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I would go for the Iranian F-313 a fifth gen platform, hopefully as the relations between Pak and Iran are improving I don not see why we can not procure these remarkable pieces of tech.
Bro that is a ridiculous idea. Just as F-22 is not for sale even to closest allies of USA, Qaher-313 is for no Air Force except Iran. They will outright reject the idea.
Please do not come up with such fantasies again.
 
Iran's fifth gen technology can easily be purchased from ebay. :omghaha:
just because its irani doesn't mean its not good. the design may get u decieved but always be sharp enough to let some of ur thoughts to think it might be lethal, dont u think ?
 
I would go for the Iranian F-313 a fifth gen platform, hopefully as the relations between Pak and Iran are improving I don not see why we can not procure these remarkable pieces of tech.

Cmon man this plane is a joke. They don't have the technology to make a stealth plane. They have the ambition but they don't have the tech.
 
just because its irani doesn't mean its not good. the design may get u decieved but always be sharp enough to let some of ur thoughts to think it might be lethal, dont u think ?

Sir, American, Russian & Chinese technology is accepted everywhere. We are talking about only J-31 just because we do not have enough funds and China is the only country we have good relations with. Imagine selling JF-17 to South Korea who can buy latest F-16s and also having good relations with U.S.
 
I would go for the Iranian F-313 a fifth gen platform, hopefully as the relations between Pak and Iran are improving I don not see why we can not procure these remarkable pieces of tech.


Bro that is a ridiculous idea. Just as F-22 is not for sale even to closest allies of USA, Qaher-313 is for no Air Force except Iran. They will outright reject the idea.
Please do not come up with such fantasies again.

Iran's fifth gen technology can easily be purchased from ebay. :omghaha:


Cmon man this plane is a joke. They don't have the technology to make a stealth plane. They have the ambition but they don't have the tech.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Thanks!! I really needed a good laugh!!

Guys we are laughing at it but for once lets hypothetically consider Qaher-313.
1) It requires a bigger engine.
2) Its size needs to be increased so that it may carry a higher pay load.
3) One does not know what kind of anti stealth paint has been applied to it so it is not possible to say if it is truly a stealth. This thing can be improved though.
4) What kind of 5 gen radar and avionics have been added are all unknown. So one must consider them to be updated.
5) The over all design does seem like it can get airborne but then there are some ridiculous designs that have flown over time both US and Russian.
6) Possibly an external weapons delivery pod can be added.
7) The range is also a guarded secret so one must think it is not more than 800-1000 km's(it has 2 US copied engines).

At the end how a Pakistani would look at this is the entire aircraft needs to be redesigned. Though it might have potential to evolve.

How an Iranian would look at it is they would be able to get all the technology that was restricted for a long time. Though the Iranian technology would be lost but it might leave them with a true 5 Gen. fighter aircraft.

So,

If Iran does export this fighter aircraft it would still feel happy that they have won despite all the sanctions.

Hey while we are going to buy everything under the sun, might as well go for this
It could be added to the PAF museum. There is a simulator of this in Royal Hendon Museum and it is really difficult to fly as it is too uncomfortable.

Its from America and a Zionist plot, I am surprised flight has not been declared haram yet.

Zarvan considers Leonardo da Vinci as true pioneer of flight.
If that is true then what do you think about under water designs that were also found made by Leonardo da Vinci.

One must also consider how painful it must be for Archimedes if he is not considered as the one who pioneered the concept.
 
Possibility of announcement of a new deal for PAF when Chinese president visits. ?FC20 purchase(unlikely i think) ?J31MoU & joint production(possibly) OR maybe something new related to JF17s.
 
Possibility of announcement of a new deal for PAF when Chinese president visits. ?FC20 purchase(unlikely i think) ?J31MoU & joint production(possibly) OR maybe something new related to JF17s.
FC 20 I guess With russian engines it was delayed due to engine issue .
 
There is only one hope for F-313, that china and russia help them to acquire the stealth technology (and also avionics and other tech) otherwise it won't be possible imho. And the size is too small, plz make it larger otherwise it would just be a defense air superiority fighter with no capability of attack bcz it cannot carry payload for bombing missions. Anyhow i'm not very hopeful. But who knows......

Possibility of announcement of a new deal for PAF when Chinese president visits. ?FC20 purchase(unlikely i think) ?J31MoU & joint production(possibly) OR maybe something new related to JF17s.

I hope its J31. We should not go towards FC20 now, just get more F-16's MLU & blk52, and invest in this 5th gen platform and hope for the best that PL-13 or PL-12D (ramjet missile) is as capable as Meteor missile which india is getting with rafale and they are also trying to integrate it with su30.
 
Don't want to blow the roof but hear strong chatter that Pakistan has invested in this project.
Anyways, have also heard that Thunders are practising to escort the Chinese President's plane once it enters Pakistan's air space.


Pt 1 maybe
Pt 2 definitely
 

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