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[Abu Zolfiqar]

Q- does the PAA operate the Mi-24?. the only information i have is the defection by AAF Mi-24s in the mid-80s. both the a/c are parked at quetta's samugli air-base in non-flyable condition!
Any Comments please!

interesting...! news to me!

SL has unfortunately opted out of JF17 deal for now.

indian lobby still exists in SL or are they waiting for newer block? SLAF is in dire need of modernization

 

[Maarkhoor]

interesting...! news to me!



indian lobby still exists in SL or are they waiting for newer block? SLAF is in dire need of modernization

During Afghanistan war some Afghan pilots deflected to Pakistan with the helos and Pakistan use these helos for some time then because of spare parts nonavailability we grounded these helos.

It is mentioned in some detail in the book ‘The Bear Trap’. 6 Mi-24s in total defected to Pakistan during the Afghan War. One was given to USA, one was gifted to China and one to France (or was it England?). The dates on which these 6 Mi-24s defected is given below together with the pilot(s) name and place where they landed.

Date -------- Pilot ---------- Place

13-07-1985 -------- Capt. Hussain -------- Landed at Miranshah
16-07-1985 -------- Capt. Daud -------- Landed at Miranshah
23-10-1986 -------- Major. Abdul Munir -------- Landed at Kohat
03-10-1987 -------- Capt. Nokolai Petrovich+2 -------- Landed in Mastuj
03-10-1987 -------- Maj. Yevginin Koszminin+2 -------- Landed at Miranshah
03-07-1989 -------- Capt. Sakiuulah -------- Landed at Qila Abduallh

 

[fatman17]

Export Sales Reported for Sino-Pakistan JF-17 Combat Jet

by Chris Pocock
January 13, 2016, 12:49 PM

Further exports of the Sino-Pakistan JF-17 “Thunder” combat aircraft have been reported, following an initial sale last year, which is now known to be 16 aircraft for Myanmar. According to Pakistan's President Mamnoon Hussain, Azerbaijan and Nigeria are both interested. But a proposed sale to Sri Lanka has been opposed by India, according to unconfirmed reports.

A Nigerian newspaper reported that the country’s 2016 defense budget includes funds for the acquisition of three JF-17s, as well as 10 Super Mushshak basic trainers that are also produced by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC). The JF-17 is a joint project between PAC and the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation. The Nigerian air force currently flies Chengdu F-7 fighters and uses armed Alpha Jet trainers in operations against domestic insurgents, as well as Mi-17SH, Mi-24V and Mi-35P attack helicopters. But a senior NAF officer told The Fighter Conference organized by Defence IQ in London last November that the service wants to replace the Alpha Jets soon.

Speculation that the Sri Lankan Air Force (SLAF) would become a customer was prompted by a visit to Pakistan last November by the SLAF commander, followed by a trip to Sri Lanka by the Pakistani prime minister early this month, when the deal was expected to be sealed. But according to India’s Sunday Express newspaper, Sri Lanka’s plan to buy eight to 12 JF-17s was strongly opposed by India. The SLAF currently operates Chengdu F-7s, as well as IAI Kfir and MiG-27 jet fighters.

All JF-17s are assembled in Pakistan, but China retains around 40 percent of the total workshare. After initially receiving 50 Block 1 versions, the Pakistan air force is taking delivery of 50 Block 2s. A Block 3 version with a new radar and internal targeting pod is planned, and a two-seat version is due to fly in China late this year.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Export Sales Reported for Sino-Pakistan JF-17 Combat Jet

by Chris Pocock
January 13, 2016, 12:49 PM

Further exports of the Sino-Pakistan JF-17 “Thunder” combat aircraft have been reported, following an initial sale last year, which is now known to be 16 aircraft for Myanmar. According to Pakistan's President Mamnoon Hussain, Azerbaijan and Nigeria are both interested. But a proposed sale to Sri Lanka has been opposed by India, according to unconfirmed reports.

A Nigerian newspaper reported that the country’s 2016 defense budget includes funds for the acquisition of three JF-17s, as well as 10 Super Mushshak basic trainers that are also produced by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC). The JF-17 is a joint project between PAC and the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation. The Nigerian air force currently flies Chengdu F-7 fighters and uses armed Alpha Jet trainers in operations against domestic insurgents, as well as Mi-17SH, Mi-24V and Mi-35P attack helicopters. But a senior NAF officer told The Fighter Conference organized by Defence IQ in London last November that the service wants to replace the Alpha Jets soon.

Speculation that the Sri Lankan Air Force (SLAF) would become a customer was prompted by a visit to Pakistan last November by the SLAF commander, followed by a trip to Sri Lanka by the Pakistani prime minister early this month, when the deal was expected to be sealed. But according to India’s Sunday Express newspaper, Sri Lanka’s plan to buy eight to 12 JF-17s was strongly opposed by India. The SLAF currently operates Chengdu F-7s, as well as IAI Kfir and MiG-27 jet fighters.

All JF-17s are assembled in Pakistan, but China retains around 40 percent of the total workshare. After initially receiving 50 Block 1 versions, the Pakistan air force is taking delivery of 50 Block 2s. A Block 3 version with a new radar and internal targeting pod is planned, and a two-seat version is due to fly in China late this year.

Export of JF-17 is very important for Pakistan since China refuses to produce jets for Chinese air force citing reasons that specification quite close to already inducted J-10 and because of this cost per unit is bit high and for future upgrades we need export customer not for profit but to cover R&D cost and upgrades.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

During Afghanistan war some Afghan pilots deflected to Pakistan with the helos and Pakistan use these helos for some time then because of spare parts nonavailability we grounded these helos.

It is mentioned in some detail in the book ‘The Bear Trap’. 6 Mi-24s in total defected to Pakistan during the Afghan War. One was given to USA, one was gifted to China and one to France (or was it England?). The dates on which these 6 Mi-24s defected is given below together with the pilot(s) name and place where they landed.

Date -------- Pilot ---------- Place

13-07-1985 -------- Capt. Hussain -------- Landed at Miranshah
16-07-1985 -------- Capt. Daud -------- Landed at Miranshah
23-10-1986 -------- Major. Abdul Munir -------- Landed at Kohat
03-10-1987 -------- Capt. Nokolai Petrovich+2 -------- Landed in Mastuj
03-10-1987 -------- Maj. Yevginin Koszminin+2 -------- Landed at Miranshah
03-07-1989 -------- Capt. Sakiuulah -------- Landed at Qila Abduallh

We're also given to Americans and Chinese.. And French.

 

[Maarkhoor]

We're also given to Americans and Chinese.. And French.

I know you have any idea when we will get helos fro Russia ?

 

[Cool_Soldier]

It looks SL has accepted Indian pressure and time being refused to buy JF17.

 

[fatman17]

PARIS: Pakistan Secures First Export Order for JF-17 Thunder
Posted on 17 June, 2015
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Pakistan Air Force JF-17 Thunder 13-146 from 16 Squadron ‘Black Panthers’ departing from Pakistan on June 7 for the Paris Air Show. Pakistan has now secured its first export order for the type, but is declining to identify the customer. PAF

PAKISTAN’S Chengdu/PAC JF-17 Thunder has secured its first export order. Speaking at the Paris Air Show on Monday, June 15, Air Commodore Khalid Mahmood, CEO of JF-17 Sales and Marketing, confirmed that a contract for the type had been signed with an unspecified Asian country.

He remained tight-lipped regarding the customer and also would give no idea of the number of aircraft involved. He did indicate, however, that deliveries will begin in 2017. It is believed that the order comprises ‘several’ batches, which will reportedly include some of the long-expected tandem two-seat version, which is still under development. It is slated to make its maiden flight around December 2016.

Three Pakistan Air Force (PAF) JF-17s are at Le Bourget this week for the Show, with two available for the daily flying displays, one being a spare (10-123 and 13-143 both from 26 Squadron ‘Black Spiders’), while the third (13-146 from 16 Squadron ‘Black Panthers’) is in the static park.

In addition to the aircraft, Pakistan has brought an 80-strong marketing team to promote the JF-17 and attempt to attract further sales. There has been interest from numerous countries in the aircraft, with Khalid stating that around a dozen countries are in serious talks about a possible purchase, while many others are showing interest.

Myanmar could be the un-named buyer, as the country has for some time been talking about a possible purchase and unsubstantiated media reports in March of this year suggested that a deal may have already been agreed at that time. Elsewhere, Argentina, Bangladesh, Egypt, Nigeria, Sri Lanka and Tajikistan have also previously been linked with possible sales, although with its recent Rafale deal, Egypt is now unlikely to proceed with a JF-17 buy. In early December last year, Pakistani officials said that Nigeria was close to an order for between 25 and 40 JF-17s, but nothing more has been heard of this proposal as yet.

Khalid said that the PAF has inducted 54 of the type to date, comprising 50 in Block I configuration and four Block II aircraft. The latter feature a fixed in-flight refuelling probe (although this has not been fitted on the initial aircraft), upgraded avionics and improved software. The Block I aircraft are being progressively upgraded to Block II.

A total of 50 Block IIs are being acquired, with the remaining 46 to be delivered at an average rate of three every couple of months. An additional 50 will then follow, all of these being in Block III configuration, bringing total purchases to 150. The last of the total of 150 are scheduled for delivery by the end of 2018. The final specifications for the Block III have yet to be finalised. AFD-Dave Allport

 

[Cool_Soldier]

I hope, Block 3 would be something totally different.Till now now around 66 JF17 examples have been inducted in PAF

 

[django]

During Afghanistan war some Afghan pilots deflected to Pakistan with the helos and Pakistan use these helos for some time then because of spare parts nonavailability we grounded these helos.

It is mentioned in some detail in the book ‘The Bear Trap’. 6 Mi-24s in total defected to Pakistan during the Afghan War. One was given to USA, one was gifted to China and one to France (or was it England?). The dates on which these 6 Mi-24s defected is given below together with the pilot(s) name and place where they landed.

Date -------- Pilot ---------- Place

13-07-1985 -------- Capt. Hussain -------- Landed at Miranshah
16-07-1985 -------- Capt. Daud -------- Landed at Miranshah
23-10-1986 -------- Major. Abdul Munir -------- Landed at Kohat
03-10-1987 -------- Capt. Nokolai Petrovich+2 -------- Landed in Mastuj
03-10-1987 -------- Maj. Yevginin Koszminin+2 -------- Landed at Miranshah
03-07-1989 -------- Capt. Sakiuulah -------- Landed at Qila Abduallh

Those damn Afghans claimed them back during the Karzia era.

 

[Imran Khan]

interesting...! news to me!



indian lobby still exists in SL or are they waiting for newer block? SLAF is in dire need of modernization

lagta hai ap meri posts ghor se nhi pardhty ;


1 MiG-21Bis
6 Su-22M4
2 Mig-17F
2 An-26
6 Mi-24D
we got from afghan& soviet pilots as gift

Not much news on Pakistan except for the following 2 small items:

1. passing through shannon airport, ireland on november 5 was new production Gulfstream G450 N490GA (c/n 4090). it was on its delivery flight to the PAF with which it will be serialled J-756. the a/c had arrived directly from the Gulfstream Aerospace factory at savannah, georgia and had been scheduled to make a fuel stop at gardermoen, norway, but instead made a weather diversion to shannon. it wore full PAF colours but had the US civil registration taped over its PAF serial for the delivery flight.the PAF already has a single Gulfstream IV SP in service. J-755 (c/n 1258) that was delivered in Dec 2005 and is operated by N0. 3 SQDN at chaklala.

2. Upgraded Hindsvery interesting article). the author Alexander Miladenov has listed 51 world-wise Mi-24 operators including Pakistan Army Aviation Corps.
Q- does the PAA operate the Mi-24?. the only information i have is the defection by AAF Mi-24s in the mid-80s. both the a/c are parked at quetta's samugli air-base in non-flyable condition!
Any Comments please!

total 6 of them sir jee
Date -------- Pilot ---------- Place

13-07-1985 -------- Capt. Hussain -------- Landed at Miranshah
16-07-1985 -------- Capt. Daud -------- Landed at Miranshah
23-10-1986 -------- Major. Abdul Munir -------- Landed at Kohat
03-10-1987 -------- Capt. Nokolai Petrovich+2 -------- Landed in Mastuj
03-10-1987 -------- Maj. Yevginin Koszminin+2 -------- Landed at Miranshah
03-07-1989 -------- Capt. Sakiuulah -------- Landed at Qila Abduallh

 

[Mr304_AJ]

Sadly our Coastal depth is not too much so we have to Keep in mind current Scenario of CPEC "Specifically Gwadar port" and rapid expansion of Indian Navy Its would be better to have Naval Version JF-17 Thunder block 3+ at least 3-4 Squadron.
what do you guyzz think...

 

[fatman17]

CBRN Assessment

F-16 sale to Pakistan held up by US Congress

Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

13 January 2016

A planned US sale of eight new F-16 fighters to Pakistan agreed in October 2015 has been held up by the US Congress, according to local news reports as well as Pakistani officials who spoke to IHS Jane's .

"Some members of the [US] Congress are asking if F-16s are the right weapon to be given to Pakistan, which is basically fighting a domestic armed insurgency," said one Pakistani official who spoke to IHS Jane's on 14 January, confirming the delay. "They [US Congressional members] don't realise we are fighting an enemy [the Taliban], which poses a threat to global security interests," he added.

 

[fatman17]

5th ISR aircraft joins PAF /PAA

 

[fatman17]

JF-17 Thunder: The visit of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to Sri Lanka did not result in a purchase of JF-17 fighters. A Sri Lankan Air Force spokesperson said that while the fighter is still being considered, among others, a deal was never going to be signed alongside Sharif's visit to Colombo. The JF-17 still seems to be the top choice for Sri Lanka which is looking to replace the Israeli Kfri jet currently in use.