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Can someone tell us why the CM 400AKG has not been inducted into the PAF. It appears to be the best answer to Brahmos available to PAF at the time. It also appears to be far superior to C-802 in terms of range and speed. The kinetic energy alone is enough to cripple if not sink a ship.

Is there something wrong with the missile? Does it not fit the thunder the same way as Ra'ad? What exactly is their trepidation?
 
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Can someone tell us why the CM 400AKG has not been inducted into the PAF. It appears to be the best answer to Brahmos available to PAF at the time. It also appears to be far superior to C-802 in terms of range and speed. The kinetic energy alone is enough to cripple if not sink a ship.

Is there something wrong with the missile? Does it not fit the thunder the same way as Ra'ad? What exactly is their trepidation?



Some times u wonder uoon sanity of procurement incharge.

Cm. 400 akg shud b produced with a lical designation to get full potential of range
 
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Can someone tell us why the CM 400AKG has not been inducted into the PAF. It appears to be the best answer to Brahmos available to PAF at the time. It also appears to be far superior to C-802 in terms of range and speed. The kinetic energy alone is enough to cripple if not sink a ship.

Is there something wrong with the missile? Does it not fit the thunder the same way as Ra'ad? What exactly is their trepidation?
Sir cm400akg is already in Paf arsenal. Paf has purchased 50 rounds of it approximately 2 years back. Current calendar also shows its picture carrying it, which is 2 years old pic too.
 
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Can someone tell us why the CM 400AKG has not been inducted into the PAF. It appears to be the best answer to Brahmos available to PAF at the time. It also appears to be far superior to C-802 in terms of range and speed. The kinetic energy alone is enough to cripple if not sink a ship.

Is there something wrong with the missile? Does it not fit the thunder the same way as Ra'ad? What exactly is their trepidation?

Some times u wonder uoon sanity of procurement incharge.

Cm. 400 akg shud b produced with a lical designation to get full potential of range
The CM-400AKG is a rocket, basically a mini air launched ballistic missile, not a supersonic crusing missile like BrahMos. For that the PAF would need to look at the Chinese CM-302, CX-1, and HD-1A. The HD-1A was reportedly designed with air launches in mind, so that may interest the PAF.
 
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Can someone tell us why the CM 400AKG has not been inducted into the PAF. It appears to be the best answer to Brahmos available to PAF at the time. It also appears to be far superior to C-802 in terms of range and speed. The kinetic energy alone is enough to cripple if not sink a ship.

Is there something wrong with the missile? Does it not fit the thunder the same way as Ra'ad? What exactly is their trepidation?

CM-400AKG is advertised as a supersonic AGM, there is no active radar or IIR seeker. The existing seeker may work against larger targets like ACs, but will not be very effective against smaller targets (with smaller signatures).

Chinese supersonic cruise missiles (inc. HD-1A) are too large (and heavy) for the Block I/II and if there is a significant increase in Block III payload, expect it to carry not more than one missile (that too on the centerline pylon).

so whats the reason for Blk 3 delay? why is it delayed till 2021?

The radar and associated stuff has not been finalized yet, that explains delays in the program.

Meanwhile, PAC continues Block II production, 12 additional planes for PAF in 2018, 16 for Myanmar & 3 for Nigeria.

JF-17B is currently under trials with PAF, if orders are placed, we could see JF-17B production around 2020.
 
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In case anyone's interested in knowing, but the Leonardo Grifo-E is a GaN-based AESA radar.

https://www.janes.com/article/85332...de-radar-aims-to-bring-aesa-to-a-wider-market

This would be an excellent option but i think the Vixen 1000E showed us that China is not willing to play ball when it comes to getting its missiles' source codes married to European radars. If there are other options in the future like Denel Marlin and A darter then the Grifo or Vixen would make more sense.

The CM-400AKG is a rocket, basically a mini air launched ballistic missile, not a supersonic crusing missile like BrahMos. For that the PAF would need to look at the Chinese CM-302, CX-1, and HD-1A. The HD-1A was reportedly designed with air launches in mind, so that may interest the PAF.

The CX-1 to my understanding is a land and ship launched missile only. Im not sure the cm-302 or hd-1a could be carried by JF-17.
 
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The CM-400AKG is a rocket, basically a mini air launched ballistic missile, not a supersonic crusing missile like BrahMos. For that the PAF would need to look at the Chinese CM-302, CX-1, and HD-1A. The HD-1A was reportedly designed with air launches in mind, so that may interest the PAF.

It is ideal for saturation attacks against armor columns or even large structures such as dams. A pack of 6 Thunders can launch 10 400 AKGs and one HD-1A. That's some awesome firepower right there. Launched against a battery of S-400s, it will give them some work to do giving the more accurate HD-1 better chance to hit target.
 
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This would be an excellent option but i think the Vixen 1000E showed us that China is not willing to play ball when it comes to getting its missiles' source codes married to European radars. If there are other options in the future like Denel Marlin and A darter then the Grifo or Vixen would make more sense.



The CX-1 to my understanding is a land and ship launched missile only. Im not sure the cm-302 or hd-1a could be carried by JF-17.
A third party weapon from neutral state would have no issues like from douth africa Brazil ..already weapons ftom Brazil are in our fighters
 
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It is imperative to develop national spirit to realize dreams of founding fathers: Air chief

Islamabad 20 December, 2018: “It is imperative to develop national spirit and national will to realize the dreams of our founding fathers”, said the Air Chief while addressing the faculty and students of Air University, Islamabad, today.

Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force had an interactive session on the topic “Importance of National Spirit in the Age of Globalization”.

Addressing at the occasion, the Air Chief said, “The age of globalization has brought many challenges for our nation and we have to face and overcome these challenges. To benefit from various positives of the phenomenon, we have to protect our values, culture, family structure, national spirit and patriotism.” He further said, “if we want to excel in life we have to learn and adopt certain basic qualities such as tolerance, work ethics and better planning”.

Earlier, on his arrival the Air Chief was received by Air Vice Marshal (Retd), Faaiz Amir, Vice Chancellor of Air University.
 
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Deputy Chief of the Air Staff (Operations), Air Marshal Muhammad Haseeb Paracha was the chief guest at the occasion. Defence Attaché from the Chinese embassy, Major General Chen Wenrong was also present on the occasion. PHOTO: PAF

Pakistan-China joint air exercise ‘Shaheen-VII’ concluded with an august culmination ceremony at an operational air base of Pakistan Air Force (PAF) in Karachi on Friday.

The main objective of the exercise was to maximise the combat readiness of the two air forces by providing a realistic training environment in different air combat scenarios, a spokesperson of the PAF said in a statement.

The high ranking officials of both the countries were given a comprehensive briefing on the exercise. Air Marshal Paracha highlighted significance of the joint venture and appreciated the personnel of both air forces for the smooth conduct of exercise.

Major General Wenrong, in his address thanked the PAF high command for offering traditional hospitality and providing the opportunity to learn from each other’s experiences.

PAF war veterans, PLAAF officials, diplomats from Chinese embassy, retired and senior serving officers also attended the ceremony. The distinguished guests visited the exercise monitoring cell to witness the conduct of the exercise.

Later on, the guests witnessed the launched missions of PAF and PLAAF’s participating fighter jets and support elements.

PAF has been participating in foreign exercises with leading and friendly air forces of the world. These exercises have helped in giving invaluable experience to the PAF combat crew and enhancing their professional competence.
 
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