PA TANKS comparison with contempory tanks

[Dazzler]

Exactly and welded turret is far different with 30-50% greater armour rating and much more composites.
Yes originally the first batch of 310 t-90s were supposed to be cast turret,but later changed at IA request.All IA t-90 have welded turrets.The first batch of 310 were direct export version of T-90A.But next batch of 347 and subsequent local manufacture were further modified and local versions use kanchan armour.
Thus when u see variants of t-90 u will see t-90s basic export version is seperate than t-90s bhisma of IA.

If all your posts were in context of subcontinent battle,bringing up t-72BM was meaningless as IA doesn't use it.You were taking a sneak potshot at t-90 and thought it would go unnoticed.

IF IA would be using it instead of trashy Ajeyas M1 as the CURRENT mainstay tank, they would be in a better shape today.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

IF IA would be using it instead of trashy Ajeyas M1 as the CURRENT mainstay tank, they would be in a better shape today.

We have AROUND 800-1000 t-90 and u think ajeya is our mainstay?Lol.
Ajeya is for numerical superiority over PA armour corps and to deal with al zarars and any older types save t-80ud and al khalid.
T-90 and arjun are our frontline tanks to deal with t-80 and al khalid.

 

[Dazzler]

We have AROUND 800-1000 t-90 and u think ajeya is our mainstay?Lol.
Ajeya is for numerical superiority over PA armour corps and to deal with al zarars and any older types save t-80ud and al khalid.
T-90 and arjun are our frontline tanks to deal with t-80 and al khalid.

prove you claim of 1000 T-90s plz,

Arjun entered IA servce? Yuppy

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

prove you claim of 1000 T-90s plz,

Arjun entered IA servce? Yuppy

310 we got from first batch, around 330 came in mostly knocked down kits assembled in india.
We began local manufacture in 2009 ,from then continuing at about 50 tanks a year avg after initial tussle with russia for TOT was resolved.
Most internet sources give numbers around 900.Since numbers are gradually building up its nearing 1000.

As for arjun u seem to be completely ignorant of current situation.Arjun entered operational service waay back in 2009.2 armoured regiments of around 120 tanks are operational with western command.Infrastructure ahs been modified and special railway wagons now available.


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Here indian army arjuns in various IA exercises like sudarshan shakti,shoorveer etc.


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Arjun tanks in assembly line.


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Railway wagon for transporting arjun.

Do your research before mouthing off about IA tank force,arjun has been operational for 4 yrs now ..

 

[Dazzler]

310 we got from first batch, around 347 came in mostly knocked down kits assembled in india.
We began local manufacture in 2009 ,from then continuing at about 50 tanks a year avg after initial tussle with russia for TOT was resolved.
Most internet sources give numbers around 900.Since numbers are gradually building up its nearing 1000.

As for arjun u seem to be completely ignorant of current situation.Arjun entered operational service waay back in 2009.2 armoured regiments of around 120 tanks are operational with western command.Infrastructure ahs been modified and special railway wagons now available.


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Here indian army arjuns in various IA exercises like sudarshan shakti,shoorveer etc.


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Arjun tanks in assembly line.


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Railway wagon for transporting arjun.

Do your research before mouthing off about IA tank force,arjun has been operational for 4 yrs now ..

not interested in your fantasy numerical data, provide link, source to back this up or it never happened. Simple

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

not interested in your fantasy numerical data, provide link, source to back this up or it never happened. Simple

''T-90 Bhishma Main Battle Tank

A total of 800 T-90 tanks are present in service with Indian Army. 1000 more to be produced by Indian under license from Russia by 2020.
This from D.F.I's official page dated late 2012.
Wikipedia number is 907.
Ajay shuklas blog states around 150 locally built in around end 2011.And we recieved 310 first batch directly and next 330 in knocked down kits mostly for assembly.Latest batch of 347 being locally built now.
So most sources indicate a number between 800-1000 as i initially stated.

 

[Dazzler]

''T-90 Bhishma Main Battle Tank

A total of 800 T-90 tanks are present in service with Indian Army. 1000 more to be produced by Indian under license from Russia by 2020.
This from D.F.I's official page dated late 2012.
Wikipedia number is 907.
Ajay shuklas blog states around 150 locally built in around end 2011.And we recieved 310 first batch directly and next 347 in knocked down kits mostly for assembly.
So most sources indicate a number between 800-1000 as i initially stated.

you have between 1800-2000 Ajeyas in service last i checked i called it mainstay for a reason

800 is NOT 1000, definition of mainstay means most numerous thing/ product in inventory
By all criteria, its Ajeya that is IAs mainstay. We are in 2013 not 2020 are we?

Talk in 2020 when T-90s/M/MS becomes the mainstay

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

you have between 1800-2000 Ajeyas in service last i checked i called it mainstay for a reason

800 is NOT 1000, definition of mainstay means most numerous thing/ product in inventory
By all criteria, its Ajeya that is IAs mainstay. We are in 2013 not 2020 are we?

Talk in 2020 when T-90s/M/MS becomes the mainstay

Oh plz we don't have 1800-2000 ajeyas.We have only at max 950 odd upgraded ajeyas.
The rest are t-72m's without combat improved ajeya upgrade with tender was going on some time back.No update on current status of how many more have been upgraded.

T-90 is by far our frontline tank with arjun.T-72 and ajeya makes up the numbers that allow us to outnumber PA tank corps.As for 800 not being 1000,if u scroll back u will see that i said estimated 800-1000 in my first post itself on numbers.Also bear in mind that that was from late 2012,more tanks have been produced since then.

 

[Dazzler]

Oh plz we don't have 1800-2000 ajeyas.We have only at max 950 odd upgraded ajeyas.
The rest are t-72m's without combat improved ajeya upgrade with tender was going on some time back.No update on current status of how many more have been upgraded.

T-90 is by far our frontline tank with arjun.T-72 and ajeya makes up the numbers that allow us to outnumber PA tank corps.As for 800 not being 1000,if u scroll back u will see that i said estimated 800-1000 in my first post itself on numbers.Also bear in mind that that was from late 2012,more tanks have been produced since then.

hmmm lets see..

Now the economy is on an upswing and the Army has hence been allocated funds to pursue this critical modernization. The tank upgrade will proceed in stages. The upgradation has begun by bringing 250 tanks to the DRDO's (Defence Research & Development Organisation) 'Combat Improved' Ajeya standard. (The T-72M1 has been renamed 'Ajeya' in India).

Defence spokesman Col S D Goswami said: "At present the main stay in terms of the number of India's armoured regiments is the T-72 tanks followed by T-55 tanks. The T-90 and Arjun provide the cutting edge. However, by the end of the 11th plan, all T-55 tanks will be replaced by T-90 tanks.

The original Russian engine in T-72 tanks had performed well in all climatic conditions.

Upgradation of T-72 tanks begins in Jaisalmer - Times Of India

Nope you dont have 1800, correct, its 1700

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

hmmm lets see..




Upgradation of T-72 tanks begins in Jaisalmer - Times Of India

In terms of numbers alone of course t-72 is our standard tank.But that doesn't mean its our frontline tank -those are t-90 and arjuns.

Our 800+ t-90 and 120 arjuns equal of PA tank corps 'mainstay' as u say-600 khalids and 320 t-80uds.Of course our numbers will grow faster .with both a thousand more t-90 and hundred plus arjun mk2 in order.
As for rest of it our 950 odd ajeyas can take on and have numerical advantage on the 275 odd type-85 and 400 odd al zarrars of PA.
The rest of our 1000 odd t-72s will have generational advantage over the numerous obsolete PA type-59 and type-69s,which are basically modified t-54/55s with 100 mm gun or 105 mm gun fitted.IA has retired t-55.

 

[Dazzler]

In terms of numbers alone of course t-72 is our standard tank.But that doesn't mean its our frontline tank -those are t-90 and arjuns.

Our 800+ t-90 and 120 arjuns equal of PA tank corps 'mainstay' as u say-600 khalids and 320 t-80uds.Of course our numbers will grow faster .with both a thousand more t-90 and hundred plus arjun mk2 in order.
As for rest of it our 950 odd ajeyas can take on and have numerical advantage on the 275 odd type-85 and 400 odd al zarrars of PA.
The rest of our 1000 odd t-72s will have generational advantage over the numerous obsolete PA type-59 and type-69s,which are basically modified t-54/55s with 100 mm gun or 105 mm gun fitted.IA has retired t-55.

you are confusing two different words.

Mainstay means most numerous whereas Frontline means top of the line or technologically most advanced

I asked about mainstay not frontline.

And since you intend rhetoric so hear this, your tanks may be equal BUT your ammunition is NOT

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

you are confusing two different words.

Mainstay means most numerous whereas Frontline means top of the line or technologically most advanced

I asked about mainstay not frontline.

If ur talking about numbers alone PA mainstay is type 59/69 variants with over 1000 in service and reserve.It is frontline tanks that matter.These tanks are near useless except infantry support role.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

you are confusing two different words.

And since you intend rhetoric so hear this, your tanks may be equal BUT your ammunition is NOT

In rhetoric,As for ammo btw u still haven't shown me either naiza 2 that is widely operational.
Answered on how u got 650 mm penetration for type-IIm or given any evidence that this latest chinese round is used by PA.
And even if it was,T-90 survived better ukrainian ammo in trails even without ERA,so u still can't penetrate it frontally.

As for armour being EQUAL,obviously as proven by the diagrams ur armour,ERA coverage and turret design are not equal of t-90.

 

[Dazzler]

If ur talking about numbers alone PA mainstay is type 59/69 variants with over 1000 in service and reserve.It is frontline tanks that matter.These tanks are near useless except infantry support role.

you dont give up on your nonsense do you?

Atleast google something instead of unleashing crap

The least PA uses is Type-59M2,

HIT Type 59MII

Notes: HIT (Heavy Industries Taxila) is the primary agency in Pakistan for the building, modification, and upgrading heavy military vehicles. One of their first tank projects, begun in 1979, was to being the Type 59 first to a like-new configuration, then to upgrade it. Most of this program resulted in the Type 59s being upgraded to the Al-Zarrar; the remainder were upgraded to a configuration called the Type 59MII.

The Type 59MII is based on the Chinese Type 59-II modification, but is not quite the same. For example, the Type 59MII has a more comprehensive night vision suite, and does not normally mount the searchlight of the Chinese tank. Fire control is a bit better, including a laser rangefinder and a ballistic computer. The commander has access to the gunner’s sights and has override controls for the main gun. Overall armor is a bit heavier and more advanced than a Type 59-II; the Type 59MII has side skirts, and there are lugs for ERA on the turret front, turret sides, hull front, and hull sides, as well as the forward third of the turret roof. Floor armor is also increased. The engine is the same as the Type 59-II, as is the coaxial machinegun, but the commander’s machinegun is an NSVT that can be aimed and fired from under armor. The Type 59IIM has an automatic fire and explosion suppression system, and the transmission is semi-automatic. The Type 59 also has an APU for silent watch. Four smoke grenade launchers are mounted on each side of the turret.

Al-Zarrar

HIT Al-Zarrar

Notes: The Pakistanis have long been users of the Chinese Type 59 tank; they also knew for quite a while that their Type 59s were not only obsolete, they were not keeping up with Indian tanks; there were, however, too many of them to simply scrap them. In 1990, the Pakistanis got together with a few foreign armament firms to upgrade their Type 59s to be able to be able to face more modern designs and at least have a chance to come out on the winning end of a fight. It would essentially give the Pakistanis a modern tank at a fraction of the cost (though the upgrade program ended up costing more real-life money than the Pakistanis thought it would). The development program started in 1990, but the sheer number of modifications (54 of them), coupled with a few budgetary problems and false starts at acquiring outright replacements for the Type 59 meant that the first upgraded Type 59, called the Al-Zarrar (Striker) was not fielded until early 2004. Some 800 of Pakistan’s Type 59s have been updated to the Al-Zarrar standard, and the Pakistanis also sell the Al-Zarrar upgrade as a kit for countries using the Type 59, T-54, or T-55. In addition to Pakistan, the Bangladeshis use the Al-Zarrar, having begun the upgrade of their Type 59s in 2008.

Virtually every area of the Type 59 is upgraded, enough so that the Al-Zarrar is essentially a new tank in an old tank’s skin. Improvements have been made to the key areas of protection, firepower, fire control, suspension, and mobility. One of the biggest upgrades is the main gun; the 100mm D-10T of the Type 59 has been replaced by a Pakistani version of the 2A46 and its autoloader. Most of the ammunition used in this gun is Pakistani-designed, but mirrors the ammunition used by the 2A46. The main gun is coupled with a modern fire control system built in Pakistan with the assistance of Krauss-Maffei of Germany. The main gun is now fully stabilized, with thermal imaging for the gunner that is accessible to the commander. The main gun also has a laser rangefinder, a ballistic computer, and a monitor to help the gunner search for targets and give him information about targets and the state of the main gun and its ranging components. The gunner’s hatch has vision blocks around it that give 180-degree vision (front, rear, and right side). The commander has, in addition to thermal imager access, his own IR vision and an image intensifier. The driver, on the front right side, has vision blocks that allow frontal vision and vision to both sides; one of these vision blocks can be removed and replaced by an IR vision block. The commander has an NSVT machinegun mounted on his cupola; this machinegun can be aimed and fired from under armor.

The Al-Zarrar uses a Pakistani-built version of a Chinese engine, a diesel engine giving 730 horsepower and also having a smaller size than the Type 59s engine. The transmission was also upgraded for the new engine and is semi-automatic. The suspension is improved with wider tracks, improved roadwheels and drive sprockets, and better shock absorption through a modified torsion bar system. Though the Al-Zarrar retains the ability to mount reserve tanks at the rear, in practice they are considered a combat hazard and are normally either not carried or jettisoned before battle.

The Al-Zarrar was originally to use a large amount of appliqué armor, but this was replaced in development with a modular armor suite, including composite armor on the glacis and turret front and spaced armor on the hull and turret sides. The floor armor has been dramatically increased as well. Lugs for ERA are found on the glacis, hull sides, turret front, turret sides, and the forward part of the turret roof. A Pakistani-designed laser threat warning system is also fitted; this lets the crew know if they are being targeted by laser designators and automatically fires smoke grenades to block the laser designation beam; 5 smoke grenade launchers are found on each side of the turret. Both the ammo bins and the crew compartments have automatic explosion and fire suppression systems.

A Step Further: The Type 85-IIIM
The Type 85-IIIM was designed from the outset for export to Pakistan. However, the Chinese Army is reportedly also using the Type 85-IIIM, and the Pakistanis rejected it after trials in the Pakistani deserts, where the new Chinese engine kept producing thick black exhaust that was highly visible from a long way off. The Chinese fixed the engine problem and improved several other areas of the Type 85-IIIM, but by that time, more advanced tanks were available from China, and they decided to forego the Type 85-IIIM. The Type 85-IIIM was therefore designed largely to Pakistani specifications; the Pakistanis never actually built the Type 85-IIIM indigenously, but most of their Type 85-IIAPs were rebuilt to Type 85-IIIM standards (without the heavily-smoking engine and with the subsequent Chinese upgrades). The Chinese model is called the Type 96 (though it was in service by 1993).
The aforementioned engine is a supercharged V-12 diesel developing 1000 horsepower, and the exhaust problem has been solved (though a smoke screen can be laid by injecting diesel fuel into its exhaust). The complete powerpack (engine, transmission, and part of the suspension) can be removed in one piece, simplifying removal and replacement. The transmission is unusual; the driver can decide to drive the Type 85-IIIM in manual, semi-automatic, or fully automatic modes.
Armor protection of the Type 85-IIIM has been further upgraded, and the turret front and side armor are modular and can be upgraded at a later date if desired. Lugs for ERA are also located on the glacis, turret front and part of the turret roof, and on the side skirts. The commander and the gunner both have fully stabilized gun sights, and the commander can fire (but not reload) his machinegun from under armor. The commander has a magnified day/night sight, and main stabilization has been improved along with the ballistic computer. The NBC system is still a collective system, with no overpressure system, and there is an external NBC agent detector which sounds a loud alarm inside the tank when an agent is detected and automatically turns on the NBC system. Radios have been upgraded; one short range and one medium-range radio of modern construction are standard. GPS is listed as an option, but rumored to be fitted to both the Type 85-IIIM and Type 96.

Kharkiv Morozov T-80UD
Notes: The Ukrainians have long thought the T-80 was an excellent tank, combining speed, firepower, and armor protection in a very fast-moving package. (The T-80 was Morozov’s idea, anyway.) However, Kharkiv Morozov thought that while, in its time, the T-80’s gas turbine was a good idea – it gave the T-80 excellent speed and mobility – they also knew that the gas turbine gobbled up prodigious amounts of fuel. While the T-80s gas turbine was much better than earlier Russian gas turbines, it was still a little unreliable and maintenance-heavy.
Therefore, when the Ukrainians were modernizing their T-80Us, the first thing they changed was the powerpack. The engine was replaced with a 6TD-1 1000-horsepower turbocharged multifuel engine (and intended it to run primarily from diesel). The new engine also has other advantages – it has much more reliability, both in general and especially in hot, dry, dusty conditions. A new automatic transmission was installed to match the engine, and the driver’s controls are a simple steering T-bar and conventional gas and brake pedal. The suspension is an improved version of that of the T-80U, giving the T-80UD a smoother ride both on the road and cross country. Below the front hull is a hanging rubber mat that also helps keep down dust. The fuel tanks are self-sealing and have automatic explosion and fire dampening and suppression systems, as does the engine compartment itself. The Ukrainians also added a small gas turbine APU with a power output of 8kW.
Of course, the Ukrainians did not stop with a mobility upgrade. The main gun was replaced with a 125mm KBA-3, which fires all 125mm rounds as well as the laser-guided 9K119M (AT-11 Sniper-B) ATGM. The KBA requires less maintenance, and what maintenance is done is easier to accomplish. The barrel of the KBA-3 can be changed without removing the entire gun, and the KBA-3 and its improved autoloader are more reliable than the 2A46M. Earlier versions of the T-80UD, did in fact use the 2A46M gun. The KBA-3s autoloader carries 28 rounds; six rounds are carried on each side of the driver in armored bins, and five more rounds are carried in an armored bin in the turret. The fire control system is virtually identical to that of the T-64BM (though a bit more advanced than the T-64BM, this is not quantifiable in game terms). As with other modern Ukrainian missile-firing tanks, the T-80UD has a separate laser designator for use with its ATGMs. The autoloader carousel and the ammunition stowage bins have armored exteriors.
The commander’s machinegun is housed in an integrated cupola system that allows the KT-12.7 to be aimed and fired from inside the turret using its own auxiliary sights and laser rangefinder, and is stabilized in the vertical plane. The turret’s traverse mechanism, however, is limited to 75 ° left or right in of itself, though of course 360 °-rotation is possible with the help of the turret. The commander’s machinegun can be elevated to -5 °/+70 °. (It should be noted that the commander’s ballistic computer and laser rangefinder functions only to an elevation of +20 degrees; beyond that, a conventional coincidence rangefinder is used.) The commander has override controls for the main gun and coaxial machinegun. The commander’s machinegun may also be an NSVT at customer request; likewise, the coaxial machinegun may be a PKT.
Compared to other former Soviet-based designs, the interior of the T-80UD is almost roomy. Inside the T-80UD’s fighting compartment are racks for AK-type weapons, pistols, and hand grenades for each crewmember, in addition to a signal flare pistol and several of three colors of flares. The crew is able to fit part of the personal gear inside, or extra machinegun ammunition boxes or a couple of main gun rounds can be put inside. In addition, the T-80UD has a decent-sized bustle rack and the turret and hull have several equipment boxes.
Extra protection is provided by an upgrade to the frontal composite armor as well as appliqué armor, both in the form of standard add-on armor plates and stand-off armor plates. Like most other armored vehicles, the T-80UD can lay a thick, oily smoke screen by injecting diesel fuel into its exhaust. The T-80UD has a cluster of four smoke grenade launchers on either side of its turret. Under armor, above the engine compartment, is a layer of insulation that helps dampen the IR signature of the engine (-3 to hit with IR-guided weapons and -2 to detect the T-80UD with IR viewers or thermal imagers). Lugs for ERA (usually the Ukrainian Nozh or Nozh-2, but customers may specify lugs for other types of ERA if desired) are found on the glacis, turret front, turret sides, and the forward third of the hull sides.

Pakistani T-80UDs
In the early 1990s, Ukraine negotiated with Pakistan to fill Pakistan’s needs for newer main battle tanks; the Pakistanis chose the T-80UD, deciding to procure 320 of them. These T-80UDs were to have all been delivered throughout 1997. After the first 15 T-80UDs were delivered to Pakistan, the Ukrainians were suddenly forced to suspend shipments.
The problem was the Russians. Perhaps the biggest customer for Russian military equipment is the Indians, and the Indians weren’t happy that the Pakistanis were getting tanks with main guns and fire control equipment almost as good as that on their new T-90Ss. At the time, the Ukrainians were fitting 2A46M main guns and Russian-built fire control equipment, as well as some other turret equipment that was Russian designed but built under license in Ukraine; the ERA that Ukraine was using at the time was also the Russian Kontakt series. The Russians refused to sell the Ukrainians any more tank components, and rescinded the licenses they had issued.
The Ukrainians, however, were already well on their way to having a defense industry independent of Russia, and the boycott merely gave Kharkiv Morozov extra impetus to bring those components to fruit even faster. The Ukrainians kept the Pakistanis happy by delivering 20 more T-80UDs that had been drawn from an unfulfilled earlier export order, and between 1997 and 2002, the Ukrainians delivered 285 more T-80UDs.
Sort of.
The original T-80UDs delivered to the Pakistanis were in fact standard T-80UDs. The remaining T-80UDs, however, were not standard; the Ukrainians used the hulls and hull components of the T-80UD, but the turrets of these vehicles were actually the same as those installed on the T-84. In addition, the ERA lugs were modular and could take both Kontakt-series and Nozh-series ERA, as well as Pakistani-designed ERA modules. The Pakistanis also use PKTs and NSVTs on their T-80UDs of both types. It is rumored, but not confirmed, that some of the later shipments included the Varta system. So the Pakistanis ended up with tanks which were almost the equal of the T-84, and could stand up on the battlefield to the Indians’ T-90Ss. The Pakistanis were happy with this.

now come down to numbers,

AK = between 350-400

AZ = 640-720

T-80ud= 320

T-85III= 310-350

Type-69IIMP= 250-350

Type-59M2= 700-800

approximately 2800 mbts out of which modern ones are 1750 + (all capable of firing DU rounds)

In rhetoric,As for ammo btw u still haven't shown me either naiza 2 that is widely operational.
Answered on how u got 650 mm penetration for type-IIm or given any evidence that this latest chinese round is used by PA.
And even if it was,T-90 survived better ukrainian ammo in trails even without ERA,so u still can't penetrate it frontally.

As for armour being EQUAL,obviously as proven by the diagrams ur armour,ERA coverage and turret design are not equal of t-90.

WHERE IS THE MIGHTY AMK-340 UPGRADED????

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

you dont give up on your nonsense do you?

Atleast google something instead of unleashing crap

The least PA uses is Type-59M2,




Al-Zarrar









now come down to numbers,

AK = between 350-400

AZ = 640-720

T-80ud= 320

T-85III= 310-350

Type-69IIMP= 250-350

Type-59M2= 700-800

approximately 2800 mbts out of which modern ones are 1750 + are modern (all capable of firing DU rounds)



WHERE IS THE MIGHTY AMK-340 UPGRADED????

Read my post ..what do you think type-59 'variants' mean?What u think type-59m2 is a seperate tank or type 59 variant as i said.
On type-59 of PA.
''80 Type 59 tanks ordered in 1964 from the PRC and delivered between 1965 and 1966. 210 Type 59 tanks ordered in 1968 from the PRC and delivered between 1970 and 1972. 159 Type 59 tanks ordered in 1973 from the PRC and delivered in 1974. 852 Type 59 tanks ordered in 1975 from the PRC and delivered between 1978 and 1988. Around 1,300 Type 59s were in service in 1990, 1,200 in 1995 and 2000, 1,100 in 2002, 1,000 Type 59s and 80 Al-Zarrars (Type 59 upgrade) in 2005, 600 Type 59s and 300 Al-Zarrars in 2008, 1100 Type 59s and 400 Al-Zarrars in 2010. 600 Type 59s and 600 Al Zarrar's in 2012. ''

All ur type-59 and type-69 are mostly armed with 105 mm guns,obsolete armour totally and useless in modern tank to tank combat except infantry fire support.

So khalid 350-400 and t-80ud 320?Thats around 700 truly modern tanks against 800 plus t-90s and 120 odd arjuns.
And 300+ type-85III and 700 odd zarrars for 1000 odd second tier tanks to face off against our similar numbers of t-72 ajeyas.
That still leaves over a 1000 t-72s against which u have totally obsolete type59/69 variants.

Also WHERE IS THE MIGHTY NAIZA 2 upgraded thats fully operational throughout PA,also where is this latest chinese round that PA uses.Ur just making wishes in the air.And where will u hide the flaws of ur tanks turrets?