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[fatman17]

In PAF histroy, 1998 2008 one reason for high A-5 accident rate identified by the PAF was no dual seater and using FT-6 with high thrust ratio of .83 vs A5 .68 as major factor. A5 being nose heavy and its hyralic driven control system being same for F6 and A5 needing more mussel power. The PAF was flying A5 like a fighter rather than ground attack /CAS and pilot went into uncontrolled loop/spin etc. I guess for JF-17 because of flight simulators now this may not be the case, so dual seater is not high priority. Secondly PAF/Pak has to pay for its development.
First 150 will replace 2 A5 and 6 additional sqdn there fore Mirage and F7PG will remain till PAF reach 250 which will cover remaining Mirage Sqdn. PG may be replaced by something different???? 2025???

true but after almost 22 modifications, the A-5 became a safe a/c and well liked by its drivers

 

[Donatello]

Hamza,

Though we appreciate your efforts to scan and upload the Magazine, Santro (the moderator) had deleted such posts in the past, because this is a copyright issue, unless you specifically had permission from Alan Warnes or someone from the AFM.

The guy, Alan Warnes, has made a concerted effort to bring us all this wonderful supplement and by putting his work online you are cutting short the appreciation, he would otherwise get, when people actually buy the magazine.

Please remove your posts, until the next issue becomes available, because i am sure the MODs are gonna delete this.

thanks.

 

[CallsignAlzaeem]

Yes totally agreed with penumbra,Just yesterday the mod deleted those scans and here they are being uploaded again,I appreciate his effort but thats a serious copyright issue which could get this site into trouble also.

 

[blain2]

Monitor,

Please avoid posting these here. I hope you understand that all of us value what Alan Warnes does in terms of reporting the ongoings within the PAF and we would like to support his efforts by trying to purchase copies of AFM. Whosoever posted it at Flickr is in violation of copyright. Lets not get this forum involved in this violation.
Thank you!

 

[Silk]

Alan Warnes is such a nice guy and I think we should not do stupid thinks to on of our best aviation friends. I understand that we want to have the news but wait just a month or buy the mag cause it is hardly expensive.

 

[humza_313]

Hamza,

Though we appreciate your efforts to scan and upload the Magazine, Santro (the moderator) had deleted such posts in the past, because this is a copyright issue, unless you specifically had permission from Alan Warnes or someone from the AFM.

The guy, Alan Warnes, has made a concerted effort to bring us all this wonderful supplement and by putting his work online you are cutting short the appreciation, he would otherwise get, when people actually buy the magazine.

Please remove your posts, until the next issue becomes available, because i am sure the MODs are gonna delete this.

thanks.

OK no problem....

 

[cfldad]

a footprint

 

[humza_313]

Alan Warnes is such a nice guy and I think we should not do stupid thinks to on of our best aviation friends. I understand that we want to have the news but wait just a month or buy the mag cause it is hardly expensive.

For god's sake people.. why have you become stooges. even our own hilal magazine is first released on the internet before the hard copies are sold out in the market. it is very obvious that KING ALAN WARNES is making some good business here. i kept quiet for a month but now it's enough.

do you have any idea that man has access to all PAF records, Bases, flight logs and history. he can go into the Air chief's office without appointment. he has permission to take snaps of our bases, fighters and assets. BUT ..if a normal civilian like me or you tries to take snaps of an aircraft ..... the intelligence would be there in time... they would ask you strange questions and humiliate you. 2 of my friends have experienced this fate.

KING ALAN WARNES is a regular visitor to india and is also affiliated with their airforce. try to understand the big drama guys. just because Alan warnes's copyright is violated and he gets disturbed ....he doesn't want any images of his MAG posted on forums.

i hope you understand what iam trying to say and this is no JOKE....!

 

[humza_313]

wo hamary phupphi ka beta nahin hai jo hum uski itni fikar kar rahay hain......!

 

[Pfpilot]

For god's sake people.. why have you become stooges. even our own hilal magazine is first released on the internet before the hard copies are sold out in the market. it is very obvious that KING ALAN WARNES is making some good business here. i kept quiet for a month but now it's enough.

do you have any idea that man has access to all PAF records, Bases, flight logs and history. he can go into the Air chief's office without appointment. he has permission to take snaps of our bases, fighters and assets. BUT ..if a normal civilian like me or you tries to take snaps of an aircraft ..... the intelligence would be there in time... they would ask you strange questions and humiliate you. 2 of my friends have experienced this fate.

KING ALAN WARNES is a regular visitor to india and is also affiliated with their airforce. try to understand the big drama guys. just because Alan warnes's copyright is violated and he gets disturbed ....he doesn't want any images of his MAG posted on forums.

i hope you understand what iam trying to say and this is no JOKE....!

I am not going to argue with your opinion, you are entitled to it...but its his work and he has every right to earn money off its sales...posting it on here means a bunch of people will never buy the magazine and since he is literally one of the few to present our armed forces in a positive light, it is a sad thing for us to go ahead and post all his latest work for free...and lets not forget this is copyrighted, I know most people dont care about that on the internet because we can all hide behind our computers but it is wrong and it is essentially like stealing...Im not trying to attack you, just saying why the mods would prefer to keep the mag from being posted...and many of us appreciate and understand that.

 

[Najam Khan]

For god's sake people.. why have you become stooges. even our own hilal magazine is first released on the internet before the hard copies are sold out in the market. it is very obvious that KING ALAN WARNES is making some good business here. i kept quiet for a month but now it's enough.

do you have any idea that man has access to all PAF records, Bases, flight logs and history. he can go into the Air chief's office without appointment. he has permission to take snaps of our bases, fighters and assets. BUT ..if a normal civilian like me or you tries to take snaps of an aircraft ..... the intelligence would be there in time... they would ask you strange questions and humiliate you. 2 of my friends have experienced this fate.

KING ALAN WARNES is a regular visitor to india and is also affiliated with their airforce. try to understand the big drama guys. just because Alan warnes's copyright is violated and he gets disturbed ....he doesn't want any images of his MAG posted on forums.

i hope you understand what iam trying to say and this is no JOKE....!

As far as Alan Warne's privileges are concerned, he is not given full access to anything, neither he jumps to any place without permission....his every visit is properly planned...PAF makes sure he sees nothing 'un-usual', he being a professional makes sure that trust is not lost.

Its been 11yrs he is working for PAF...the reason for his work with four air chiefs is simple, he is a trustworthy person.

 

[humza_313]

Mr.Hamza most of the things written in this post are complete BS. Alan Warnes is the official photographer of PAF, all of his pictures & videos are used anytime, anywhere for PAF internal use...he gets paid for delivering what PAF needs....a good PR!

As far as his privileges are concerned, he is not given full access to anything, neither he jumps to any place without permission....his every visit is properly planned...PAF makes sure he sees nothing 'un-usual', he being a professional makes sure that trust is not lost.

Its been 11yrs he is working for PAF...the reason for his work with four air chiefs is simple, he is a trustworthy person.

that is where most of the people are mistaken. there are thousands of pakistanis who can use a camera. that is not my point of argue. what i do not like is that he has access to every single thing in the PAF. and he has regular visits to indian bases. in this manner the U.S are also our " so called allies" but what they are currently doing is well known to everyone. maybe iam wrong in my opinion but these are the facts that i could make up.

how can you be so sure that he might have never shared a single secret with the U.S OR India...

think about it........

 

[Windjammer]

For god's sake people.. why have you become stooges. even our own hilal magazine is first released on the internet before the hard copies are sold out in the market. it is very obvious that KING ALAN WARNES is making some good business here. i kept quiet for a month but now it's enough.

do you have any idea that man has access to all PAF records, Bases, flight logs and history. he can go into the Air chief's office without appointment. he has permission to take snaps of our bases, fighters and assets. BUT ..if a normal civilian like me or you tries to take snaps of an aircraft ..... the intelligence would be there in time... they would ask you strange questions and humiliate you. 2 of my friends have experienced this fate.

KING ALAN WARNES is a regular visitor to india and is also affiliated with their airforce. try to understand the big drama guys. just because Alan warnes's copyright is violated and he gets disturbed ....he doesn't want any images of his MAG posted on forums.

i hope you understand what iam trying to say and this is no JOKE....!

My dear, it's not quite simple as that, Alan Warnes went to Pakistan to cover the Block-52 induction ceremony, but didn't get the clearance to visit Shabaz Air Base, and returned a few days earlier. He was completely unaware of the joint Sino/Pak Airforces exercise, in fact he advised me not to believe in all i read on the internet and insisted no such exercise was being conducted, however once I posted him pictures of PLAAF aircraft in Pakistan, he became aware of the event. As for his affiliation with the Indian air force, I wonder how many articles has he written on the IAF.
BTW, he has just retuned from Turkey after covering the air show and promises some good material on the PAF in coming months.

 

[Pfpilot]

My dear, it's not quite simple as that, Alan Warnes went to Pakistan to cover the Block-52 induction ceremony, but didn't get the clearance to visit Shabaz Air Base, and returned a few days earlier. He was completely unaware of the joint Sino/Pak Airforces exercise, in fact he advised me not to believe in all i read on the internet and insisted no such exercise was being conducted, however once I posted him pictures of PLAAF aircraft in Pakistan, he became aware of the event. As for his affiliation with the Indian air force, I wonder how many articles has he written on the IAF.
BTW, he has just retuned from Turkey after covering the air show and promises some good material on the PAF in coming months.

If you dont me asking me asking, how come he was denied access to Shahbaz airbase? Does it have anything to do with the Americans? Many countries now have block 52s and there isnt much remaining secretive about them.

 

[MastanKhan]

wo hamary phupphi ka beta nahin hai jo hum uski itni fikar kar rahay hain......!

Sir,,

You still don't get it----do you now. Friends are difficult to come by.