Old Baloch custom of drinking blood from skulls of their enemies

[RazPaK]

Ok here is Baloch from Punjab

Baluch are close to Sindhis and Saraikis in my opinion.

 

[Kabira]

Actually most Arabs cluster with each other very closely. We share the same paternal haplogroups and we always cluster in the same geographical regions. KSA is a huge country and depending on the region, ethnicity the results will be distinct.

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PCA maps are important to know which pop cluster with another in automosal ancestry. It has nothing to do with haplogroups. I think you are confusing something. KSA is country of just 25 million people, drop in a ocean compared to South Asia. Unless KSA people practice caste system, they should be pretty similar to each other but ofcourse different then other arabs in other countries like Palestine or Syria.

 

[al-Hasani]

I am sorry to disappoint you but I didnt really dig deep on our origin. the process of sublimation means we are now sons of the Indian sub continent.
I dont have much to say about it. elders tell me that our ancestors migrated over centuries from Syria to here and were mixed up with other ethnicity.
we are different from Pashtons the two dont share shame roots.

Aha. Thanks for that.

Ok, I just always thought that Baloch people and Pashtuns were close given the geographical proximity, somewhat similar cultures, appearances and both speaking somewhat similar languages too if I am not mistaken.

What did you mean with Arabian and Indian origin. I mean none of what is now Pakistan was Indian and from what I am aware of Indian itself is a recent invention in the sense that calling somebody Indian is like calling somebody European. When you call somebody European you for instance include Basques and Finns in the same bracket while they are vastly different. Or Portuguese and Estonians for instance.

PCA maps are important to know which pop cluster with another in automosal ancestry. It has nothing to do with haplogroups. I think you are confusing something. KSA is country of just 25 million people, drop in a ocean compared to South Asia. Unless KSA people practice caste system, they should be pretty similar to each other but ofcourse different then other arabs in other countries like Palestine or Syria.

All ME people cluster with each other overall compared to all other populations and are very similar overall. Especially the Arab populations of the ME proper. That Yemenis and Saudi Arabians cluster with each other including all other peoples of the Arabian Peninsula is not that strange. KSA is a huge country and a person from Jazan is different from a person in the Eastern province while a Hijazi differs from a Najdi and a person from the Northern Regions is different than a person from Southern Eastern Arabia (Eastern Province). It's due to history, geography etc. Lastly in terms of haplogroups etc. it also depends on ethnicity, region etc. Anyway DNA is not very big in the Arab world and does not interest many. The samples seem very small too. We are a bit off-topic too.

 

[Kabira]

Found better PCA map of arabs. As one can see if Arabs were similar genetically then they should form small circle in this map. Like Kurds and Iranis for exemple, despite little differences they are close enough to form circle around each other.

 

[waz]

If that enemy has eaten a cauldron full of Nihari....the eventuality in bold may end up causing your deaths too !

AJK has many mountains and fresh air galore. It doesn't matter what they eat, it won't effect us.

 

[Samandri]

Only Pakistanis feel proud of such practices. Irony is to us Sikhs Baluch are known as meek fellows who ride camels. British called them non martial and never recruited them in army as in case of war their chances of running away leaving weapons is high.

A baloch here is claiming that their mazari tribe taught lesson to sikh empire.
Mazari Baloch Tribe War With Sikh Empire
How much of it is correct from sikh point of view?

 

[jatt+gutts]

A baloch here is claiming that their mazari tribe taught lesson to sikh empire.
Mazari Baloch Tribe War With Sikh Empire
How much of it is correct from sikh point of view?

No such thing recorded by Sikh historians. Again it's fairy tale

 

[Kabira]

A baloch here is claiming that their mazari tribe taught lesson to sikh empire.
Mazari Baloch Tribe War With Sikh Empire
How much of it is correct from sikh point of view?

You are asking wrong person, ask someone like jaggu. Lol

 

[RazPaK]

No such thing recorded by Sikh historians. Again it's fairy tale

Just like the 12 sikhs that massacred 30 k pathans.

 

[Samandri]

You are asking wrong person, ask someone like jaggu. Lol

lol i asked him because he had sikh vs baloch heated arguement with @DESERT FIGHTER some time ago, both were measuring theirs that who has larger one.

 

[jatt+gutts]

Just like the 12 sikhs that massacred 30 k pathans.

Dude battle of saragrai Is well recorded and is considerd equalent to battle of Thermopylae by United Nations.

 

[dravidianhero]

Yes, and women were killed, oppressed, mistreated and looked down upon all over the world 1500 years ago. They were secondary citizens. Besides this only involved small communities of Hijaz (Pagans). Those practiced did not occur elsewhere. There are no historical reports of this practice elsewhere.

In pre-Islamic times women in the Arab world commanded whole tribes and even ruled kingdoms.

Happy to hear that from an Arab;here in india and Pakistan Muslims have spread the notion among themselves that Arabs used to kill their daughters and were blood thirsty (this blood thirsty part might have some truth to it given the fact Arabs were desert dwellers with meagre resources) before Muhammad and it was only after Muhammad that Arabs became civilised(now they changed that too.they are now saying Arabs are still uncivilised as they don't treat Muslims from India on par with Arab Muslims).

 

[Thorough Pro]

Probably they didn't leave anyone to record the history

No such thing recorded by Sikh historians. Again it's fairy tale

 

[dravidianhero]

I think a small number of Arab tribes may have migrated, that's how these stories spread and eventually more and
more people start claiming different origins. But over all Baluch people are Iranic people and have an ancient link with Kurds.

Modern Baluch are quite mixed, specially the ones from coastal areas which have a big African-Baluchi community.

I watched a show about baloch liberation movement on al Jazeera once and 3 baloch fighters they inter vied were dark .That was the first time I realised there were blacks even in the borders of Iran.Balochs may have Iran and Arab blood in them but they are as much south Asians as Punjabi are.(

 

[Samandri]

Happy to hear that from an Arab;here in india and Pakistan Muslims have spread the notion among themselves that Arabs used to kill their daughters and were blood thirsty (this blood thirsty part might have some truth to it given the fact Arabs were desert dwellers with meagre resources) before Muhammad and it was only after Muhammad that Arabs became civilised(now they changed that too.they are now saying Arabs are still uncivilised as they don't treat Muslims from India on par with Arab Muslims).

@al-Hasani is arab supremecist, he would obviously deny that. Arab themeselves have told us that there was jahiliya period. That being said, even pre-islamic arabs had many qualities and positive traits that are characteristics of desert and tribal period.

Dude battle of saragrai Is well recorded and is considerd equalent to battle of Thermopylae by United Nations.

Share the direct link of UNESCO , UN site and page where saraghari is mentioned.