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ZDK-03/Y-8P Karakoram Eagle

ZDK-03 (Y-8P) is an AWACS aircraft developed for the Pakistani Air Force as part of the JF-17 supporting project initiated in the early 2000. A Y-8 AWACS testbed (S/N T0518/Y-8CE) based on Y-8 Category II Platform was first discovered at CFTE in early 2006. Unlike KJ-200, this variant carries a traditional rotodome on top of its fuselage, with a mechanically rotating antenna inside. The PESA radar is thought to scan electronically in elevation but mechanically in azimuth. Therefore the Y-8 AWACS was speculated to be developed for the export market only as it appears less advanced than KJ-200 which features a fixed AESA radar. However this design does provide a true 360° coverage and carry a cheaper price tag. The AEW radar is the product of the 38th Institute/CETC, but no details are available. The aircraft also features MAWS sensors on both sides of the nose and tail cone, and small vertical stabilizers attached to its tailplanes. Additional fairings are seen at the wingtips and the tail housing ESM antennas. The Y-8 AWACS prototype flew to Pakistan and was evaluated by Pakistani AF in 2006. After some negotiations a much improved design was developed based on PAF's specifications. The variant is now named ZDK-03/Y-8P (ZDK means CETC) and is based on the new Y-8 Category III Platform featuring WJ-6C turboprops with 6-blade high efficiency propellers. It was reported in early 2009 that a total of 4 were ordered by PAF in a $278m contract. The first ZDK-03 prototype rolled out in November 2010 at SAC. Since then it has been undergoing test at CFTE (S/N 733). The first ZDK-03 (S/N 11-001) was delivered to PAF in December 2011. The 2nd (S/N 12-002, formerly 11-002) was delivered some time later. The third (S/N 13-003, formerly 12-003) was delivered in 2013. The delivery of the 4th (S/N 14-004) was delayed until February 2015, probably due to certain upgrades such as a new datalink. ZDK-03 is serving as the airborne command & control center for the JF-17 fighter fleet currently in service with PAF. However it does not have the secure NATO datalink installed to effectively command western fighter aircraft such as American F-16. Therefore ZDK-03 operates together with Saab-2000 in a "high-low" combination in order to coordinate various Chinese and western made combat aircraft effectively. The latest rumor (June 2015) suggested that the AWACS might be upgraded in the future with a fixed AESA radar similar to the one onboard KJ-500.
- Last Updated 3/25/17

There is genuine concern about marrying systems from different providers especially Radars. This was ONE of the reasons for going for the KLJ7A. With PAC gearing up for in house manufacturing it seems less and less likely that a radar from another provider will find its way into JFT.
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at the end of the day, its all about performance. PAF is still in love with western systems and therefore it cannot be totally ignored.
 
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ZDK-03/Y-8P Karakoram Eagle

ZDK-03 (Y-8P) is an AWACS aircraft developed for the Pakistani Air Force as part of the JF-17 supporting project initiated in the early 2000. A Y-8 AWACS testbed (S/N T0518/Y-8CE) based on Y-8 Category II Platform was first discovered at CFTE in early 2006. Unlike KJ-200, this variant carries a traditional rotodome on top of its fuselage, with a mechanically rotating antenna inside. The PESA radar is thought to scan electronically in elevation but mechanically in azimuth. Therefore the Y-8 AWACS was speculated to be developed for the export market only as it appears less advanced than KJ-200 which features a fixed AESA radar. However this design does provide a true 360° coverage and carry a cheaper price tag. The AEW radar is the product of the 38th Institute/CETC, but no details are available. The aircraft also features MAWS sensors on both sides of the nose and tail cone, and small vertical stabilizers attached to its tailplanes. Additional fairings are seen at the wingtips and the tail housing ESM antennas. The Y-8 AWACS prototype flew to Pakistan and was evaluated by Pakistani AF in 2006. After some negotiations a much improved design was developed based on PAF's specifications. The variant is now named ZDK-03/Y-8P (ZDK means CETC) and is based on the new Y-8 Category III Platform featuring WJ-6C turboprops with 6-blade high efficiency propellers. It was reported in early 2009 that a total of 4 were ordered by PAF in a $278m contract. The first ZDK-03 prototype rolled out in November 2010 at SAC. Since then it has been undergoing test at CFTE (S/N 733). The first ZDK-03 (S/N 11-001) was delivered to PAF in December 2011. The 2nd (S/N 12-002, formerly 11-002) was delivered some time later. The third (S/N 13-003, formerly 12-003) was delivered in 2013. The delivery of the 4th (S/N 14-004) was delayed until February 2015, probably due to certain upgrades such as a new datalink. ZDK-03 is serving as the airborne command & control center for the JF-17 fighter fleet currently in service with PAF. However it does not have the secure NATO datalink installed to effectively command western fighter aircraft such as American F-16. Therefore ZDK-03 operates together with Saab-2000 in a "high-low" combination in order to coordinate various Chinese and western made combat aircraft effectively. The latest rumor (June 2015) suggested that the AWACS might be upgraded in the future with a fixed AESA radar similar to the one onboard KJ-500.
- Last Updated 3/25/17



at the end of the day, its all about performance. PAF is still in love with western systems and therefore it cannot be totally ignored.
In terms of electronics, china is lagging behind a lot. With time they will catch up but most likely they are borrowing a lot from Elta and that is making its way across their developments.
 
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plz post translation ...
张又侠会见巴基斯坦空军参谋长
来源:国防部网作者:欧阳浩责任编辑:汤传飞2018-07-19 17:40
摘要:7月19日下午,中央军委副主席张又侠在乌鲁木齐会见了巴基斯坦空军参谋长穆加希德。

7月19日下午,中央军委副主席张又侠在乌鲁木齐会见了巴基斯坦空军参谋长穆加希德。

张又侠说,中巴是“全天候战略合作伙伴”,两国人民世代友好的情谊历久弥新。无论国际形势如何变化,中巴永远是守望相助的好邻居、好朋友、好兄弟、好伙伴。近日,习近平主席就巴发生严重恐袭事件向侯赛因总统致慰问电,坚定支持巴为打击恐怖主义,维护国家稳定、保护人民生命安全所作的努力,充分体现了中巴两国和两国人民之间的高度互信和深厚情谊。在新的历史时期,中巴两军应进一步加强沟通协调,深化防务安全合作,共同维护地区和平稳定,不断将两军关系推向新的水平。

穆加希德说,感谢习近平主席在巴遭受严重恐袭事件后第一时间发电慰问,这是习主席和中国人民对巴基斯坦人民和军队兄弟般的关怀,更加坚定了我们打击恐怖主义,维护地区安全的决心与信心。巴方珍视巴中友谊,高度重视两军防务安全合作,巴空军愿与中方积极深化各领域务实合作,坚定不移推进两军关系不断发展。(欧阳浩)

Soure:http://www.mod.gov.cn/shouye/2018-07/19/content_4819755.htm

Google Translate:
On the afternoon of July 19, Zhang Youxia, vice chairman of the Central Military Commission, met with Pakistani Air Force Chief of Staff Mugahid in Urumqi.

Zhang Youxia said that China and Pakistan are "all-weather strategic partners" and the friendship between the two peoples for generations has been long-lasting. No matter how the international situation changes, China and Pakistan will always be good neighbors, good friends, good brothers and good partners. Recently, President Xi Jinping expressed his condolences to President Hussein on the serious terrorist attacks in Pakistan and firmly supported Pakistan’s efforts to fight terrorism, safeguard national stability and protect people’s lives, fully demonstrating China and Pakistan and the two countries. High mutual trust and deep friendship between the people. In the new historical period, the two armies should further strengthen communication and coordination, deepen defense and security cooperation, jointly safeguard regional peace and stability, and constantly push the relations between the two militaries to a new level.

Mugahid said that he thanked President Xi Jinping for the first time after the severe terrorist attacks in Pakistan. This is the fraternal concern of President Xi and the Chinese people to the Pakistani people and the army. It has strengthened our fight against terrorism and safeguarded the region. Safety determination and confidence. The Pakistani side cherishes the friendship between Pakistan and China and attaches great importance to the defense and security cooperation between the two armies. The Pakistani Air Force is willing to actively deepen pragmatic cooperation with China in various fields and unswervingly promote the continuous development of relations between the two militaries. (Ouyang Hao)
 
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Google Translate:
On July 18, Luo Ronghuai, general manager of China Aviation Industry, met with visiting Pakistan Air Force chief of staff, General Mujahid, in Beijing.
The two sides reviewed the long and far-reaching history of cooperation between China and Pakistan in the aviation industry. Mujahid said that the Pakistan Air Force highly appreciates the seriousness and professionalism of China's aviation industry partners. Thanks to the Chinese aviation industry's support for the Pakistan Air Force for many years, the Pakistan Air Force will always cherish the friendship with the Chinese aviation industry. Luo Ronghuai thanked the Pakistan Air Force for its trust in China's aviation industry and said that China's aviation industry will work together with the Pakistan Air Force to promote the continuous development and growth of bilateral cooperation projects and contribute to strengthening cooperation between China and Pakistan. The two sides reached an agreement on the subsequent deepening of relevant project cooperation.
 
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Man Sohail Aman had a vision. I am very scared that this new guy or his team might just go for a foreign licensed and locally produced fighter, killing off any prospect of strengthening our R&D abilities. Instead of actually making the FGF in house inside Pakistan.

He should visit Turkey as well. They have better goodies in terms of electronics and munitions to offer. And a solid know how since they have been manufacturing F-16s and now stealth composite materials used in F-35 Fuselage.

Moreover, with the T-129 along with local assembly making inroads into our defence industry Turkey will be a highly valuable partner in defence especially aerospace albeit an expensive one but one that will pay off in the long run.
 
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