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Collaboration should be encouraged with whomever is willing to collaborate with us. As long as Pakistan's interests get served. That should be the primary consideration. Be it China, Turkey or any other country. But in the immediate future I am seeing this collaboration being heavily dependent on Chinese help to start off the initial work. Turkey will be useful in sharing their expertise in subsystems like GaN based AESA radar TRMs, EW suites and targeting pods etc. Pakistan could be useful in working as a conduit of know-how between the other two and as eventually providing the trained workforce to keep prices down comparatively.

But AZM will be giving off results i.e. the first prototype gets developed ... sometime between 2030 to 2035. Then expect another 7 to 8 years for the design to be perfected and finalized. After that small batch production versions could be initiated. Somewhere between 2037 to 2043.

Provided, Pakistan's economy picks up in the next couple years.
Hi I’m not contradicting your time line about AZM just a Q for your as Americans have their f22 around by that time 50 years or so like wise China & Russia also around 25yers or so
So If I may ask about the detection or innovation or stealth radar will not be around by that time
And of its around adversary will definitely have one
So now here I’m not against the AZM but if possible air defence or PAF should get to focus about getting this radar ASAP
What’s your take on this
Thank you
 
So now here I’m not against the AZM but if possible air defence or PAF should get to focus about getting this radar ASAP
Absolutely, based on what we think we know as we are surely not privy to the actual situation. But getting that radar or whatever that is even better (if) available, we should be going for it. These are significant force multipliers.
 
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Pakistan Air Force to receive first 12 JF-17B combat aircraft ‘in near future’.

Alan Warnes, Kamra - Jane's Defence Weekly
04 February 2020


A JF-17B aircraft is pictured taxiing out for a test flight test from PAC Kamra in late January 2020. Source: Alan Warnes

Deliveries of the first 12 of 26 twin-seat JF-17B Thunder multirole combat aircraft on order for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) are expected to commence "in the near future", PAF officials have told Jane's .

Eight of these aircraft were built at the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in Kamra, while the remaining four were constructed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group (CAIG) in China, where the aircraft type is known as the FC-1 Xiaolong.

The aircraft, several of which are equipped with aerial refuelling probes, had been rolled out at PAC Kamra in late December 2019 during a ceremony that was also attended by the PAF's Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan. Delivery of the remaining JF-17Bs is expected to be completed by 2021.

Speaking to Jane's on 20 January, ACM Khan explained that the JF-17Bs will help to streamline the PAF's training process for the Thunder. "The JF-17 pilots are currently being posted to Lockheed Martin F-16, Chengdu F-7PG or Dassault Mirage IIIEA ROSE aircraft before converting to the JF-17," he said. "But they will start going straight to a JF-17 OCU [operational conversion unit] after completing their advanced jet training." ACM Khan added that this "will ensure that pilots transitioning to the Sino-Pakistani jet are a lot younger than they are now".

The JF-17B prototype made its first flight in China in April 2017.

Meanwhile, the PAF revealed that after a lengthy evaluation the air-cooled Nanjing Research Institute of Electronics Technology (NRIET) KLJ-7A active electronically scanned-array (AESA) radar has been selected for the Block III variant of the JF-17/ FC-1 Xiaolong, the first prototype of which made its maiden flight on 17 December from CAIG's production facility at Chengdu-Huangtianba. PAC Kamra's newly appointed chairman, Air Marshal Syed Noman Ali, said a second Block III prototype will assist in May with the test and evaluation process.


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Speaking to Jane's on 20 January, ACM Khan explained that the JF-17Bs will help to streamline the PAF's training process for the Thunder.
So Block B will be used for training. No EW plateform like growler

Deliveries of the first 12 of 26 twin-seat JF-17B Thunder multirole combat aircraft on order for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) are expected to commence "in the near future", PAF officials have told Jane's .
So total of 26 JF17 Bs will be inducted in whole Thunder fleet?
 
So Block B will be used for training. No EW plateform like growler


So total of 26 JF17 Bs will be inducted in whole Thunder fleet?
For now it is 26 Bs; Certainly this number can go up in future depending on multiple factors ranging from PAF's plan to raise more squadrons requiring more planes for training the pilots in parallel to new scenarios in which PAF finds utility of such platform like dedicated EW squadron. 26 is a number for foreseeable future 3~5 years.
 
I think for EW PAF wants to depend upon Blinders.

But it'd be better for PAF to use Blinders sqn for EW in a larger area with the AWACS. And use growlers with a strike package in immediate area where dogfight/airstrike is going to happen.
 
I think for EW PAF wants to depend upon Blinders.

But it'd be better for PAF to use Blinders sqn for EW in a larger area with the AWACS. And use growlers with a strike package in immediate area where dogfight/airstrike is going to happen.
EW will make its way to the fleet in different ways.

The Block-III, for example, will have its own integrated suite.

The JF-17s (be it Block-I, II, III or B) will have access to a dedicated EW pod, which one or several of them can deploy as part of a mission. Sure, there's no Growler-like aircraft designed for the job (with one jet carrying 3-4 jamming pods), but EW will be fairly common in the PAF fleet.
 
Pakistan provides medical supplies to virus-hit Wuhan City
February 3, 2020

The Pakistani government transported 300,000 medical masks, 800 hazmat suits and 6,800 pairs of gloves to the epidemic-hit region.
The aid was supplied through Pakistan Air Force aircraft.
The supplies have been delivered after China witnessed the deadly coronavirus outbreak claiming lives of more than 300 people and infecting thousands others.

KARACHI: Medical supplies from Pakistan arrived in China's Wuhan City, which has been badly affected by coronavirus, media reported on Monday.

The Pakistani government transported 300,000 medical masks, 800 hazmat suits and 6,800 pairs of gloves to the epidemic-hit region. The aid was supplied through Pakistan Air Force aircraft.

Meanwhile, another PAF aeroplane is also expected to fly to China to deliver the supplies. The supplies have been delivered after China witnessed the deadly coronavirus outbreak that claimed lives of more than 300 people and infecting thousands others.

Health officials say the death toll from the virus has exceeded that of acute respiratory syndrome outbreak in 2002 and 2003. The total number of people infected with the virus rose to 17, 205 in China after 2,829 new case were reported.

At least 150 cases have also been reported from other countries.

Meanwhile, China's health commission says that there were 475 recoveries and 361 deaths nationwide due to the virus. They said the SARS epidemic claimed lives of 349 people across China.
 

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