Osama Bin Laden 'SHAHEED'? PM Imran Khan Speech in National Assembly

[AZ1]

mery bhai he is responsible for fate of 220million people . he is leader of 6th largest population on earth .

Do bother go outside on street ask what 220million thinks about osama bin ladin or even taliban and you will have your answer from majority.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

i think zardari was better at least he was hiding in president house 5 years and never talk BS .this loose mouth PM is damaging pakistan more then zardari .

Its hyperbole like these i never get. Can you give any factual evidence of when IK statement has caused irreplaceable damage to Pakistan? and kindly not what India media publishes or what certain American papers or analyst who nowadays are even speaking as India's propagandist viz a vi Indo-China conflict say.

I tell you what the most damaging thing was for Pakistan. It was Musharraf signing NRO and opening floodgates for these corrupt families to once again rule Pakistan and destroy what little was left.

 

[Falcon26]

yes he was worse as per internally but he did not messed up pakistan in-front of world like imran khan did in recent years .i have just simple issue IK must write and then read it he is now PM of pakistan not any rag tag leader like before . his words matter .he is lucky we are living in trump era of world were words became useless . 10 years ao or 20 years ago these dangerous words can cause so much of harm country .

He was busy sabotaging Pakistan and causing internal breakdown through his memo-gate and Husain Haqqani.

 

[T-123456]

For those who don't want to go through the whole speech and don't understand Urdu, here's a rough translation (from 44 minutes on):

"The amount of humiliation Pakistan has had to endure by becoming a partner of the US in the US war on terror is unprecedented. It didn't matter what Pakistan did, we were blamed and humiliated for US failures in Afghanistan.

There are two events that were shameful for Pakistan, that we are ashamed of. The first is that the US came into Pakistan and killed Osama Bin Laden in Abottabad ... martyred him. What happened after that? The entire world abused us .. called us evil. Our own ally intruded into Pakistan and killed someone and didn't inform us despite the fact that we have lost 70,000 Pakistanis in their war on terror.

The second thing to be ashamed of, the drone attacks in Pakistan ..."

For those trying to understand Imran Khan on this, keep in mind his consistent and vociferous opposition to Pakistan becoming part of the US WoT, deploying Pakistani forces in FATA and the drone attacks, since the US invasion of Afghanistan.

IK has always spoken in favor of dialog and negotiations, even in FATA, to address the issues there. In his view, FATA and Swat would not have become the hotbeds of terrorism that they did had it not been for Pakistan joining the US War on Terror. Whether you agree or disagree with that position, it is one that he strongly believes in.

IK isn't in support of terrorism, he just has a different point of view on how things should have been handled in Pakistan and Afghanistan post 9/11 attacks.

He should have said it in a different way.
Lets see how serious the consequences will be.

 

[JamD]

I dont usually post on political threads but I am morally forced to say something. What PM IK has said is utterly indefensible and no amount of mental gymnastics (as seen on this thread) can change that fact. Imran Khan should issue an apology/clarification to limit the damage due to his garbage fire of a statement.

 

[truthfollower]

Do bother go outside on street ask what 220million thinks about osama bin ladin or even taliban and you will have your answer from majority.

no wonder we are in grey list soon will be in black list after PM Imran Khan calling terrorist a shaheed

 

[Musings]

Obviously not, but have you seen Indian Army Generals calling their hindu soldiers shaheed? Many times. The word these days is now used way too interchangeably. I believe it is a slip of tongue. Imran Khan's policy with Taliban is being neutral and co-existence. Because if USA can't defeat Taliban, no one can. And no way IK is a Bin Laden supporter. He is pro-peace and doesn't want to get involved in the fighting game.
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The only people making this an issue is opposition (mostly corrupts), PTM (anti-Pakistan), Hussain Haqqani (snake), and some delusional liberals and opposition supporters. So we know who they are and where their interest lies.

Problem we have in Pakistan is too much spare time. Too much spare time to analyse so closely that they forget the overall picture. I’m no IK but for gods sake why not attemp to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it was a slip of the tongue?
Have they forgotten the shit they have in the past elected? Can you see Zardari or Sharif pulling up trees and conquering the universe.
Rome wasn’t built in a day and Pakistan and IK needs time and patience.

 

[Imran Khan]

Its hyperbole like these i never get. Can you give any factual evidence of when IK statement has caused irreplaceable damage to Pakistan? and kindly not what India media publishes or what certain American papers or analyst who nowadays are even speaking as India's propagandist viz a vi Indo-China conflict say.

I tell you what the most damaging thing was for Pakistan. It was Musharraf signing NRO and opening floodgates for these corrupt families to once again rule Pakistan and destroy what little was left.

i am member of other international defense forum people are trolling paksitan as terrorist country some abusing others saying bad to pakistan . at this time after 12 hours PTI /gop did nto issue any statement this osama shaheed will be use against us on many international forums by our enemies . dont blame british if they make next law for paksitanis . from USA to australia media qouting it and then we pakistanis say why world sideline us on airport why our passport is worse why no one give us visa .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/25/osama-bin-laden-martyred-says-imran-khan/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Osama-bin-Laden-martyred-special-forces.html

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/p...calls-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-133007854.html

https://thediplomat.com/2020/06/pakistans-prime-minister-dubs-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-what-now/

https://www.business-standard.com/a...-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-120062502067_1.html

https://www.victorharbortimes.com.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=13165

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=7637

https://www.standard.net.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=10259

 

[Falcon26]

I dont usually post on political threads but I am morally forced to say something. What PM IK has said is utterly indefensible and no amount of mental gymnastics (as seen on this thread) can change that fact. Imran Khan should issue an apology/clarification to limit the damage due to his garbage fire of a statement.

The thing that really gets me is that they don’t even see the need to issue a clarification. How thick in the head does one need to be in order to ignore such a disaster? Just to give you a context, Imran Khan’s statement is today one of the biggest stories on international media.

 

[T-123456]

muslim men are forbidden .... good joke

Im guessing you dont know much about muslim men?

 

[Awan68]

yes yes al qaida was very peaceful and was not trying to hijack Pakistani nukes for use against infidels

Wake up mate, this is not a shitty bond movie.

 

[truthfollower]

The thing that really gets me is that they don’t even see the need to issue a clarification. How thick in the head does one need to be in order to ignore such a disaster? Just to give you a context, Imran Khan’s statement is today one of the biggest stories on international media.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

i am member of other international defense forum people are trolling paksitan as terrorist country some abusing others saying bad to pakistan . at this time after 12 hours PTI /gop did nto issue any statement this osama shaheed will be use against us on many international forums by our enemies . dont blame british if they make next law for paksitanis . from USA to australia media qouting it and then we pakistanis say why world sideline us on airport why our passport is worse why no one give us visa .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/25/osama-bin-laden-martyred-says-imran-khan/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Osama-bin-Laden-martyred-special-forces.html

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/p...calls-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-133007854.html

https://thediplomat.com/2020/06/pakistans-prime-minister-dubs-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-what-now/

https://www.business-standard.com/a...-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-120062502067_1.html

https://www.victorharbortimes.com.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=13165

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=7637

https://www.standard.net.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=10259

It doesn't matter so much what you say but how big is your gun and how you can hurt your enemies.

US will not sabotage relations with Pakistan now that China had humiliated India and they need to get out of Afghanistan with some face-saving.

However the next day they get out of Afghanistan, expect all forces (short of war) mustered against Pakistan to depress us and keep us from taking advantage of our geopolitical situation.

I know this is the reason that the US is being kept in Afghanistan, both Pakistan and Taliban are on the same page on this.

It will be kore humiliating for US than Vietnam to have Taliban government in Kabul.

It is time Pakistan change the narrative and our media, esp, needs to start questioning the narrative of the West.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

i am member of other international defense forum people are trolling paksitan as terrorist country some abusing others saying bad to pakistan . at this time after 12 hours PTI /gop did nto issue any statement this osama shaheed will be use against us on many international forums by our enemies . dont blame british if they make next law for paksitanis . from USA to australia media qouting it and then we pakistanis say why world sideline us on airport why our passport is worse why no one give us visa .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/25/osama-bin-laden-martyred-says-imran-khan/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Osama-bin-Laden-martyred-special-forces.html

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/p...calls-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-133007854.html

https://thediplomat.com/2020/06/pakistans-prime-minister-dubs-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-what-now/

https://www.business-standard.com/a...-osama-bin-laden-a-martyr-120062502067_1.html

https://www.victorharbortimes.com.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=13165

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=7637

https://www.standard.net.au/story/6807431/pakistan-pm-says-us-martyred-bin-laden/?cs=10259

So were these countries or papers calling Pakistan peace heaven before? Pakistan being called a terrorist supporting country or heaven isn't a new label coming from these countries, people or papers. Pardon my language but max today's statement whether intentional or not does is allows a self jerk for these people who can now be like "aha see". Rest it doesn't changes anything much on ground.
Btw i can see alot of australian newspaper sites there, who have been called by Chinese recently as US's lapdogs. And UK, well we all know, where their Govt. and establishment usually stands and sides with.

 

[AZ1]

no wonder we are in grey list soon will be in black list after PM Imran Khan calling terrorist a shaheed

Why we were in grey list? We were in grey list in 2010 why?

I see grey list as blessing in disguise. No funding transfer without proof and records.