Pakistani Politics and the Kashmir (Lost) Cause

[asq]

It takes a heavy heart for a person of brilliance, dedication and experience like Ashraf Javed Qazi to write an article with a more than clear hint of capitulation on Kashmir to India. Mr. Qazi must have fought for Pakistan's Kashmir case in various international forums including during his stint as Pakistan's ambassador to India. No doubt the posted article is written out of the despair felt by him and many other Pakistanis because of the political dramas in Pakistan over the decades but especially because of the latest ones. He, like me, doesn't see 'political stability' even when there is change in govt. due to current agitation. While 9/11 led to the weakening of the Pakistani 'Deep State' the latest crises are going to lead to LoC = IB solution.

Kashmir: a way forward - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

Now your deduction are based on hatred , your feelings about nothing will improve in Pakistan after the change, you sir are talking to please enemies of Pakistan and that is a shame,

No country on the face of this earth could do what Pakistan did in the last 30 years, fighting to rid this world of rouges, lairs and oppressors, and has not only survived but is at the edge of coming a modern and vibrant country if like of you support it and see the truth in its entirety, for so long Pakistan has sustained internal and external threats but has come out it with flying colors, some work is in progress and Inshallah it will be finished soon.
011 did not lead Pakistan to its weakening but strengthen it as the Armed forces got the experience of a life time in few years. now Pakistan has elite force recognized by the world as power to content with, Pakistan has withstood the challenges of various kind about its Nuclear assets,and about every other matter thrown at it, But Pakistan has come through it with flying colors and will full fill all its obligations and requirements as a great Nation in the years to come by. so stop undermining and start supporting it as Patriotic Pakistani.

 

[livingdead]

the author is a pakistani and hence have pakistan centric view.. but its not a lost cause for kashmiris...
I understand pakistan govt does not have much positive influence there (negative influence does not work and has adverse consequence for all).. but Indian govt can do many positive things to make kashmiris live better... we need to talk.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

So people on your side who have never been to the Kashmir Valley or know of anyone from there are now experts because they reside in the same geographic location?

theyre Kashmiris and many in fact do have family relations on both sides....which is why whenever indians try to suspend the bus service, the occupied region (esp. the valley) erupts in anger and rebellion

 

[livingdead]

according to who is it a "lost cause"

the indians (who dont matter) or Kashmiris? to the latter it is never a lost cause

LoC however will always be a flash point until the issue is resolved...what india calls "terrorism" in Kashmir will also continue as well

the stick does not work.. and actually counterproductive when we get hold of your stick and start beating you..
try dangling some carrot.. if it does not work.. try more ..

 

[Kabira]

No doubt Chenab formula is ultimate solution to Kashmir problem. Basically mean muslim majority areas goes to Pakistan and hindu majority areas to India.

 

[Bang Galore]

No doubt Chenab formula is ultimate solution to Kashmir problem. Basically mean muslim majority areas goes to Pakistan and hindu majority areas to India.

Which basically means you want something for nothing. No incentive for India (what does Pakistan offer India?) & India can never agree on a formula based on religion considering its population. Essentially it means, you are not going to get anything.

 

[Kabira]

Which basically means you want something for nothing. No incentive for India (what does Pakistan offer India?) & India can never agree on a formula based on religion considering its population. Essentially it means, you are not going to get anything.

Its not about Pakistan getting anything but IoKashmiris being free. Also hindus in IoK are pahari types racially who have more in common with Uttarkhand, Himachel or Nepal for exemple. While Kashmiri muslims are distinct and related to Pakistanis. So its not about only religion.

 

[Bang Galore]

Its not about Pakistan getting anything but IoKashmiris being free. Also hindus in IoK are pahari types racially who have more in common with Uttarkhand, Himachel or Nepal for exemple. While Kashmiri muslims are distinct and related to Pakistanis. So its not about only religion.

Regardless of what you may wish, India isn't about to humour you........

 

[Kabira]

Regardless of what you may wish, India isn't about to humour you........

I just wish article 370 to be intact as long as status quo remains. Thats why status quo is acceptable to Pakistan instead of making LOK as IB.

 

[Bang Galore]

I just wish article 370 to be intact as long as status quo remains. Thats why status quo is acceptable to Pakistan instead of making LOK as IB.

Status quo is fine to India too. It is why Pakistan is always the one wanting to discuss Kashmir, never India.

 

[Kabira]

Status quo is fine to India too. It is why Pakistan is always the one wanting to discuss Kashmir, never India.

India is one desperate to remove article 370 which is not acceptable to Pakistan.

 

[Bang Galore]

India is one desperate to remove article 370 which is not acceptable to Pakistan.

Won't be your choice but there is no desperation. It is not likely to happen regardless of the talk around it for political reasons.

 

[Kabira]

Won't be your choice but there is no desperation. It is not likely to happen regardless of the talk around it for political reasons.

Only fear of Pakistan is stopping India from removing article 370. And the fact that Kashmiris do not want anything to do with Indians, but don't mind budget provided by Delhi.

 

[sree45]

Only fear of Pakistan is stopping India from removing article 370. And the fact that Kashmiris do not want anything to do with Indians, but don't mind budget provided by Delhi.

Fear of pakistan?

Article 370 exists because some kashmiris want it and we are building a consensus to remove it.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

is the revolt in Kashmir against Pakistan or against india....thats the question you should be asking