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PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

We know that PAF is not in urgent need of fighters, CAC also has no shortage of orders, PLAAF has no shortage of funds.
If CAC and PAF are not sure to can shoot down Rafale with J10C, they will continue to wait.
You are to emotional to understand my post, so I will just ignore and Pass on.

Governing US becoming more tough day by day, Some presidents and pentagon specially wants to keep that leverage with Pakistan but there senate doesn't, and no president finds himself strong enough or the courage to bypass senate on its own now a days. The American decline will have a fear share of its stupid senate and that history will remember.
Lobbies, Its always Lobbies that will win you stuff or make you lose stuff from Washington. Right now Indian, Lobbies are doing their job well or lets say better than Pakistan, the thing is that Indian are not alone in this as most of Jewish Lobbies will obviously take sides of Indians as they see Pakistan as a potential enemy.
 
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Pratt and Whitney confirmed, Alhamdullilah! ✌️:usflag:

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Meanwhile Tejas tied to a rock....with a yellow rope. Only in India 🤣🤣

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Congratulations to PAF, J10C with WS10B engine, swash plate AESA and many more goodies will be treat to watch.
By the way....Where is our Airforce expert..... Mr. @SQ8 .........He seeems not too happy on this issue here, hiding somewhere under F16 wings may be....
F16 Dominance era is about to end in PAF.....Very SAD, he needs to move forward and welcome the development i/o worshipping his ego like always.
Poor nooni corrupt family man trying his best to make a crow out of imaginary feather.
 
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Why tie it to a rock?
Can the Tejas become a robot to escape?

Wind can actually lift it off its tires a little bit in extremely strong wind. That could move it around potentially. Imagine a flat cardboard box in the wind. The amount of lift is beyond what most people think it is. Same as designing a ceiling to a building. The wind force is actually intense. Tornadoes often rip entire roof structure off buildings just by some motion through slight cracks in door gaps.

But in this case they have done it wrong. If they wanted to use this method (heavy concrete block) then they need ideally two points in for example 60 degrees apart with tension in the rope. This slack and only one point doesn't do anything except if the wind creates motion in the perfect direction - secured point and cylinder block.
 
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Why is there a massive red dildo mounted on the middle of the jet? What exactly does the IAF intend to do with this creation?


So it doesn't fly away

Indian AI is at another level
you do realize that is a self goal ?

America made a big mistake of baring PAF from additional F-16's, they could easily release the remaining F-16's block 52's which would give America leverage over Pakistan when ever and if they need it, they still have it in many other systems which is in used of Pakistan Armed forces, but here I must say that America did a terrible mistake by losing a critical ally because of a idiotic and incapable Ally (India), now Chinese has give PAF AESA equipped Fighter jets with Pl-15's, PAF's love and interest in F-16's will diminish even further.

But Its finally here and that's all it matters, next Air engagement with IAF will glue French and Chinese along with the rest of the world because the stakes from countries just now get a lot higher, just imagine if a J-10 gets a kill of Rafale or Su-30MKI how bad it would be for those fighters and how good it would be for J-10-s future Export orders. So many Sad news coming from Home but finally some good news.

Sorry Mods can't help it, Pakistani's after J-10 Arrival be like...
I thought usa has just stopped free supply of arms to Pakistan. Pakistan can always buy with cash.

Like the rest of the world.
 
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So, now that the birds are coming home - here's what I do believe will happen (this is my opinion - might not be fact).

Until now, Shaheen Ex have paid specially attention to MKIs. And how to take them down. This will soon add Rafale to the mix, as PAF increases weapon commonality (JF and J10C a la PL-15) with PLAAF . I would then find it excruciatingly hard to believe that they will not share electronic intelligence (sigint) on the IAF bird and meteor, from wherever they could glean it.

They more info they share, the probability of PAF and PLAAF taking down a common adversary goes up, as much. And with more birds and weapons now being shared between the two airfares, it only makes more sense.
 
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Do you believe now ??
First of all I never said that J10cs are not coming i only said it will be confirmed once we get some leaked proof or lets say some leaked tender notices, as was the case with VT4 or SH15 or HQ-9, in the past as with the case with big ticket acuasitions like new bathes of vipers and so on. So now we have proof so congrats a very nice capability enhancement for PAF!!
May Allah put fear into the hearts of our enemies through this jet!!!!
On a lighter note nowhere in the world it happens that a whole community starts jumping up and down and behaving like hooligans just because SR said so about a stretegic aquisition!!!
 
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Next time American warships violate Chinese waters near Taiwan, the Chinese airforce should test your theory out .
A lot of western countries have been generously giving you a chance to show how much better these fighter jets are as compared to the shoddy western stuff. But your spokesman proves to be more active than your AF.

Maybe they can test out their "superior" stuff.

China gives them so many opportunities to start something. We'll wait for Taiwan to declare independence or for US and Japan to do something every time we violate Miyako Strait. China generously gives them ample opportunity to show off every time we fly through Taiwan and sail through Miyako Strait.

Also China is still waiting for India to block Malacca Strait. Ample opportunity for India but Indian mouths are busier than their muscles and brains.

The US wanted to create kinetic war instead of political war with China back in the late 2000s. Preparations and getting their media and population willing was done. China revealed A2AD weapons which made Obama engage only in political sphere with his pivot to Asia in a longer game of strategic influence over Asian nations. USA and China vying for regional influence through economic clout.

USA wanted to be able to counter ASBM. While they improved SPY-3 and SPY-6 with SM-6 and newer interceptors, China needed to upgrade A2AD as well and that came next decade in the form of HGVs and HCMs. Combined with much improved nuclear MAD options. The aim is to hold the military engagement back and not as option for US so they can only engage in political sphere. Over time, this is ineffective for US and economic warfare is where this war is fought and won unless US wants to go kinetic and die together. China's entire strategy is to simply prevent the US from having kinetic war option so that China's economy inevitably overtakes in time. Taiwan civil war issue will resolve itself once economic dominance secures military and then political dominance. Civil war reasons themselves are already over. Taiwan side wanted a strong China and now they already have it. Their original reasons and objections to CCP have already been resolved. The rest is simply overcome with one or at most two more generations. The older Taiwanese generation that fought and lived through the civil war wanted China to be nationalistic and strong. A superpower in the full sense not the indian way. They did not believe CCP could rule China well and make it into true power and restore Chinese influence and status. Now the trends and results even are clear to all who can view the world without delusion or misunderstanding. China is on the correct path and even its strategies employed to get there is passable despite faults and errors. Give it 10 years and what is obvious to us now will be more obvious to every observer. Give it 20 and the result of this struggle is clear to all. Give it 30 years and I would wager that the journey is complete.

In 30 years, India would either be partitioned and balkanized due to internal collapse from genuinely poor leadership (as opposed to only being criticized by its enemies of poor leadership like China), or in a similar state with even more poor and destitute people who are struggling as India's population still rises and then plateaus inevitably and eventually but the poor and rich divide in India will be even greater. There is a small chance that India has revolutions and begins a similar journey. All these things are natural forces. There is only so far the Indian resources can be used to keep things as they are and so far the downtrodden Indians will remain on their knees.

The engine of prosperity for China has ironically been a good form of well managed authoritarianism. If we didn't have that, we'd be like India. When the purpose of this authoritarianism is fulfilled, people naturally demand more rights and individual freedoms. At that point which is a few decades away, Taiwanese of that generation who are not even born yet would look to mainland far far more favorably. They will see little difference and the propaganda they are still fed now will seem out of place. By then if the mainland has improved social liberties, then the civil war issue would be resolved naturally.

The key is for PRC to finish its journey of development and progress of which it started in the 1970s and is only around half complete. Even at this less than half way mark, China is at its current form. As the journey completes, there would be far less requirement for the previous level of authoritarianism. Again the cycle means when those good rules are lifted slowly, people decline and society decays and the cycle continues to downfall. Good times create bad people, bad people create bad times, bad times create good people. In most cases when the people are naturally capable of even creating good times.

To use simple and overall quantitatively derived visual (as comprehensive, impartial, and accurate as possible by the American Ray Dalio). This is currently where nations now stand.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/big-cycles-over-last-500-years-ray-dalio

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Just to zoom out in perspective.
 
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It's time to dance. Good they start to arrive. They should fly over Islamabad before reaching their base. In fact fly over Indian embassy that would be fun

Na dude, flying over indian embassy would be too Childish.
 
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First of all I never said that J10cs are not coming i only said it will be confirmed once we get some leaked proof or lets say some leaked tender notices, as was the case with VT4 or SH15 or HQ-9, in the past as with the case with big ticket acuasitions like new bathes of vipers and so on. So now we have proof so congrats a very nice capability enhancement for PAF!!
May Allah put fear into the hearts of our enemies through this jet!!!!
On a lighter note nowhere in the world it happens that a whole community starts jumping up and down and behaving like hooligans just because SR said so about a stretegic aquisition!!!

SR is your interior minister. SR also repeated himself twice. ISPR reply was also in lines of what SR said. Senator Aon Abbas also confirmed the same news atleast 1 week ago.

Ab isky baad b agar community sceptical rahy to community ko littar marny chaahye.
 
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