay ka keh de..even after what they replied in SC... Agar .zara si bhi in (SC ke judges ) main izzat aur ghairat hogi..tu kabhi bhi SC...NAB aur FBR ko aaj ke baad is case main investigate karnay ka nahi kahay gi..even if NAB, FBR are tasked under a commission
 
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