Most of Pakistan isn't a part of the Indian sub-continent

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

We are seeing the birth of a new people, with a new and unique culture. Look at the rabab a pakhtoon instrument that's used all over pakistan and in mostly all pakistani music. Look at Peshawari chapal, even Pakistani women are starting to wear it, also the pakhtoon hats and men sadar (men chadar) these are some of the changes, influenced by the pakhtoon culture their are other that are influenced by the punjabis, sindhi and balochi.

Just recently, we began to see greater interest in Pukhto and new words borrowed from Pukhto entering Pakistani Urdu vocabulary. I think PTI success is a rejuvenation and spread of Pukhtoon culture to the rest of Pakistan.

In another generation, we will be completely unintelligible to Indians and begin to look completely North and West to our Irani, Turk cousins and our Chinese friends.

PTI should expediate the process by banning Indian movies, songs, and vulgar content from entering Pakistan, particularly in Karachi where we unfortunately have a class which idolizes this culture.

We need to focus on creating new media content which pushes forward positive values and strong nationalism, similar to what Turkey has done.

 

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Just recently, we began to see greater interest in Pukhto and new words borrowed from Pukhto entering Pakistani Urdu vocabulary. I think PTI success is a rejuvenation and spread of Pukhtoon culture to the rest of Pakistan.

In another generation, we will be completely unintelligible to Indians and begin to look completely North and West to our Irani, Turk cousins and our Chinese friends.

PTI should expediate the process by banning Indian movies, songs, and vulgar content from entering Pakistan, particularly in Karachi where we unfortunately have a class which idolizes this culture.

We need to focus on creating new media content which pushes forward positive values and strong nationalism, similar to what Turkey has done.

People from Karachi are messed up in so many ways. Imagine if Karachi had people who genuinely cared for Pakistan. MQM, PPP wouldn't have been elected. If Karachi in the last 30 years was ruled by a competent government. It would've been on the way to become the leading economic city in the world!! See the growth figures of Karachi!

Karachi added 10 million people in last 40 years! In less than one generation!

It was a thriving city within the '80s as well as the whole country as a whole!! Then after that, everything started turning dark!!

You know why that was? The Shehadat of Mard e Momin Habib Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq!

It is the Zalimun who are trying to destroy Islami Jumhurriyat e Pakistan

See this chart.

A Barakati Watan can only be achieved if the M'ashiyaat is based upon the Riyyasat e Medina as adopted by Rasul e Pak Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam.

Wazir e Azam Imran Khan Niazi will adopt this model in Islami Jamhurriyat e Pakistan. Inshallah

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Just recently, we began to see greater interest in Pukhto and new words borrowed from Pukhto entering Pakistani Urdu vocabulary. I think PTI success is a rejuvenation and spread of Pukhtoon culture to the rest of Pakistan.

In another generation, we will be completely unintelligible to Indians and begin to look completely North and West to our Irani, Turk cousins and our Chinese friends.

PTI should expediate the process by banning Indian movies, songs, and vulgar content from entering Pakistan, particularly in Karachi where we unfortunately have a class which idolizes this culture.

We need to focus on creating new media content which pushes forward positive values and strong nationalism, similar to what Turkey has done.

I've seen people use pakhto words too, I believe it's because of the shows and movies that came out in the past 3 years. You are absolutely right, Indian content needs to be blocked, like how they block our content.

 

[TMA]

I've seen people use pakhto words too, I believe it's because of the shows and movies that came out in the past 3 years. You are absolutely right, Indian content needs to be blocked, like how they block our content.

I think that the State ought to also introduce words from smaller languages like Balochi, Kashmiri, Chitrali etc etc into Old Hindi (Urdu).

Thanks for proving that you are just an ignorant Afghani who knows nothing about the history of Punjab.

Do you know many Punjabi Muslims fought alongside Sikhs against the invading Afghani plunderers? (or how many Dakhini Muslims fought alongside Marathas against the Afghan invaders?) Do Afghanis like yourself see them as lesser Muslims? Those invasions by Afghans were purely plundering campaigns with absolutely no religious overtones or undertones as they were often directed against Muslim rulers and Muslim commoners.

Do you know the man in charge of the treasury, as well as the arsenal of the Sikh empire during Ranjit Singh's era, was a Muslim?

Do you know Ranjit Singh's Foreign Minister was also a Muslim?

Do you know how many of his emissaries were Punjabi Muslims?

Of course, you don't.

As for transforming Mughal Masjids into stables, A deplorable act indeed.

But have you forgotten what Ahmad Shah Abdali did to Gurdawaras, esp. the holiest of them for Sikhs, the Golden Temple; blew up the building and filled the pond with ****. Have you forgotten what Mughal Kings did to Sikh Gurus and their children?

Ranjit Singh, later on, handed Muslims most of their mosques back. He even gifted all Nowadrat (Islamic Relics) to the respectable Fakir Family (of Lahore) instead of destroying or desecrating them. Today, Fakir Khana is the largest privately owned museum in South Asia.

And what did the Afghans do? other than indiscriminate loot and plunder

A folk saying ‘khada peeta lahe da, baqi Ahmed shahe da
(what you can consume may be of some benefit to you, the rest is taken away by Ahmed Shah)

The great bard of Punjab, Waris Shah, too explicitly hinted at the threat the Afghan marauder posed:

‘Chadia gazab da katak Kandhar vichon (a terrible army started its march from Kandhar)
Ahmed Shah az gab thin aan pausi (Ahmed Shah will descend from nowhere and strike)’


I can go on and on,

But I don't need to discuss the history of my land and my people with a clueless foreign Afghani racist who holds deep hatred and contempt for Punjabis.

Why do you say he is an Afghan Afghan (Afghan Pukhtoon)?

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I think that the State ought to also introduce words from smaller languages like Balochi, Kashmiri, Chitrali etc etc into Old Hindi (Urdu).

Pure urdu needs to be taught and used again, simple as that. Urdu Is heavily pakhto influenced.

What similar acts were done by Punjabi Muslims? Elaborate, please

Are you a Pakhtun?

You do realize it wasn't all the Afghans right?

 

[TMA]

No, the separation is not natural



So, you didn't say "by Allah I have never used Afghan flags" ... !! I see

Good that you were honest enough to admit that you used to insult/mock Jinnah earlier on but now you don't do that...Nothing against you now

Good day

I think that the original map of Pakistan also included an undivided Punjab?

 

[M. Sarmad]

Why do you say he is an Afghan Afghan (Afghan Pukhtoon)?

Because he uses Afghan flags on other forums and mocks Jinnah and Pakistan

You do realize it wasn't all the Afghans right?

Your point?

 

[TMA]

No, you're just unable to respond to them because you've been caught with your pants down. If you think Indians are similar to us go live with them. Pakistan wasn't made for you.

We share similarities with a minority of Bharatis, that is all. And that part of Bharat should have come to Pakistan. But what is done is done.
I am more comfortable with a Pak Afghan than a Bharati Punjabi.
Also Durrani history and Sikh history are both part of Pakistani history and both did bad. We ought to learn from this, let this not divide. The only empire that I personally consider illegitimate was British India, the others came for loot and plunder only, she came to systematically destroy and enslave, specifically Muslims and their ways. The Sikh Empire turned mosques into stables because Muslim Afghans et al did bad to them, but what did British India do?
1.Destroyed whatever remaining Muslim political power.
2.Destroyed whatever Islamic economic system was there.
3.Destroyed whatever Islamic jurisprudence system was there.
4.Destroyed the Status of the Persian and Arabic tongues.
5.Did all the above and then poured acid on the soil so to speak.
(It was a miracle that number one was somewhat restored with Pakistan).

Even the Sikh Empire did not do the above.

Because he uses Afghan flags on other forums and mocks Jinnah and Pakistan



Your point?

What forums? Any links please?

 

[M. Sarmad]

What forums? Any links please?

He himself posted those links here a few days ago. You can go through his posts if you want.

We share similarities with a minority of Bharatis, that is all. And that part of Bharat should have come to Pakistan. But what is done is done.
I am more comfortable with a Pak Afghan than a Bharati Punjabi.
Also Durrani history and Sikh history are both part of Pakistani history and both did bad. We ought to learn from this, let this not divide. The only empire that I personally consider illegitimate was British India, the others came for loot and plunder only, she came to systematically destroy and enslave, specifically Muslims and their ways. The Sikh Empire turned mosques into stables because Muslim Afghans et al did bad to them, but what did British India do?
1.Destroyed whatever remaining Muslim political power.
2.Destroyed whatever Islamic economic system was there.
3.Destroyed whatever Islamic jurisprudence system was there.
4.Destroyed the Status of the Persian and Arabic tongues.
5.Did all the above and then poured acid on the soil so to speak.
(It was a miracle that number one was somewhat restored with Pakistan).

Even the Sikh Empire did not do the above.

Ahmad Shah Abdali, the founding father of Afghanistan, is a hero for Afghans only.

The devastation of Punjab at his hands has been ingrained in the historical consciousness of its people as a great calamity. Afghan plundering campaigns and raids were very punishing for the general population.

Pakistan is a successor state to the Sikh Empire. Afghans have never forgiven Sikhs for pushing them back to what is now Afghanistan. The Sikhs rolled back the Afghan 'gains' (from Mughals) to the current border that was later formalized as Durand Line by the British. This is the earliest basis of the dispute about the boundary line between modern-day Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the Afghan claim on areas west of the Indus

They hate Ranjit Singh, not because of his alleged anti-Muslim policies (Ranjit was a secular ruler, and Afghans were much crueler and despotic rulers anyway) but because of the humiliation and defeat inflicted on Afghans by the Sikhs.

 

[Asian.Century]

True most of Pakistan was part of turk, Persian and its own ppl devoid of any linkages with Indian Subcontinent, even there are no what so ever traces of Hindu rulers in Pakistan, Punjab, KPK, Balochistan etc.

 

[TMA]

He himself posted those links here a few days ago. You can go through his posts if you want.





Ahmad Shah Abdali, the founding father of Afghanistan, is a hero for Afghans only.

The devastation of Punjab at his hands has been ingrained in the historical consciousness of its people as a great calamity. Afghan plundering campaigns and raids were very punishing for the general population.

Pakistan is a successor state to the Sikh Empire. Afghans have never forgiven Sikhs for pushing them back to what is now Afghanistan. The Sikhs rolled back the Afghan 'gains' (from Mughals) to the current border that was later formalized as Durand Line by the British. This is the earliest basis of the dispute about the boundary line between modern-day Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the Afghan claim on areas west of the Indus

They hate Ranjit Singh, not because of his alleged anti-Muslim policies (Ranjit was a secular ruler, and Afghans were much crueler and despotic rulers anyway) but because of the humiliation and defeat inflicted on Afghans by the Sikhs.

I know that is why Afghanistan hates Punjabis (even the Muslim Punjabis) because of their defeat at the hands of the Sikh Empire. Although they ought to realise that most Sikhs live in Bharat and not Pakistan.
However Pakistan is not the successor state to the Sikh Empire. I disagree with this and I suspect most Pakistanis will disagree with you on this (Unless you mean from a geographic point of view) If anything it would be British India. Although maybe Afghanistan sees Pakistan as the successor state to Pakistan....?????
True it is part of our history but so is the Durrani Empire (at least that part of Pakistan that was included in it). Indeed Afghan history to a certain extent is part of Pakistani history just like Sikh History and Bharati History is a part of Pakistani History to an certain extent.
I am sure you know that most Afghans (Pukhtoons) are Pak and not Afghan Afghan, whereas mos Sikhs are Bharati and not Pak.

Now as to to who was more brutal...I will not get into that...I will say that we ought to learn from this and unite our histories and make it Pakistani. Pakistan is not different from other nations in this regard.....

 

[dexter]

Just recently, we began to see greater interest in Pukhto and new words borrowed from Pukhto entering Pakistani Urdu vocabulary. I think PTI success is a rejuvenation and spread of Pukhtoon culture to the rest of Pakistan.

In another generation, we will be completely unintelligible to Indians and begin to look completely North and West to our Irani, Turk cousins and our Chinese friends.

PTI should expediate the process by banning Indian movies, songs, and vulgar content from entering Pakistan, particularly in Karachi where we unfortunately have a class which idolizes this culture.

We need to focus on creating new media content which pushes forward positive values and strong nationalism, similar to what Turkey has done.

Will you guys stop this nonsense about Karachites?? Go search every source you can indian content is being spread over all Pakistan not just karachi.Whether its Punjab or anyother region people still watch indian movies and dramas.

 

[Gangetic]

This is what I noticed as well. Sindhis marrying with Punjabis, Pathans marrying with Balochis.

And ofcourse Kashmiris marrying with Punjabis and Pathans.​

Soon we will have nothing in common with India.

Yep this is a good thing.
Slowly a Pakistani ethnic group is being made.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Because he uses Afghan flags on other forums and mocks Jinnah and Pakistan



Your point?

We be innocent. On a serious note, there is always 2 sides to a story.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Will you guys stop this nonsense about Karachites?? Go search every source you can indian content is being spread over all Pakistan not just karachi.Whether its Punjab or anyother region people still watch indian movies and dramas.

We can’t deny that some portions of Karachi’s population admire Indian culture more than the rest of Pakistan.

Our government should work to correct those social ills which promote evils among our youth and misguided population.

Don’t be so thin-skinned brother. We have to deal with these issues resolutely.