PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Battlion25]

J10c is not used to replace F16, but to replace Mirage. PAF should replace F16 with 5G fighter.

Yes this. I would also like to highlight that the F16s are a match for the rafale but Pakistan wants to keep it's qualtitative edge over IAF hence why the addition of J10c due to it's BVR range being 200km+... The goal is to induct both manned and unmanned 5G fighter jets by 2029 MIUS and TFX and to induct 6G by 2040 and 7G by 2049. This is a continuous process but the key goal is to maintain the qualtitative edge over India on a continuously basis the dice keeps rolling

 

[MH.Yang]

Yes this. I would also like to highlight that the F16s are a match for the rafale but Pakistan wants to keep it's qualtitative edge over IAF hence why the addition of J10c due to it's BVR range being 200km+... The goal is to induct both manned and unmanned 5G fighter jets by 2029 MIUS and TFX and to induct 6G by 2040 and 7G by 2049. This is a continuous process but the key goal is to maintain the qualtitative edge over India on a continuously basis the dice keeps rolling

In my opinion, the overall capability of J10c is about equal to F16b50/52. The best single engine 4G fighter is still F16E/F.
I don't think Pakistan will replace F16A/B/C/D with J10c. Obviously, the gap between the two is not as big as JF-17 and F7. J10c should be used to replace Mirage and deal with Rafale.
In the long run, Pakistan should replace F16 with 5G fighters after their airframe life is exhausted. India will have 5G fighters sooner or later. PAF can't only see Rafale.

 

[Trango Towers]

@dbc pointed out that it is hard to fit CFTs on a detla canard. That leaves us with tanker options only. Either buddy refuelling or dedicated aircraft. That could benefit our Mirage and JF17 fleet too

Why is it hard?
Unless it has an adverse effect on the aerodynamic performance the rest is basic engineering

Even French Rafale Pilots are talking about the Turkish (Azerbaijani and Pakistani) counter to the Rafale (mostly focusing on the Qatari Rafales), right now; LIVE

They have to talk because although they make money milking the Indian cow they also know in the hands of Indians they are likely to get very bad press soon

 

[HRK]

I forsee that we will be going into a war any time between now n 2024.

May I ask why so? Respectfully

The higher ups must be predicting war before 2030.

In May 2024 next Indian general election will held, therefore there is a possibility that India will do some misadventure before that time may be in 2023

 

[Trango Towers]

If 25 planes take off at one time, there should be more than 25 planes. According to the Complete preparation rate 75%, the number of aircraft should not be less than 30. I guess there should be 36 J10c, two squadrons.

Our squadrons are 18 aircraft?

 

[MH.Yang]

Our squadrons are 18 aircraft?

Am I wrong? I remember 3 squadrons of 36 aircraft in China and 2 squadrons of 36 aircraft in Pakistan.

 

[Trango Towers]

Am I wrong? I remember 3 squadrons of 36 aircraft in China and 2 squadrons of 36 aircraft in Pakistan.

I always thought a squadron was 12 aircraft

 

[aziqbal]

did the minster say 25? well it makes no sense

he also called is Jaaayyyessss 10

I would say 36 x J10C for starts

 

[MH.Yang]

I always thought a squadron was 12 aircraft

Pakistan's Air Force squadron is also 12 aircraft?
I've read an article before saying that the number of aircraft in Pakistan's squadron is 50% more than that in China. Let me look for this article.

 

[StructE]

I always thought a squadron was 12 aircraft

PAF uses 12 aircraft / squadron for aircraft types with higher rate of availability, 18 aircraft / squadron for aircraft types with lower rate of availability, my understanding is that F-6 and A-5 squadrons in past used to have 18 aircrafts and Mirages were somewhere in between 12 - 18. Let's see how J-10 is distributed.

 

[Trango Towers]

PAF uses 12 aircraft / squadron for aircraft types with higher rate of availability, 18 aircraft / squadron for aircraft types with lower rate of availability, my understanding is that F-6 and A-5 squadrons in past used to have 18 aircrafts and Mirages were somewhere in between 12 - 18. Let's see how J-10 is distributed.

Thank you...that makes sense

 

[SIPRA]

In May 2024 next Indian general election will held, therefore there is a possibility that India will do some misadventure before that time may be in 2023

Pray, that they do it with China.

 

[Trango Towers]

Pray, that they do it with China.

Personally I don't think they have a chance with us either

 

[HRK]

Pray, that they do it with China.

they will never engage China in armed battle, in fact even if China increase the pressure in Ladakh India will try to release it towards Pakistan & AJK

 

[SIPRA]

Personally I don't think they have a chance with us either

Yes, but if they take a simultaneous "panga" with China and Pakistan, then Bharat Mata can have the pleasure of "double penetration".

they will never engage China in armed battle, in fact even if China increase the pressure in Ladakh India will try to release towards Pakistan & AJK

That is what I also believe, but sometimes, out of nowhere, 1962 happens.