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Pakistan likely to extend MFN status to India

SAARC Chamber urges MFN status for India

Tuesday, May 11, 2010
By Shahnawaz Akhter

KARACHI:
The trade association of the South Asian countries has asked Islamabad to grant most-favoured nation (MFN) status to India, which would not only bring down the cost of imports, but give Pakistani exports an access to the vast Indian market.

Pakistan can benefit not only by accessing a big market for its exports, but save foreign exchange by substituting its expensive imports from the rest of the world with those from India, a report prepared by the SAARC Chamber said.


Granting MFN status to India should be perceived as an economic obligation instead of political obligation, the report said. However, the chamber said that granting MFN status would not work in its true perspective until India settles the protracted Kashmir issue with Pakistan under the UN resolutions. It also urged India to give a fair share of water to Pakistan to boost economic and trade ties.

The office-bearers of SAARC Chamber recently welcomed the dialogue between the heads of the state of the two countries at SAARC conference in Bhutan.

The report said that historically India and Pakistan should have been each other’s biggest and most important trading partners. In 1948/49, Pakistan’s exports to India were 56 per cent of its total exports, while imports stood at 32 per cent of the country’s total imports.

The trade between the two countries suffered during the two wars of 1965 and 1971, and for a period of nine years (1965-1974) the trade was almost negligible. “Since 1996, trade between the two countries has been at much higher levels than before. In that year, India granted MFN status to Pakistan. Pakistan in turn increased its list of permissible import items to 600, which in 2008 has increased to 1,968 items at eight-digit level of H.S. Code,” the report said.

After 1996, even though trade between the two countries has been fluctuating, the level of trade has been higher than that achieved in 1996, it said, adding that the trade stood at $180 million in 1996 and in 2004 it was $537 million.

“As the result of confidence-building measures taken by the respective governments the trade between two countries crossed $1.34 billion in 2007/08, showing five times growth since 2000-01,” the report said.

The SAARC Chamber highlighted the reasons of illegal and third country trade between the two countries due to non-resolution of political issues. “The volume of the illegal and third country trade estimated at $2-3 billion involves goods such as chemicals, industrial machinery, spices, tyres, tea medicines, videotapes, cosmetics and viscose fibre,” it said. These goods find their way either through third markets such as Dubai and Singapore or through smuggling, it added.

However, the volume of unofficial trade indicates tremendous potential between the two countries. “If the illegal trade is altered into the official business, the current volume of trade may touch $6 billion-mark coupled with the huge revenue gains for the two countries.”

The report said that Pakistan imported on higher prices from rest of the world and suggested, “If Pakistan import items, which are not manufactured in the country and are being imported from the rest of the world from India, it can save foreign exchange of $2 billion.”

The SAARC Chamber identified potential of bilateral trade between the two countries, in which both Pakistan and India can complement each other’s needs and, hence, produce cost-effective quality goods.

It mentioned that steel prices in Pakistan could reduce to half by trading with India. “Iron-ore is an important raw material for steel industries, but on account of the lack of heavy engineering industry, Pakistan has to import iron and steel of $300-400 million per annum. By importing iron and steel from India the prices in Pakistan will be reduced to half.” Likewise, rather than importing transport vehicles of over $2 billion from the rest of the world, Pakistan can import them from India, resulting in saving of 25 per cent foreign exchange, it said.

Pakistan imports pharmaceutical products of over Rs350 million per annum. Indian pharmaceutical products being 30 per cent cheaper than Pakistani products can also help save foreign exchange, it said.

“At present, Pakistan imports machinery, including textiles and pharma of over $3 billion per annum as there is no high-tech textile machinery industry in the country. We anticipate that the opening of trade with India would help Pakistan acquire this machinery directly at much lower prices rather than high cost machinery from Germany,î the chamber suggested.

Liberalised Pakistan-India trade and establishment of joint ventures in the agriculture sector, especially in the areas of food processing and packaging is expected to generate around 0.27 million jobs in India and 0.17 million jobs in Pakistan.

Since the energy demand is likely to record higher growth in the years to come, there is a potential for cooperation between the two countries in electricity generation by utilising coal, it said. India is the only country, which has naphtha cracking facilities. Pakistan can put up a naphtha cracker plant in collaboration with India. It can export the surplus to other markets in the region after meeting its own requirements of the product, the report recommended. Pakistan imports about 4.5 million tons of diesel per annum, mostly from Kuwait. The import of diesel from India will lower the cost due to lower transportation cost, it said.
SAARC Chamber urges MFN status for India


SAARC Chamber urges MFN status for India
 
MFN status to India beneficial for Pakistan

By Sajid Chaudhry


ISLAMABAD: Local and international trade research studies have revealed that restoration of normal trade relations or grant of the Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status to India could be beneficial to Pakistan in broader terms.

A presentation, made to the International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) Mission on Pak-India Trade Relations last week, analysed negative and positive aspects of the issue and summed up that perceptions against grant of the MFN status to India were based on fears, a government official told Daily Times on Monday.

The official said that it has been a consistent stand of the government that resolution of the core issue of Kashmir is a cornerstone of Pakistan’s policy for India. The Ministry of Commerce, however, could not make any comments on this aspect of foreign policy, he added.

The arguments in favour of grant of the MFN status to India are as follow:

— Pakistan needs to caste aside its defensive approach viz-a-viz trade with India and should engage India commercially with confidence. The fears are exaggerated and benefits to the economy in the long run will far outweigh the costs.

— Consumers will benefit form liberalization of the trade regime with India because some cheaper Indian products will be available to them.

— The local manufacturers, due to competition with Indian products will be required to be more efficient, which will make them competitive even in the international market, boosting our exports in the long run.

— The manufacturing sector will be able to procure raw materials and intermediary goods form India at lower prices, which may enable them to compete with India in its domestic market as well as internationally.

— A liberalized trade regime with India will be appreciated by world buyers and will make it easier for Pakistan to join important regional blocs such as Bangkok Agreement and ASEAN. India has been blocking our entry into regional trading arrangements with the argument that Pakistan has not granted the MFN status to India.

The views against grant of the full MFN status to India are as follows:

— India is a large economy with exportable surplus and diversified products. The export of textile is only 20 percent of the global Indian exports where 60-70 percent of our exports consist of textiles. India will export a large number of items, including consumer goods, which will disrupt the local industry, resulting in loss of jobs and an increase in poverty.

— In case the manufacturers of Pakistan make India their major source of supply of raw materials, it might give India room to manipulate supplies at critical times, resulting in commercial as well as a strategic damage.

— The balance of trade will heavily tilt in favour of India. Although World Bank studies indicate that the global balance of trade of Pakistan will be positively affected (for the import of cheaper raw materials), it has to be seen whether the balance of trade in favour India will be acceptable optically.

— India provides subsidies to agriculture as well as to many other exported items, resulting in unfair trade practices, which will enable the Indian goods to have a larger market share in Pakistan.

An analysis of the arguments reveals that the perceptions against grant of the MFN status to India are based on fears. The analysis of the arguments can be summed up as follows:

— Grant of the MFN status to India may simultaneously be coupled with effectively putting in place unfair trade remedial measures to combat dumping, subsidies on exports and certain surge in imports, causing or threatening to cause serious injury to local manufacturers/producers. International laws of these aspects are already in place, which may be activated by the National Tariff Commission (NTC) to enable the government to take appropriate measures promptly.

— Major manufacturers always keep alternative sources of supplies and it is not likely that India will become the only source of the supply of raw materials and intermediary goods to the local industry.

— The balance of trade may not be viewed only in the context of bilateral trade with India. In case our global balance of trade becomes more favourable, Pakistan will be a gainer. The argument of the World Bank in this respect has substantial merits.

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india will get
1)one thing india will get, is the route to the mid east.
2)also the import frm the mid east.
3)also the reach to the pak market.import and export to pak market.
pak will get

1)can get access to the route to the east through india
2)as mentioned india was blocking pak into asean,it can be resolved.
3)reach to the indian market.import frm india at cheap rates,wat u get frm international market at high rates.

i dont think there will be loass of jobs,if it happens with pak same is with india.u can take example of china india..
 
Actually the reverse.. If the business is started with the right approach, it will remove/reduce the need for smuggling.

why than in Bangladesh where u have business deals, smuggling flourishes.
 
Yes they do. Just as live-stock is bred and killed in India to fill Indian stomachs. As for the live-stock themselves, they have no hang-ups (AFAIK); they are willing to fill any stomach that eats them.
But on the other hand both countries can trade mangoes for example. i've tasted Pakistani mangoes and they tasted great (nearly as good as Indian ones ;)) Please don't accuse me of 'jingoism'.
How about exporting some cotton for instance- will make some great shirts!:cheers:


So the cow is not holy anymore.
 
You are dillusionede man ASQ...I hope i can help but its too late now....


You know that Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan also came to India...Is he a traitor as well???? Buddy you have no idea but with this one stroke of line you called a good chunk of your populace as traitor....




This further prooves you have 0 knowledge about economics...B/W when you opened markets to China did they flood it with cheap goods and your markets went bankrupt???



You have lost it...



Trust is not a baby which India and Pakistan can produce by inter-course....This can only come by engagement....Anyways what's the point of teaching you...You already know everything....


Buddy those who go to India for selfish reason are not true Pakistanis. Islam tels us that it is not wise to go to a land who is known to have killed Muslims.

I do not support those who do.
 
Buddy those who go to India for selfish reason are not true Pakistanis. Islam tels us that it is not wise to go to a land who is known to have killed Muslims.

I do not support those who do.

There is nothing wrong in going to India as long as they don't forget that they are Pakistanis e.g Adnan Sami. However it is these singers that project our soft image to India otherwise you know how Indians view us. So i don't see why we should be offended by that.
 
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While there is no harm in opening trade with India

As genuinely I do feel there is some love for Pakistan on other side as well - but ....we need to have better communication to stop terrorist

Becasue if we have one other incident like Bombay its quite distressful to derail trust and positive emotions

There are alot of old tycoons and powerful people who do not want peace due to personal political reasons on both sides which is the biggest risk

From economical stand point of view , if Indian - China - Pakistan - Russia - Turkey
unit , I mean that would be the most dominant force for 1000-3000 years
 
There is nothing wrong in going to India as long as they don't forget that they are Pakistanis e.g Adnan Sami. However it is these singers that project our soft image to India otherwise you know how Indians view us. So i don't see why we should be offended by that.

i must thank you for allowing your performers to come to India. Talent must be allowed to flourish wherever it can.
And BTW, the people in India who really care for the better things in life (which is quite a large number) are not so discriminatory. Its the confused (fence-sitters who are many as well) who need to know, and this is a good way. :cheers:
 
SAARC Chamber urges MFN status for India

Tuesday, May 11, 2010
By Shahnawaz Akhter

KARACHI:
The trade association of the South Asian countries has asked Islamabad to grant most-favoured nation (MFN) status to India, which would not only bring down the cost of imports, but give Pakistani exports an access to the vast Indian market.

Pakistan can benefit not only by accessing a big market for its exports, but save foreign exchange by substituting its expensive imports from the rest of the world with those from India, a report prepared by the SAARC Chamber said.


Granting MFN status to India should be perceived as an economic obligation instead of political obligation, the report said. However, the chamber said that granting MFN status would not work in its true perspective until India settles the protracted Kashmir issue with Pakistan under the UN resolutions. It also urged India to give a fair share of water to Pakistan to boost economic and trade ties.

The office-bearers of SAARC Chamber recently welcomed the dialogue between the heads of the state of the two countries at SAARC conference in Bhutan.

The report said that historically India and Pakistan should have been each other’s biggest and most important trading partners. In 1948/49, Pakistan’s exports to India were 56 per cent of its total exports, while imports stood at 32 per cent of the country’s total imports.

The trade between the two countries suffered during the two wars of 1965 and 1971, and for a period of nine years (1965-1974) the trade was almost negligible. “Since 1996, trade between the two countries has been at much higher levels than before. In that year, India granted MFN status to Pakistan. Pakistan in turn increased its list of permissible import items to 600, which in 2008 has increased to 1,968 items at eight-digit level of H.S. Code,” the report said.

After 1996, even though trade between the two countries has been fluctuating, the level of trade has been higher than that achieved in 1996, it said, adding that the trade stood at $180 million in 1996 and in 2004 it was $537 million.

“As the result of confidence-building measures taken by the respective governments the trade between two countries crossed $1.34 billion in 2007/08, showing five times growth since 2000-01,” the report said.

The SAARC Chamber highlighted the reasons of illegal and third country trade between the two countries due to non-resolution of political issues. “The volume of the illegal and third country trade estimated at $2-3 billion involves goods such as chemicals, industrial machinery, spices, tyres, tea medicines, videotapes, cosmetics and viscose fibre,” it said. These goods find their way either through third markets such as Dubai and Singapore or through smuggling, it added.

However, the volume of unofficial trade indicates tremendous potential between the two countries. “If the illegal trade is altered into the official business, the current volume of trade may touch $6 billion-mark coupled with the huge revenue gains for the two countries.”

The report said that Pakistan imported on higher prices from rest of the world and suggested, “If Pakistan import items, which are not manufactured in the country and are being imported from the rest of the world from India, it can save foreign exchange of $2 billion.”

The SAARC Chamber identified potential of bilateral trade between the two countries, in which both Pakistan and India can complement each other’s needs and, hence, produce cost-effective quality goods.

It mentioned that steel prices in Pakistan could reduce to half by trading with India. “Iron-ore is an important raw material for steel industries, but on account of the lack of heavy engineering industry, Pakistan has to import iron and steel of $300-400 million per annum. By importing iron and steel from India the prices in Pakistan will be reduced to half.” Likewise, rather than importing transport vehicles of over $2 billion from the rest of the world, Pakistan can import them from India, resulting in saving of 25 per cent foreign exchange, it said.

Pakistan imports pharmaceutical products of over Rs350 million per annum. Indian pharmaceutical products being 30 per cent cheaper than Pakistani products can also help save foreign exchange, it said.

“At present, Pakistan imports machinery, including textiles and pharma of over $3 billion per annum as there is no high-tech textile machinery industry in the country. We anticipate that the opening of trade with India would help Pakistan acquire this machinery directly at much lower prices rather than high cost machinery from Germany,î the chamber suggested.

Liberalised Pakistan-India trade and establishment of joint ventures in the agriculture sector, especially in the areas of food processing and packaging is expected to generate around 0.27 million jobs in India and 0.17 million jobs in Pakistan.

Since the energy demand is likely to record higher growth in the years to come, there is a potential for cooperation between the two countries in electricity generation by utilising coal, it said. India is the only country, which has naphtha cracking facilities. Pakistan can put up a naphtha cracker plant in collaboration with India. It can export the surplus to other markets in the region after meeting its own requirements of the product, the report recommended. Pakistan imports about 4.5 million tons of diesel per annum, mostly from Kuwait. The import of diesel from India will lower the cost due to lower transportation cost, it said.
SAARC Chamber urges MFN status for India


SAARC Chamber urges MFN status for India

IMO, giving MFN status to India is not a political obligation, but an economic choice. But a choice that can be extremely beneficial. Let Pakistan make a reasoned assessment and come to that choice, while addressing the real concerns of its own industry and commerce. But it would be unwise to tie down economic measures to political objectives. Unless those economic measures can be used to achieve political aims. IMHO, that is not the case here. But its for Pakistan and its people to decide.:wave:
 
Trade experts consider MFN clauses to have the following benefits


A country that grants MFN on imports will have its imports provided by the most efficient supplier. This may not be the case if tariffs differ by country.

MFN allows smaller countries, in particular, to participate in the advantages that larger countries often grant to each other, whereas on their own, smaller countries would often not be powerful enough to negotiate such advantages by themselves.


Granting MFN has domestic benefits: having one set of tariffs for all countries simplifies the rules and makes them more transparent. It also lessens the frustrating problem of having to establish rules of origin to determine which country a product (that may contain parts from all over the world) must be attributed to for customs purposes.


MFN restrains domestic special interests from obtaining protectionist measures. For example, butter producers in country A may not be able to lobby for high tariffs on butter to prevent cheap imports from developing country B, because, as the higher tariffs would apply to every country, the interests of A's principal ally C might get impaired.

As MFN clauses promote non-discrimination among countries, they also tend to promote the objective of free trade in general.
 
The highlighted part in your post shows your ignorance. You guys like to give examples of US and Israel but dont you get it India is no USA and nor is Pakistan Iraq. Similarly India is no Israel and Pakistan Palestine. Had this been the case we would have seen India over running Pakistan long ago and hurt us in ways surpassing that of both the US and Israel( after all what can a muslim expect from a hindu bania). And one more thing if India wasnt dying for trade with Pakistan it wouldnt have given Pakistan the status of MFN. Do you think it has happened in all goodness......give me a break.
You guys are so desperate in trying to get land access from Pakistan to Afghanistan and yet have the audacity to talk trash. Your high talks make us laugh. You dont wanna trade with Pakistan why dont you guys take your MFN status back and stuck it where the sun does not shine.

Well I am under no illusions and know very well that India is no US and Pakistan is no Iraq .However to DOMESTICATE Pakistan one doesnt need to be US. One only needs to be an economic powerhouse with a diplomatic clout( On both fronts India is doing well).Maybe today we dont have control over many things that Pakistan does against India's interests but I dont see any reason why India cant make Pakistan cry everytime there is some mischeif from the other side of the border.

Another thing is that not every Indian is a hindu and not every hindu is a bania. But I guess people in Pakistan who claim to have a psuedo-secular nation wont understand that. Multiplicity in Pakistan is all but absent.Case in point is the decline in the population of Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan ( In India however , Muslims have not only risen in numbers but also are more prosperous than before)

India is a democracy and everybody has the right to his/her opinion. Now if in someone's opinion access to Aghanistan through Pakistan is a good idea then so be it. To be its better to commit suicide. When one see's blasts near to all the major cities in Pakistan how can one really see that the road to Afghanistan isnt going to be attacked.There are much better ways to access Afghanistan.
 
Well I am under no illusions and know very well that India is no US and Pakistan is no Iraq .However to DOMESTICATE Pakistan one doesnt need to be US. One only needs to be an economic powerhouse with a diplomatic clout( On both fronts India is doing well).Maybe today we dont have control over many things that Pakistan does against India's interests but I dont see any reason why India cant make Pakistan cry everytime there is some mischeif from the other side of the border.

Another thing is that not every Indian is a hindu and not every hindu is a bania. But I guess people in Pakistan who claim to have a psuedo-secular nation wont understand that. Multiplicity in Pakistan is all but absent.Case in point is the decline in the population of Hindus and Sikhs in Pakistan ( In India however , Muslims have not only risen in numbers but also are more prosperous than before)

India is a democracy and everybody has the right to his/her opinion. Now if in someone's opinion access to Aghanistan through Pakistan is a good idea then so be it. To be its better to commit suicide. When one see's blasts near to all the major cities in Pakistan how can one really see that the road to Afghanistan isnt going to be attacked.There are much better ways to access Afghanistan.

Not only are you living under some sort of illusion but also ignorance since it is evident from your post that you have absolutely no clue of Indias strategic limitations and Pakistans geostrategic importance. Here is another article posted in the same section. Go read it before day dreaming

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/63643-india-now-wants-talk-pakistan-about-afghanistan.html

Now tell me why does India wants to talk to Pakistan if according to you there are much better ways to access Afghanistan.
 


Sorry but I dont read artciles of people who term India as Bharat for the usuage of the word is enough to justify their inherent bias.

The truth is that there is not always a single solution for a problem and also that the solution which is always the convinient one isnt always the best one.

India trying the road thing to Afghanistan is a convinient decision at best. There are more solutions to the problem of exporting goods and sooner or later people will cap into them.
 

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