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Pakistani Politics and the Kashmir (Lost) Cause

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It takes a heavy heart for a person of brilliance, dedication and experience like Ashraf Javed Qazi to write an article with a more than clear hint of capitulation on Kashmir to India. Mr. Qazi must have fought for Pakistan's Kashmir case in various international forums including during his stint as Pakistan's ambassador to India. No doubt the posted article is written out of the despair felt by him and many other Pakistanis because of the political dramas in Pakistan over the decades but especially because of the latest ones. He, like me, doesn't see 'political stability' even when there is change in govt. due to current agitation. While 9/11 led to the weakening of the Pakistani 'Deep State' the latest crises are going to lead to LoC = IB solution.

Kashmir: a way forward - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
WHY is Kashmir still important for us? Leave aside history, religion and the many other links, Pakistan as a legal party to the dispute has an obligation to uphold and promote the right of self-determination of the Kashmiri people. If it walks away from this obligation it diminishes itself as a nation.

Certainly, we have even greater obligations to our own people who have been blithely ignored and we are, accordingly, diminished both geographically and morally. We have already paid a large enough price for supporting the rights of our Kashmiri brethren. We are also overwhelmed by other issues that threaten to sink us. Accordingly, it is sometimes suggested, if we improve our relations with India the Kashmir dispute will somehow resolve itself. After all, it is an imperfect world, and we will continue to say all the right things in support of Kashmiri rights!

However, a country undermines its raison d’être if either it cannot provide minimally acceptable governance to its own people, or is derelict with regard to the internationally acknowledged rights of a people, for the effective support of which it assumed legal responsibility.

This is no argument for adventurism or minimising engagement with India. It is an argument for statesmanship, policy formulation and public communication and education of the very highest order to deal with an extremely complex and entrenched set of issues and attitudes. Given the state of our governance and our unspeakable politics today, is there any chance of this happening?

Coordinating our negotiating position with Kashmiri opinion, especially in the Valley, is essential.
Whatever the chances, we should seek to improve the quality and range of our cooperation with India and improve the prospect of moving it from a policy stance that precludes progress towards a mutually acceptable Kashmir settlement to one that opens up possibilities for it. Some argue that the 2004-2007 ‘backchannel’ talks achieved precisely this.

Indeed, progress was made. Our foreign minister at the time claimed an “interim” agreement, based on the territorial status quo, de-militarisation, a “soft LOC” and limited sovereignty over Kashmir for each of the parties, was just a signature away. This agreement may have provided a framework for future negotiations. But at the time it was “a submarine that could not surface” because public opinion was completely unprepared for the concessions and deviations from formal positions involved.

Musharraf’s proposal in December 2003 “to set aside the UN resolutions on Kashmir” did not help either since they provide the legal basis for Pakistan’s status as an interlocutor and rejecting India’s claim that Kashmir acceded to it.

Coordinating our negotiating position with Kashmiri opinion, especially in the Valley, is essential. So is ensuring our stance stays within the framework of UN resolutions. Accordingly, bringing Kashmiri representatives (not just from the All Parties Hurriyat Conference) into a “tripartite” arrangement for a negotiated solution must become a policy priority. A backchannel option should only be used for troubleshooting whenever an impasse develops.

Pakistan should also present its case on the basis of Article 257 of its Constitution which concedes the essence of the third option in a way that is compatible with existing UN resolutions. Even if a compromise settlement with India is the best we can hope for, it will be important for the Pakistani and Kashmiri negotiating positions to be consistent with UN resolutions during the negotiating process. Meanwhile, it will be important to extend the full benefits of Article 257 to Azad Kashmir which currently enjoys less autonomy than India-held Kashmir. This will also have a positive impact on opinion in the Valley.

Narendra Modi seeks to bring about a “paradigm shift” aimed at altogether excluding Pakistan from a Kashmir settlement. The reasons cited for the cancellation of foreign secretary-level talks were indicative of this shift. Modi is moving towards dismantling Article 370 of the Indian constitution which accorded “special status” to IHK on its fraudulent “accession” to India.

For this purpose, he is employing a “3P” (Prakash, Paryavaran, Paryatan ie energy, environment and tourism) development strategy combined with the infamous black laws to obtain a BJP-led majority — or 44 seats in an 87-member IHK assembly.

This could result in IHK having its first ever BJP chief minister, and facilitate a “trifurcation” policy that would, according to some reports, provide union territory status to Ladakh, separate Jammu from the Valley, and enable the Pandits who fled the Valley to return to their homes. The path to significant investment and demographic engineering could open up. The majority of the residents of the Valley would increasingly be confronted with the grim choice of resistance or resignation.

Talks with Pakistan on Kashmir would then be confined to ensuring “respect for the LoC” in accordance with the Simla Agreement and the implementation of trans-LoC confidence-building measures to consolidate the status quo. There would be no joint mechanisms, no limitation on Indian sovereignty over IHK and no role for the UN resolutions. Modi seems to believe this is the way to confront Pakistan with a fait accompli and make its acceptance a condition for structured dialogue, including sterile exchanges on Kashmir, culminating in a triumphant visit to Pakistan to seal the deal.

The soft option for Pakistan is to lose its cool in the face of Indian obduracy and lose the game, as has repeatedly happened. The honest option is to accept there is no short-term solution to Kashmir and violent short cuts have only led to frustration, isolation and blowbacks that weaken our national fabric. For leaders to suggest otherwise is to lie to the people.

However daunting the prospect, we must put in place the building blocks for a successful longer-term strategy for a mutually acceptable settlement. This must entail movement on all sides and, as a first step, improving the human rights situation in IHK. This should provide the thrust of the prime minister’s brief for a one-to-one meeting with Modi in New York. Despite many mutual misgivings, the development of a personal relationship based on mutual confidence and trust should be a priority for both leaders.

The writer is a former ambassador to the US, India and China and head of UN missions in Iraq and Sudan.

Published in Dawn, September 23rd, 2014
 
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according to who is it a "lost cause"

the indians (who dont matter) or Kashmiris? to the latter it is never a lost cause

LoC however will always be a flash point until the issue is resolved...what india calls "terrorism" in Kashmir will also continue as well
 
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Mr. Qazi must have fought for Pakistan's Kashmir case in various international forums including during his stint as Pakistan's ambassador to India.

Is an emissary sent to a country to fight on issues, or rather to create a conducive atmosphere and aid in relations? Kind of a wrong portfolio and clear case of failure to his diplomatic duties if he did...The same is the case with the present emissary who is more of an embarrassment to his host than of any practical use.
 
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according to who is it a "lost cause"

the indians (who dont matter) or Kashmiris? to the latter it is never a lost cause

LoC however will always be a flash point until the issue is resolved...what india calls "terrorism" in Kashmir will also continue as well
And we are more than ok with that too. :tup:
 
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Kashmir "cause" for Pakistan is just like Palestinian failed cause for the Arab world. None of these hypocrite causes were ever successful though. Pakistan lost its economic powerhouse province of Bengal to Bangladesh while Palestinian Arabs lost their West Bank and Gaza to Israel. LOL :D
 
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according to who is it a "lost cause"
the indians (who dont matter) or Kashmiris? to the latter it is never a lost cause
LoC however will always be a flash point until the issue is resolved...what india calls "terrorism" in Kashmir will also continue as well

The 'lost cause' is for Pakistan to even get the Chenab Formula accepted. Dr. Qazi had hinted the 'status quo' being desired under Musharraf. Sadly, the bargaining chips Pakistan had even then are being lost. Basically, Dr. Qazi is asking us to accept whatever we can now as salvage.
Yes, I know it is grave injustice to the Valley Kashmiris.

Is an emissary sent to a country to fight on issues, or rather to create a conducive atmosphere and aid in relations? Kind of a wrong portfolio and clear case of failure to his diplomatic duties if he did...The same is the case with the present emissary who is more of an embarrassment to his host than of any practical use.

Pakistan's ambassador to India was no different that the US ambassador to Pakistan when it came to 'explaining' Pakistan's 'position' on Kashmir. Mr. Qazi is a briliant veteran diplomat whose writings can be Googled. In my opinion, what he has written today, is not-so-hidden' message to salvage the situation and move on.
 
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Kashmir "cause" for Pakistan is just like Palestinian failed cause for the Arab world. None of these hypocrite causes were ever successful though. Pakistan lost its economic powerhouse province of Bengal to Bangladesh while Palestinian Arabs lost their West Bank and Gaza to Israel. LOL :D

True, these two 'causes' have suffered a lot since late 40's but they were never 'hypocritical'. And why the 'LOL'?
 
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Pakistan's ambassador to India was no different that the US ambassador to Pakistan when it came to 'explaining' Pakistan's 'position' on Kashmir. Mr. Qazi is a briliant veteran diplomat whose writings can be Googled. In my opinion, what he has written today, is not-so-hidden' message to salvage the situation and move on.

I have nothing against this person, I don't even know him or how he fared in his stints. ..my contention was with what you said about him fighting for kasmir when he was an ambassador in India...An ambassador is meant to smoothen things out and strive to maintain relations. ..not get involved into dispute clearance or fight for a cause.
 
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I have nothing against this person, I don't even know him or how he fared in his stints. ..my contention was with what you said about him fighting for kasmir when he was an ambassador in India...An ambassador is meant to smoothen things out and strive to maintain relations. ..not get involved into dispute clearance or fight for a cause.
You are taking 'fighting' too literally. What if in a seminar inside India, he was asked about Pakistan's 'support for terrorism inside India'. To that he would have probably said: 'Pakistan is against terroristm in all forms and that Pakistan considered Kashmiri right of self determination as its official polic' (etc ,etc). And his job would be to also 'smooth out' any wrinkles in relations on day to day basis.
 
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True, these two 'causes' have suffered a lot since late 40's but they were never 'hypocritical'. And why the 'LOL'?
Of course they were hypocritical. True and righteous causes never fail to materialize in practical world. Jewish nationalism in Palestine (Zionism succeeded in 1948), Muslim Nationalism in India (Pakistan movement succeeded in 1947) etc. What came later on with Kashmir-cause, Palestinian-cause and post-Zionist cause were not just nationalist causes but pure greed for illegal land grab. That's why Israel never succeeded in legalizing its illegal occupation of West Bank / Gaza, why India always failed to keep peace in Kashmir, and why Pakistan lost to capture whole Kashmir militarily from India. LOL :D
 
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As someone from Jammu, I think I have a better perspective on the situation then most Pakistani "experts". Referendum would never work, to many "foreign elements" are active in the Kashmir valley.
 
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You are taking 'fighting' too literally. What if in a seminar inside India, he was asked about Pakistan's 'support for terrorism inside India'. To that he would have probably said: 'Pakistan is against terroristm in all forms and that Pakistan considered Kashmiri right of self determination as its official polic' (etc ,etc). And his job would be to also 'smooth out' any wrinkles in relations on day to day basis.

the result will be same as someone in pakistan, was asked about india's role in supporting BLA.. and he/she would reply that india is against terrorism in any form and india consider balochistan's right of self determination as its official policy.....

almost every country faces these kind of problems of seeking an independence.. india, pakistan, china, britain, sri lanka and many other countries have similar problems... it is better for neighbouring countries not to interfere in others internal matters
 
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As someone from Jammu, I think I have a better perspective on the situation then most Pakistani "experts". Referendum would never work, to many "foreign elements" are active in the Kashmir valley.
You are wrong. If it was never gonna work, why it was never tried to prove it? Also a referendum must be held simultaneously in Pakistan occupied Kashmir and China occupied Kashmir regions
 
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You are wrong. If it was never gonna work, why it was never tried to prove it? Also a referendum must be held simultaneously in Pakistan occupied Kashmir and China occupied Kashmir regions
That's stupid, if it is known that foreign elements are active in a region then why would a referendum be carried out when those elements would attempt to threaten and coerce the local population. We have seen this before with the expulsion of the Kashmiri Pandits.
 
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That's stupid, if it is known that foreign elements are active in a region then why would a referendum be carried out when those elements would attempt to threaten and coerce the local population. We have seen this before with the expulsion of the Kashmiri Pandits.

Kashmiri Pundits? If they are hindus, why has India failed to protect them?
 
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