PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[RealNapster]

That's the confusing part; several years back, I heard they would cap the JF-17s at around 250. I hope that's not true, and we push it towards your 300-350 since we do not have to worry about parts, etc., unlike the Western platforms. But, honestly, this platform and J-10C are what we need to bulk on to get that parity with IAF; it would be foolish if we do not; there's enough real estate in Baluchistan and Sindh to establish large joint air bases with Pakistan Navy. Then we should have something in place on a rotating basis to position our planes in Qatar or Bahrain; if the Pakistan Navy gets its air arm, this will give us cover from North and South in the Indian Ocean.

Better strategy will be to replace all JF-17 block 1 with Block 3. As well as add further 50+ block 3. This way we get 65+- Block 2 and 100 block 3s added with 100 J-10C. Parity is not always achievable strategy though sought after. Many factors included.

 

[Princeps Senatus]

Better strategy will be to replace all JF-17 block 1 with Block 3. As well as add further 50+ block 3. This way we get 65+- Block 2 and 100 block 3s added with 100 J-10C. Parity is not always achievable strategy though sought after. Many factors included.

Block 1s don't need to be replaced they can just be MLUed

 

[MIRauf]

If not mistaken, all Block-I were upgraded to Block-II level or are getting the Block-II upgrade as they go through the overhaul. You can add 100 Block-III on top of 100+ ( Block-II 'including block-I upgraded to block-II. ) and still have potent 200+ JF-17 fleet to be the work horse.

 

[Abid123]

And you think too highly of Indian. They even have problem flying fighter jet and you think they can destroy PAF on ground in few hours only? I think Indian Air Force even has problem dealing with AF like Nigeria or Angola.

I am not thinking too highly of the IAF. The problem is that certain Pakistani and Chinese members like overestimate themselves while underestimating IAF.

I actually think about the worst case scenario for the PAF. In terms of skills and professionalism I rate the PAF much higher than the IAF.

PAF is the only force in the contemporary history that has fought an air battle with a near peer adversary, which happens to be 6 times larger than Pakistan, in a very complex air environment (with force multipliers like AEWC/IFR, 4th generation plus aircraft, BVR missiles, complex air defense systems) and to come out on top. Credit where due.

However the reality is that the IAF is twice the size PAF and has twice the number of 4th generation aircraft.

Pakistan is a relatively big country,but lacks strategic depth. Pakistan at its widest point is only 500 kms wide and Indian satellites keep 24x7 watch over Pakistan. Most Pakistani air bases are close to the Indian border meaning they are vulnerable to Indian cruise missiles/ballistic missiles as well as IAF fighter aircraft.

Pakistan needs airbases in Afghanistan or build mountain airbases like China and North Korea have done.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Deino]

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I heard similar rumours too ...

 

[Tipu7]

Hi,

Possibly---300 to 350 aircraft----for BLK 3 +++ configuration of the JF17 aircraft.

The BLK 3 is headed to take on the Rafale and come out ahead---. There is a surprise in the making---.

That's not how plans are folding in reality. PAF is now more inclined towards J-10CE than Jf-17C/D.
Jf17 is almost reaching the requisite figure needed within air force.

 

[Mrc]

That's not how plans are folding in reality. PAF is now more inclined towards J-10CE than Jf-17C/D.
Jf17 is almost reaching the requisite figure needed within air force.

Why not to replace 200 plus mirages with jf and place them in storage reserves

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Pakistan needs airbases in Afghanistan or build mountain airbases like China and North Korea

no. please don't

That's not how plans are folding in reality. PAF is now more inclined towards J-10CE than Jf-17C/D.
Jf17 is almost reaching the requisite figure needed within air force.

why you say that?
explain.. oh because we got 12 J10?

 

[siegecrossbow]

Any chance of them coming to Shaheen IX if we hold it this year?

 

[MastanKhan]

That's not how plans are folding in reality. PAF is now more inclined towards J-10CE than Jf-17C/D.
Jf17 is almost reaching the requisite figure needed within air force.

Hi,

I don't disagree with that---.

 

[TheSolution]

no. please don't

Why?

That's not how plans are folding in reality. PAF is now more inclined towards J-10CE than Jf-17C/D.
Jf17 is almost reaching the requisite figure needed within air force.

How many units is that approximately?

 

[SQ8]

no. please don't


why you say that?
explain.. oh because we got 12 J10?

Each platform was brought in for a particular use case and the one for the JF-17 has been fulfilled. The J-10CE is in a way the PAF’s initial vision of what it thought the J-10 could have when it first looked at it back in 2001-2.
Some of the leeway with the JF-17 is being experienced on the J-10C as well including being able to add in house weapons. Might even see it end up with a rebuild factory at Kamra.

Part of the switch might even be the access to the powerplant similar to the access with RD-93.

 

[TheSolution]

Each platform was brought in for a particular use case and the one for the JF-17 has been fulfilled. The J-10CE is in a way the PAF’s initial vision of what it thought the J-10 could have when it first looked at it back in 2001-2.
Some of the leeway with the JF-17 is being experienced on the J-10C as well including being able to add in house weapons. Might even see it end up with a rebuild factory at Kamra.

Part of the switch might even be the access to the powerplant similar to the access with RD-93.

Any further news on the future 5th gen platform and project Azm?

 

[SQ8]

Any further news on the future 5th gen platform and project Azm?

Dead in the water(other than people showing up for chai samosas) as far as the dots connect from all channels.