No fighters for pakistan: Russia

[Falcon26]

This is the best thing that can happen to PAF. No need to go after unproven Russian hanger queens. Time to concentrate on quality rather than Russian junks which the indianss themselves are running away from.

 

[Syed Taha Wajahat]

I think its better to wait for some time. We can work on TAI-TFX and can buy J31 or J10

 

[airmarshal]

tch tch tch.... India such an insecure country! It shows its inferiority complex time and again.

 

[Skull and Bones]

These are just rumors that we dont have $$$ ... We dont compromise on our defence and budget is enough for safety..

So, what's keeping you off from servicing the IMF debt, isn't that the first priority?

 

[egodoc222]

Griffin have already advanced to NG few years ago. By the time JFT block III comes around (Block II is already behind schedule) who knows what Grippen would be fielding. JFT will always be JFT and Griffin will always be Griffin

And what is 'griffin'?

 

[MilSpec]

And what is 'griffin'?

this

 

[wiseone2]

PLA's J-10C may be able to surpass US and EU counterparts

The J-10C — the upgrade version of China's J-10 fighter, designed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group — may be able to catch up with the American F/A-18E/F Super Hornet and surpass most of its European counterparts.
China is still unable to fully compete against the United States, Russia and France in developing 4.5-generation fighters, but the advanced fighters are important for the People's Liberation Army Air Force and Navy Air Force to fill the gap before fifth-generation stealth fighters — such as the J-20 and J-31 — are ready for service.
Many of China's neighbors have equipped their military forces with 4.5-fighters since 2005 when the Republic of Korea Air Force received its first 60 F-15K Slam Eagle. Singapore began to receive F-15SG Strike Eagles in 2008, while Australia got its F/A-18E/F in 2009. India and Malaysia have also purchased the Russian-built Su-30MKI and Su-30MKM. Since 2012, Russia also deployed Su-30SM and Su-35s to the Chinese border.
China is around 15 years behind the United States and 12 years behind some European powers in the development of 4.5-fighters, the report said, adding this is the reason why a J-10C 4.5-generation fighter is needed for China to replace both the J-10A and J-10B in the future. Equipped with active phased array radar and avionic system similar to the J-20, the Sina Military Network stressed that the J-10C can be more powerful than the Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale.
China will also develop the J-15B based on its J-15 carrier-based fighter. The report said that both the J-10C and J-15B can be as powerful as the US F/A-18E/F Super Hornet. Both fighters are estimated to begin their service with the PLA Air Force and Navy Air Force by 2016. Meanwhile, most of China's fighters in 2020 will be 4.5-generation fighters, while the fifth generation fighters will begin their service with front line units as well.

http://www.asian-defence.net/2014/02/j-10c-may-be-able-to-surpass-us-and-eu.html


On topic:

Islamabad and Moscow are negotiating a deal on Su-35 and Su-37 jets, Shahab Qadir Khan, deputy director of export promotion services in the Pakistani Defense Export Promotion Organization, told Sputnik.

https://sputniknews.com/military/201609081045073021-pakistan-russia-negotiating-fightersu-jets/

Look at the source and the date in the link!!!

If j-10c is in same class as f/a-18 super hornet China will not be buying su-35s

 

[MilSpec]

Indians are getting happy on a statement by a CEO of a company that doesn't even make the fighter jet that Pakistan is interested in......... seriously these people get happy so easily as long as anyone says anything against Pakistan.

@Zarvan @notorious_eagle @Irfan Baloch @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @The Eagle @IceCold

Are you sure?

 

[cloud4000]

Pakistan should have seen it coming that it was not going to get top-notch military equipment from Russia. That it was played by Russia to put pressure on India to make a deal. Many here on PDF were fooled as well.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Are you sure?

View attachment 344118

Yes I am sure

Sukhoi's Parent company is United Aircraft Corporation

http://www.uacrussia.ru/en/corporation/company/

Also the person heading UAC is this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Ivanov

While the guy heading Rostec Corp is this guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Chemezov

This doesn't mean that Pakistan will get Su35s though, just that this thread has no substance to it.

 

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PM Modi with Russian President Vladimir Putin during joint press statements ceremony in Goa. (AFP Photo)
PANAJI : The CEO of Russia's ROSTEC Corp, Sergey Chemezov, has said that Moscow has not signed any contracts and has no plans for signing any military-related deals with Pakistan.

"We are not delivering any modern aircraft and any military aircraft to Pakistan. We have made deliveries of helicopters, but those are specialised in transport and that contract has been completed," said Chemezov.

"No contracts or plans for any other military-related equipment to be delivered to Pakistan," he added.

Commenting on Russia- Pakistan joint military exercises, Chemezov said the military exercises held earlier in September this year were directly connected with modernising counter terror operations in Pakistan.

He said that the joint military exercises was important so that the nation could be prepared for fight from organisations like the ISIS, which is a global threat and is involved in spreading terrorism.

"ISIS is a global terrorist organisation, it is something that is the global danger and doesn't just involve terrorists in the Middle East but also in Russia, terrorism in India as well as Pakistan," he said.

"Therefore, joint military exercises are important but it must be noted that (they) were not in any way targeted at India or at any other conflict in the region," he added.

Chemezov said that Russia's relationship with India has always remained very strong and fruitful.

India and Russia on Saturday signed 16 agreements and three announcements in a number of fields including infrastructure, defence, ship building, science and technology and railways.

The agreements were signed in the presence of Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the BRICS Summit in Goa.

In a joint statement with Putin, Prime Minister Modi said the agreements on manufacturing of Kamov-226T helicopters, construction of frigates, and acquisition and building of other defence platforms are in synergy with India's technology and security priorities.

But Planes come from another source...not from Russia.

 

[egodoc222]

But Planes come from another source...not from Russia.

May be, may be not. this thread is about Russia not selling fighters to Pakistan!!

 

[Imad.Khan]

May be, may be not. this thread is about Russia not selling fighters to Pakistan!!

The CEO of Russia's ROSTEC Corp, Sergey Chemezov, has said that Moscow has not signed any contracts and has no plans for signing any military-related deals with Pakistan.

"We are not delivering any modern aircraft and any military aircraft to Pakistan. We have made deliveries of helicopters, but those are specialised in transport and that contract has been completed," said Chemezov.

"No contracts or plans for any other military-related equipment to be delivered to Pakistan," he added.

Its not about Russia selling fighters to Pakistan, its ROSTEC not selling fighters to Pakistan, which is also not true, as they have sold 4 Mi-35s to Pakistan.

Please stop spreading your propaganda here

@waz @WAJsal @Oscar Please close this thread as its being used to spread Indian false propaganda

 

[war&peace]

Russia will sell everything we can pay for. Just wait for the fever to subside.

Indians are pathetic...He is not CEO any company that manufactures or designs any of Russia's A/C

 

[PakEye]

Pakistan should have seen it coming that it was not going to get top-notch military equipment from Russia. That it was played by Russia to put pressure on India to make a deal. Many here on PDF were fooled as well.

Fooled !!! PAF have RD-93 direct from Russia because Russia ignored indian pressure immagine if Russian refused to us for the RD-93 for JF-17 then what situation can be created??? I read some where thst RD-93 smoke problem is resolved.