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[messiach]

Ok.

China’s problems with engines are legendary.

 

[syed_yusuf]

j-16/ j-11/ j-15 or any variant of them are not coming to PAF why?

1 - cost of purchase, support/ operational cost
2 - Russian angle as these fighters cannot be exported.

 

[LKJ86]

j-16/ j-11/ j-15 or any variant of them are not coming to PAF why?

1 - cost of purchase
2 - Russian angle as these fighters cannot be exported.

J-15 is a carrier-based fighter.

 

[syed_yusuf]

J-15 is a carrier-based fighter.

i know, just wanted to make a sweeping statement.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Nope won't happen bro

just a thought bro ..

 

[Ultima Thule]

China’s problems with engines are legendary. Apart from the increased loiter time of the su-35 in the South China Sea region, engines were the primary reasons they were sought.

WS-10 more than 500+ in service @Falcon26

 

[MastanKhan]

China’s problems with engines are legendary. Apart from the increased loiter time of the su-35 in the South China Sea region, engines were the primary reasons they were sought.

Hi,

China's problems with the engine are no more legendary than any other nation which started building engines---.

The leaps that china has taken on engine building is un-precedented---.

 

[LKJ86]

China’s problems with engines are legendary. Apart from the increased loiter time of the su-35 in the South China Sea region, engines were the primary reasons they were sought.

During the development of WS-10 engine, China had made a huge number of mistakes that can be made, and spent a long time, but WS-10 engine has become mature and is in mass-production already.

Although WS-10 is not perfect, it has basically satisfied the needs of PLAAF for J-11/16/20. China has not officially purchases AL-31FNs from Russia last year yet. And you must know that, only USA, Russia, and China in the world are building the low bypass ratio, large thrust turbofan engines now.

Besides, WS-15 and WS-19 are also in development, and they won't take so much time as before any more, due to huge input and past experience.

 

[Amigator]

During the development of WS-10 engine, China had made a huge number of mistakes that can be made, and spent a long time, but WS-10 engine has become mature and is in mass-production already.

Although WS-10 is not perfect, it has basically satisfied the needs of PLAAF for J-11/16/20. China has not officially purchases AL-31FNs from Russia last year yet. And you must know that, only USA, Russia, and China in the world are building such engines now.

Besides, WS-15 and WS-19 are also in development, and they won't take so much time as before any more, due to huge input and past experience.

This is good for Pakistan Air force also. As we are not in position to develop a fighter plane engine in at least 15 years. So we will be using developed by China then.

 

[Falcon26]

During the development of WS-10 engine, China had made a huge number of mistakes that can be made, and spent a long time, but WS-10 engine has become mature and is in mass-production already.

Although WS-10 is not perfect, it has basically satisfied the needs of PLAAF for J-11/16/20. China has not officially purchases AL-31FNs from Russia last year yet. And you must know that, only USA, Russia, and China in the world are building such engines now.

Besides, WS-15 and WS-19 are also in development, and they won't take so much time as before any more, due to huge input and past experience.

You are placing the WS-10 in the same category and quality as it’s Russian, American, French and British counterparts? Granted the Chinese are making massive strides and might conceivably close the technology gap within a decade, no-one would claim the Chinese are there yet.

Hi,

China's problems with the engine are no more legendary than any other nation which started building engines---.

The leaps that china has taken on engine building is un-precedented---.

None of that is under dispute but they aren’t there quite yet.

 

[LKJ86]

You are placing the WS-10 in the same category and quality as it’s Russian, American, French and British counterparts? Granted the Chinese are making massive strides and might conceivably close the technology gap within a decade, no-one would claim the Chinese are there yet.

I mean the low bypass ratio, large thrust turbofan engines. Only USA, Russia, and China in the world are building such engines now.

 

[Amigator]

When i read title in my google feed i also misunderstood it first for PAF. [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji1]

https://ptvnews.ph/dnd-likely-to-acquire-swedish-made-fighter-jets/

 

[syed_yusuf]

You are placing the WS-10 in the same category and quality as it’s Russian, American, French and British counterparts? Granted the Chinese are making massive strides and might conceivably close the technology gap within a decade, no-one would claim the Chinese are there yet.



None of that is under dispute but they aren’t there quite yet.

does french and Uk made big engines like russia and USA

 

[araz]

does french and Uk made big engines like russia and USA

Snecma is French a d Rolls Royce make the EJ200 series engines for EFT. Then The Airbus engines are manufactured in EU so plenty of engines of various sizes are manufactured in EU.
A

 

[LKJ86]

Snecma is French a d Rolls Royce make the EJ200 series engines for EFT. Then The Airbus engines are manufactured in EU so plenty of engines of various sizes are manufactured in EU.
A

No low bypass ratio, large thrust turbofan engines.