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[fatman17]

Qibla,

Is this the right section of the forum ?

AFAIK, air force news

 

[fatman17]

Flypast 2020, cancelled

 

[Armchair]

He had severe eye problems and was pretty senior then. I hope he is well, but we have not had any contact with him for 5 years at least.

I last spoke to him over the phone in 2008. Haven't seen him active anywhere a long time.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Right now according to wikipedia PAF has:
F-16 A/B/C/D: 76
JF-17: 107
Mirage 5: 92
Mirage 3: 87
F-7PG: 135

Can anyone give update on these numbers???
@fatman17 @Dazzler @Tipu7 @Signalian

 

[Keysersoze]

Right now according to wikipedia PAF has:
F-16 A/B/C/D: 76
JF-17: 107
Mirage 5: 92
Mirage 3: 87
F-7PG: 135

Can anyone give update on these numbers???
@fatman17 @Dazzler @Tipu7 @Signalian

Wikipedia is notorious as it allows fanboys alter figures constantly. I had a battle once over the number of AH1's in PAA. I even provided serial numbers. Still got deleted and a totally fictional number was put on there....

 

[ghazi52]

Earlier in the day, the Air Chief arrived at PAF Base Mushaf, where he visited No 9 Multirole Squadron, the Unit of Wing Commander Noman Akram (Shaheed). The Air Chief also flew an operational training mission in F-16 aircraft alongside the combat crew of the Squadron. He interacted with the combat crew and expressed his satisfaction on the operational preparedness.

PAF F-16 Fighting Falcon

 

[ghazi52]

1922-3: Building work on the RAF Depot, Drigh Road, Karachi, now PAF Base Faisal :

The history of PAF Base Faisal, the oldest air base in Pakistan, is a rich one. It started out as RAF Drigh Road, and has a very interesting past. This is the place where Indian Air Force was born, and Lawrence of Arabia served as an engine clerk. The first flight in the history of Indian aviation lifted off from Drigh Road in Karachi. The RAF used the Drigh Road RAF Depot as their primary maintenance base to serve units throughout British India. Soon after the India Command of the Royal Air Force was formed in 1918, with a projected deployment of 8 squadrons on the subcontinent, an aircraft repair depot was established at Lahore with a detachment at Karachi and a port depot at Bombay. In 1922 the main unit was shifted from Lahore to Drigh Road, where the first commanding officer of what was called 'Aircraft Depot, India', was Wing Commander Charles D Breese, RAF.

The change to Karachi was logical because knocked down aircraft could be off loaded from British ships at this closest subcontinental depot, assembled, test flown and ferried away to the squadrons based inland. This was to remain the station's chief function until RAF Drigh Road was handed over to the Royal Pakistan Air Force in 1947.

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Unloading P-38 Lightnng at kemari Karachi India 1942:

 

[fatman17]

Right now according to wikipedia PAF has:
F-16 A/B/C/D: 76
JF-17: 107
Mirage 5: 92
Mirage 3: 87
F-7PG: 135

Can anyone give update on these numbers???
@fatman17 @Dazzler @Tipu7 @Signalian

Pakistan

■ PAKISTAN AIR FORCE. (Active Fleet)

100 of 112 on contract. Chengdu JF-17 Thunder MRCA. All current 50 aircraft are Block-I. The next 50 JF-17 will be Block-II and the third 50, Block III. A total of 150 aircraft are planned to be required. All will eventually be upgraded to Block III. The Block Is are being upgraded to Block IIs. An additional 12 Block 2s were ordered in early 2017. A further 26 JF17B (2-seat) trainer aircraft were ordered in 2018.

PAC Kamra in conjunction with China have successfully exported the JF17 Block II to Myanmar and Nigeria. Interest from Asian 3rd world air forces remains high.

76 General Dynamics/Lockheed Martin F-16A/B MRCA, comprising 58 Block-A/B (AM/BM) and 18 Block C/D. a F16AM was recently lost.

50 Dassault Mirage-IIIEP/OF/RP MRCA. Expected to remain in service until 2022 onwards.

50 Dassault Mirage-5EF/F/PA MRCA. The fleet will be replaced with the Chengdu JF-17 starting 2017.

12 Dassault Mirage-IIIBE/D/DP MRCA.

2 Dassault Mirage-5DPA MRCA.

Purchased Mirage III/5 aircraft from Egypt for fleet life extension program.

8 Chengdu FT-7 combat/trainer aircraft.

36 Chengdu F-7P.

35 Chengdu F-7PG MRCA.

39 Hongdu K-8 Karakorum light attack/ lead-in jet trainer.

2 Dassault Falcon 20/200 EW/reconnaissance aircraft.

3/1 Saab 2000 AEW&C aircraft, plus a utility / crew training aircraft.

4 Shaanxi Y-8/ZDK-03 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C).

4 Ilyushin Il-78 MRTT tanker/transport.

3/1 Airbus CN-235 turboprop freighter/VIP.

16 Lockheed Martin C-130 B/C/E and L-100 turboprop freighter. All aircraft being refurbished/upgraded to C130H standard.

6 Mil Mi-8/171 medium-lift utility (SAR) helicopter.

10 Airbus Helicopters SA-316 light utility helicopter. Replacement underway.

8 Leonardo AW139 utility/SAR/transport role. Deliveries commenced in mid-2017. Further inductions expected.

10 Aérospatiale SE-316 light utility helicopter. Replacement underway.

40 Cessna T-37B/C trainer aircraft. Recently acquired 34 T37C from Turkish Air Force for fleet replenishment program.

40 MFI-17 Super Mushshak, primary trainer/communication aircraft. Aircraft are being upgrade with glass cockpits.

Information taken from ASIAN DEFENCE MAGAZINE, NOV-2019 with additional comments added.

Wikipedia is notorious as it allows fanboys alter figures constantly. I had a battle once over the number of AH1's in PAA. I even provided serial numbers. Still got deleted and a totally fictional number was put on there....

I agree, its not a accurate source.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Pakistan

■ PAKISTAN AIR FORCE. (Active Fleet)

100 of 112 on contract. Chengdu JF-17 Thunder MRCA. All current 50 aircraft are Block-I. The next 50 JF-17 will be Block-II and the third 50, Block III. A total of 150 aircraft are planned to be required. All will eventually be upgraded to Block III. The Block Is are being upgraded to Block IIs. An additional 12 Block 2s were ordered in early 2017. A further 26 JF17B (2-seat) trainer aircraft were ordered in 2018.

PAC Kamra in conjunction with China have successfully exported the JF17 Block II to Myanmar and Nigeria. Interest from Asian 3rd world air forces remains high.

76 General Dynamics/Lockheed Martin F-16A/B MRCA, comprising 58 Block-A/B (AM/BM) and 18 Block C/D. a F16AM was recently lost.

50 Dassault Mirage-IIIEP/OF/RP MRCA. Expected to remain in service until 2022 onwards.

50 Dassault Mirage-5EF/F/PA MRCA. The fleet will be replaced with the Chengdu JF-17 starting 2017.

12 Dassault Mirage-IIIBE/D/DP MRCA.

2 Dassault Mirage-5DPA MRCA.

Purchased Mirage III/5 aircraft from Egypt for fleet life extension program.

8 Chengdu FT-7 combat/trainer aircraft.

36 Chengdu F-7P.

35 Chengdu F-7PG MRCA.

39 Hongdu K-8 Karakorum light attack/ lead-in jet trainer.

2 Dassault Falcon 20/200 EW/reconnaissance aircraft.

3/1 Saab 2000 AEW&C aircraft, plus a utility / crew training aircraft.

4 Shaanxi Y-8/ZDK-03 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C).

4 Ilyushin Il-78 MRTT tanker/transport.

3/1 Airbus CN-235 turboprop freighter/VIP.

16 Lockheed Martin C-130 B/C/E and L-100 turboprop freighter. All aircraft being refurbished/upgraded to C130H standard.

6 Mil Mi-8/171 medium-lift utility (SAR) helicopter.

10 Airbus Helicopters SA-316 light utility helicopter. Replacement underway.

8 Leonardo AW139 utility/SAR/transport role. Deliveries commenced in mid-2017. Further inductions expected.

10 Aérospatiale SE-316 light utility helicopter. Replacement underway.

40 Cessna T-37B/C trainer aircraft. Recently acquired 34 T37C from Turkish Air Force for fleet replenishment program.

40 MFI-17 Super Mushshak, primary trainer/communication aircraft. Aircraft are being upgrade with glass cockpits.

Information taken from ASIAN DEFENCE MAGAZINE, NOV-2019 with additional comments added.



I agree, its not a accurate source.

Nice effort but lots of incorrect information

 

[fatman17]

Nice effort but lots of incorrect information

as you wish!

I used to put up a lot of data but everyone and anyone had more accurate data. LOL. we are never going to know what the 100% correct data is - 85-90% correct data is good enough to get a general idea of the situation.

even the experts like JANEs and SIPRI are wrong at times.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Pakistan

■ PAKISTAN AIR FORCE. (Active Fleet)

100 of 112 on contract. Chengdu JF-17 Thunder MRCA. All current 50 aircraft are Block-I. The next 50 JF-17 will be Block-II and the third 50, Block III. A total of 150 aircraft are planned to be required. All will eventually be upgraded to Block III. The Block Is are being upgraded to Block IIs. An additional 12 Block 2s were ordered in early 2017. A further 26 JF17B (2-seat) trainer aircraft were ordered in 2018.

PAC Kamra in conjunction with China have successfully exported the JF17 Block II to Myanmar and Nigeria. Interest from Asian 3rd world air forces remains high.

76 General Dynamics/Lockheed Martin F-16A/B MRCA, comprising 58 Block-A/B (AM/BM) and 18 Block C/D. a F16AM was recently lost.

50 Dassault Mirage-IIIEP/OF/RP MRCA. Expected to remain in service until 2022 onwards.

50 Dassault Mirage-5EF/F/PA MRCA. The fleet will be replaced with the Chengdu JF-17 starting 2017.

12 Dassault Mirage-IIIBE/D/DP MRCA.

2 Dassault Mirage-5DPA MRCA.

Purchased Mirage III/5 aircraft from Egypt for fleet life extension program.

8 Chengdu FT-7 combat/trainer aircraft.

36 Chengdu F-7P.

35 Chengdu F-7PG MRCA.

39 Hongdu K-8 Karakorum light attack/ lead-in jet trainer.

2 Dassault Falcon 20/200 EW/reconnaissance aircraft.

3/1 Saab 2000 AEW&C aircraft, plus a utility / crew training aircraft.

4 Shaanxi Y-8/ZDK-03 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C).

4 Ilyushin Il-78 MRTT tanker/transport.

3/1 Airbus CN-235 turboprop freighter/VIP.

16 Lockheed Martin C-130 B/C/E and L-100 turboprop freighter. All aircraft being refurbished/upgraded to C130H standard.

6 Mil Mi-8/171 medium-lift utility (SAR) helicopter.

10 Airbus Helicopters SA-316 light utility helicopter. Replacement underway.

8 Leonardo AW139 utility/SAR/transport role. Deliveries commenced in mid-2017. Further inductions expected.

10 Aérospatiale SE-316 light utility helicopter. Replacement underway.

40 Cessna T-37B/C trainer aircraft. Recently acquired 34 T37C from Turkish Air Force for fleet replenishment program.

40 MFI-17 Super Mushshak, primary trainer/communication aircraft. Aircraft are being upgrade with glass cockpits.

Information taken from ASIAN DEFENCE MAGAZINE, NOV-2019 with additional comments added.



I agree, its not a accurate source.

What blocks does 58 F-16s AM/BM belongs to and joe many received MLU upgrades???

 

[Trailer23]

Wg Cdr. Azman Khalil with Saudi Pilot after a familiarization flight in RSAF F-15C
during exercise ACES MEET 2017​

 

[Shabi1]

What blocks does 58 F-16s AM/BM belongs to and joe many received MLU upgrades???

An F-16A/B which has received the MLU upgrade gets the AM/BM designation. All were Block-15 and received the MLU package with avionics at same level as Block-52.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

An F-16A/B which has received the MLU upgrade gets the AM/BM designation. All were Block-15 and received the MLU package with avionics at same level as Block-52.

There are also some F-16 ADF version. What are those???

 

[War Historian]

What blocks does 58 F-16s AM/BM belongs to and joe many received MLU upgrades???

I think most of our 1980's Era old F16 are block 15 and also MLU. If i am not wrong after MLU they are almost block 40 equal.Ex jordanian F16 i thnk they are not MLU. Forgive me if i said some thing wrong. Thanks