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you have perfectly displayed the 'small man at a high place' or in big britches. you cannot stomach an opinion but act the arse end!

We tolerate your manure without becoming counts! why is difficult to stomach someone else's POV?

Hi,

My consideration have military and tactical backing to it---keeping in mind the cost factor and supposed value received.

Your opinion was---without merit---.

It had no concept of cost factor---engineering and design---function and utility---operational capabilities---.

You need to step back and re-think your position and re-assess what you wrote---.

Getting mad at me or hurling insults at me won't do you any good or change my position---.
 
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Hi,

Worthless opinions are and should be outright rejected---.

My consideration have military and tactical backing to it---keeping in mind the cost factor and supposed value received.

Your opinion was totally thoughtless---without merit---no common sense---.

It had no concept of cost factor---engineering and design---function and utility---operational capabilities---.

You need to step back and re-think your position and re-assess what you wrote---.

Getting mad at me or hurling insults at me won't do you any good or change my position---.
Ego kills a man!
 
I do my utmost to kill ego & arrogance, aim to be humble in life. being humble has no expiry date!
I would disagree with your statement here, VTOL is a last measure step used specifically for Carriers, the associated operational cost and maintenance, as well as the very low life of airframe, and the constant troubles with the engine, such a tech is a headache for even US Marines at the moment, let alone Pakistan or even india. The costs associated will be nightmare, and in lesser time, structural integrity would lessen. Now, we are not “THAT CLOSE” to india that we need such sort if aircrafts, Our front line fighters and generally whole of our fleet has considerably low RCS, can evade radar detection for a good amount of time and altitude matters as well, you fly low after takeoff, or fly away from India until The aircraft is all set to engage.
 
I would disagree with your statement here, VTOL is a last measure step used specifically for Carriers, the associated operational cost and maintenance, as well as the very low life of airframe, and the constant troubles with the engine, such a tech is a headache for even US Marines at the moment, let alone Pakistan or even india. The costs associated will be nightmare, and in lesser time, structural integrity would lessen. Now, we are not “THAT CLOSE” to india that we need such sort if aircrafts, Our front line fighters and generally whole of our fleet has considerably low RCS, can evade radar detection for a good amount of time and altitude matters as well, you fly low after takeoff, or fly away from India until The aircraft is all set to engage.

Hi,

The JF17 would start---take off and be at 15000 ft altitude even before the VTOL gets up in the air---if they both went thru the start up process at the same time---.

Kids just don't understand and don't want to understand that there is more to it than just to have an aircraft---.

that is a shoddy come back! Some of the greatest Humans were humble!

Some of the greatest conquerers were ars-eholes as well---.
 
Please avoided judging each other and lest continue with topic in hand. Evaluate content, argue with substance & quality without getting personal and share some knowledge. Thread topic doesn't require to judge each other on personal grounds or degrade anyone by any means.

Regards,
 
PAF in full rehearsal over Clifton, Karachi for Op Swift Retort
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Seems as if the PAF's No. 16 Squadron 'Black Panthers' have a new tail-art or logo for their JF-17s as shown on this one numbered 18-256.

(Image via Zohaib Malik) https://t.co/vlenCNOBeJ
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