PAK Navy successfully intercepts Indian Submarine, foils intrusion

[CriticalThought]

This sub is certainly compromised and can be identified as INS Kalvari.
Any other sub can also be identified of being off the same class/type.

I am thinking wild here. But it could be the enemy's ploy to let you verify signatures, them spoof them in real war.

On the other hand, if this was indeed scorpene, the enemy may be trying to verify the damage due to online leak of specs.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

I am thinking wild here. But it could be the enemy's ploy to let you verify signatures, them spoof them in real war.

On the other hand, if this was indeed scorpene, the enemy may be trying to verify the damage due to online leak of specs.

Wild but not practical.
Online leaks are documents/data.

These acoustic & magnetic signatures are live sounds/noises and characteristics, while the systems are running. They are available otherwise.

 

[Secret Service]

Navy statement pretty much described it with words "lates in Indian Navy"... It appears to be Kalvari-class based on Scorpene-class sub.... from all over the look... Video contains two footage like in start it shows a file video of Kalvari-class and then detection video while sub was made to come out of water (night vision recording). People here may be confused with file footage that sub was already on the water but that video is for reference only. Original video of detection is in B&W (Night Vision).



Read above post... Two footage are edited in start, 1) of file video for reference and then, 2) original detection footage in night vision.

Reports didnt came on media, actually two subs were detected. One was a kilo class snorkeling near Pakistani waters and other was scorpene class kalvari detected underwater at unknown place.

 

[Benign Persona]

here is a defense analyst for you. now you tell me which navy's submarine would want its enemy to know where she is.

 

[CriticalThought]

Wild but not practical.
Online leaks are documents/data.

These acoustic & magnetic signatures are live sounds/noises and characteristics, while the systems are running. They are available otherwise.

Signatures are only as good as the sensors receiving them. A spoofer doesn't need to replicate them exactly, he just needs to cause the sensor to 'see' something that isn't there. We need to be extremely vigilant here, because this type of warfare would be the hallmark of Israelis. Another point to note, the enemy could have modified the signatures on purpose to feed wrong data into our database. We should not consider the enemy incompetent.

 

[metalfalcon]

Guys did Indians went to UNCLE SAM this time as well to complain that Pakistan has used American supplied weapons against India ??

Pakistan used American made P3-C Orion to detect the Indian Submarine right ??

 

[HRK]

Scorpene has AIP,

plz read:

The new SSK, despite reports to the contrary, has not been fitted with an air-independent propulsion (AIP) system, although there are plans to retrofit all subs of the class with a domestically designed and built AIP in the future.

Source: 1, 2, 3, 4

it does not need to snorkel..

Plz read

Hope this will put the theory of Indian Sub Surfacing at their own will at rest,
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Indian Sub was well within international water. It showed no sign of being chased, or running away. Pakistan's claim to thwart it off its territory for peace is just another attempt to initiate and terminate a propaganda battle solely on its own terms.

Wow just wow .... what a comment

For all other plz note PN during last month had already issued the NAVAREA warning for the closer of the concern area for NAVAL Exercises ..... secondly during such a tense situation enemy sub coming close to the the area already notified for closer is at least an act of provocation IF not the aggression.

So comment based on blind patriotism fall under the propaganda not the RECORDED AND PUBLISHED EVIDENCE

Regards

 

[CriticalThought]

plz read:

Source: 1, 2, 3, 4

Plz read
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Hope this will rest the the theory of Indian Sub Surfacing at their own will , will be put in rest


Wow just wow .... what a comment

For all other plz note PN during last month had already issued the NAVAREA Waring for the closer of the concern area for NAVAL Exercises ..... secondly during in such a tense situation enemy sub coming close to the the area already notified for closer is at least an act of provocation IF not the aggression.

So comment based on blind patriotism fall under the propaganda not the RECORDED AND PUBLISHED EVIDENCE

Regards

The most important thing is, why would a hostile submarine give away its signature just to prove a point? He has not provided any explanation for that.

 

[imadul]

As it was in international water Pakistan cant' destroy it legally but if it indeed destroy it a all our war could brook out which all side would like to avoid .

But indian modus operandi has been to deny any loss. So how could they react. The boat would be preserved as fossils in the bottom of Arabian sea.

 

[Champion_Usmani]

This sub is certainly compromised and can be identified as INS Kalvari.
Any other sub can also be identified of being off the same class/type.

What is acoustic of a submarine?? my understanding is that each ship has its own specific Acoustic noise, and if a submarine give away its acoustic, then its done.
Am i correct? ? or is there something more to it?

 

[MikeZulu]

What is acoustic of a submarine?? my understanding is that each ship has its own specific Acoustic noise, and if a submarine give away its acoustic, then its done.
Am i correct? ? or is there something more to it?

Acoustic means the acoustic signature of a submarine .. The sound waves it generates due to its machinery and components .. The more the sound the more the signature.. and easier detection.

 

[Axis Of Logic]

Guys please confirm this news!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1103295833167011842

 

[Fawad alam]

plz read:

Source: 1, 2, 3, 4

Plz read
View attachment 544650

Hope this will put the theory of Indian Sub Surfacing at their own will at rest,

Wow just wow .... what a comment

For all other plz note PN during last month had already issued the NAVAREA Waring for the closer of the concern area for NAVAL Exercises ..... secondly during such a tense situation enemy sub coming close to the the area already notified for closer is at least an act of provocation IF not the aggression.

So comment based on blind patriotism fall under the propaganda not the RECORDED AND PUBLISHED EVIDENCE

Regards

I think there is no doubt that we could have hit the Sub there is no law in the world to prohibit us, but what i want to know is why we did not do that?
If we destroy the Indian Sub then how they will know what happened to him, I guess they will wait for any signals from SUB and after that they will start investigation about the whereabouts of SUB and where he was located last time and it may required many days to conclude actual events(even they will not accept the loss).
In my opinion we should not allow the Sub to go back like this, instead try to destroy it quietly and come back home.(@MastanKhan is correct in my opinion)
I know what we feel when Indain targeted our Atlantic plane and we lost 16 of our brave men, The blood of our fallen soldiers should not go in vain.

Last thing i want to say is, they are here to hit and they will hit anything if they get any chance.

 

[CodeforFood]

I think there is no doubt that we could have hit the Sub there is no law in the world to prohibit us, but what i want to know is why we did not do that?
If we destroy the Indian Sub then how they will know what happened to him, I guess they will wait for any signals from SUB and after that they will start investigation about the whereabouts of SUB and where he was located last time and it may required many days to conclude actual events(even they will not accept the loss).
In my opinion we should not allow the Sub to go back like this, instead try to destroy it quietly and come back home.(@MastanKhan is correct in my opinion)
I know what we feel when Indain targeted our Atlantic plane and we lost 16 of our brave men, The blood of our fallen soldiers should not go in vain.

Last thing i want to say is, they are here to hit and they will hit anything if they get any chance.

Considering the current situation it is best not escalate further. I think the response was appropriate. Detecting the sub is a pretty significant success as well. It basically renders it useless in the current engagement scenario.

 

[MastanKhan]

Considering the current situation it is best not escalate further. I think the response was appropriate. Detecting the sub is a pretty significant success as well. It basically renders it useless in the current engagement scenario.

Hi,

The situation needs to be escalated---. A nation cannot live like cowards forever---.

This was pure COWARDICE---.

The indians dared us to take the sub out---by choice or in error---. It should have been allowed to come in as much as it could---.

It is the same thing as Paf did---it allowed the enemy planes to go back---.

If the pakistani public and some politicians had not blasted the PAF---they would have stayed cowed down as long as they could have---.

Mujahid Anwar Khan is no warrior---.

Sohail Aman was---.

The Atlantique should have been avenged---.