PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Princeps Senatus]

what is the serial number?

Hard to tell, at first I was seeing 119 now it looks like 112.

 

[Ghessan]

Hard to tell, at first I was seeing 119 now it looks like 112.

they used to leak photo of the very first aircraft of the batch by that logic can be 113

 

[Deino]

@Deino Do these have a Chinese engine?

Yes !

 

[Deino]

Hard to tell, at first I was seeing 119 now it looks like 112.

Indeed ... looks like 119, but due to the blur it could also be 113, 114, 115, 116 or 118!

 

[Falcon26]

May be I am wrong but for what I know to be a 4.5 gen fighter it should have supercruise capability. If so can j10c do supercruise?

There’s no 4.5 generation fighter than can supercruise. In fact, the only planes that can do so without afterburner is the F-22. Glad to be corrected.

 

[Princeps Senatus]

There’s no 4.5 generation fighter than can supercruise. In fact, the only planes that can do so without afterburner is the F-22. Glad to be corrected.

This. F-22 is the only one that can do meaningful supercruise. For all the rest it's just a gimmick.

 

[syed_yusuf]

There’s no 4.5 generation fighter than can supercruise. In fact, the only planes that can do so without afterburner is the F-22. Glad to be corrected.

Rafale and EF2000 can

are they not 4.5 Gen?

 

[Falcon26]

Rafale and EF2000 can

are they not 4.5 Gen?

No they can’t without an afterburner.

 

[MajesticPug]

No they can’t without an afterburner.

Only F22 has demonstrated supersonic cruising ability. I heard J20 has recently achieved this milestone with the new engines but not sure. Rafale, J10C are not 5th-generation and they are not subject to this supercruising milepost test. However, F35 was designed as a 5th-gen and how come it can't supercruise? Should it be marketed as a 5th-gen? Perhaps the US military no longer considers supercruising a critical ability and distinguishing criteria for 5th-gen?

 

[MastanKhan]

Only F22 has demonstrated supersonic cruising ability. I heard J20 has recently achieved this milestone with the new engines but not sure. Rafale, J10C are not 5th-generation and they are not subject to this supercruising milepost test. However, F35 was designed as a 5th-gen and how come it can't supercruise? Should it be marketed as a 5th-gen? Perhaps the US military no longer considers supercruising a critical ability and distinguishing criteria for 5th-gen?

Hi,

Super cruise is more of a " i got it thing ". Most f the aircraft that can go super cruise---it is for a very short time.

 

[GriffinsRule]

I bet any fighter can "super cruise" in a clean config with less than half internal fuel and flying nose down letting gravity do it's thing. But as mentioned only F-22 has the actual capability to do so in any meaningful way in a course of an a-a mission

 

[TaimiKhan]

Indeed ... looks like 119, but due to the blur it could also be 113, 114, 115, 116 or 118!

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Deino, which engine is this ?? Seems different from the ones delivered or its same engine ??

 

[siegecrossbow]

Deino, which engine is this ?? Seems different from the ones delivered or its same engine ??

WS-10.

 

[TaimiKhan]

WS-10.

And the earlier provided ones have the russian powerplant ???

 

[siegecrossbow]

And the earlier provided ones have the russian powerplant ???

Nope, all WS-10.