May Allah save Islam from Pakistan

[kumarkumar1867]

At the end of the day.. one can thank the establishment for letting Najdi distortion of Islam run helter skelter within our nation..
and the thirst of "strategic depth" and proxy wars leading to the eventual destruction of Pakistani society.. and the Pakistani nation.
What is left now is a crumbling state.

Very Right Sir, Pakistani leaders & policy makers of the past have shot their foot for others seeing just short time benefits & rewards.

Pakistani awaam & population was not responsible for what's wrong with state of nation initially.

But if we see today handful of religious fanatics/radicals/terrorists are sh*tting BS under name of islam, and majority of rightful muslims of nation watches it, make jokes about it or discuss this with friends & forget it.

The day when entire nation will unite & wipe out fake & hypocritic religious goons will be the most "mubarakh" day in mordern history of S.Asia.

Religious post and threads shouldn't be allowed as they are banned topics...why you guys refrain from it and post in Defense related threads.

I respect your intention to stop religious trolling & mud throwing on PDF.

But anything like Social, Political, Historical, Cultural, Demographic, Historic or even issue like movies, costumes, cuisines of Pakistan cant be seperated from ISLAM that can be true with Hinduism & India not with pakistan.

Religion if discussed with certain limits of sanity & tolerance it should be welcomed.

 

[ice_man]

Question is HOW will we stop such insanity that prevails?

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Indian Mujaheddin , Deccan mujaheddin , Bombing of Samjhauta express , Maoists ,Demolition of babri , horrendous murder of catholic priest in Kerela , Kashmir attacks and list goes on and on and on . Problem Just not Lie with Pakistan but with us too , however in our case it has not spread rampantly .

Don't disagree with the rest of the post but there is no such thing as Deccan mujahideen in India .It was a fake name used by LeT to mislead the world on 26/11 .

 

[pak-marine]

Another video confirming the fact that this country and its so called muslims are ruining the image and the name of Islam ... Warning Its graphic

 

[Areesh]

What can the government do after salman Taseer case and how the people on this very forum and your lawyers reacted? Its very easy to blame the civilian government which is given rope long enough to hang themselves anyways.

Govt could have at least could have stood with Salman Taseer before his death and wouldn't have deserted him like they did before his murder.

Blaming civilian government is such a joke and a hishonest tactic.

Yeah only Indians have the right to blame civilian govt where Manmohan and congress are responsible for every ill and someone highly controversial like Narindar Modi is the savior. Talk about contradictions.

They are only four year old and have barely enough time to consolidate power like trying to get ISI under their authority, which they had to reverse within 24 hours.

How much power they need to improve their governance level. Do need to tame ISI to improve law and order situation in Karachi. Do they need to control ISI take action against criminals in Karachi. Do they need to control ISI to solve the issues like power crises. Do they need to control ISI to improve economic conditions of Pakistan. Do they need to control ISI to improve governance? Do they need to control ISI to make an independent body to take action against corruption. Do they need to control ISI to improve condition of railway?

Seriously obsession of you Indians with ISI is illogical to say the least.

 

[Don Jaguar]

Well in Pakistan majority of we shias are thinking not to vote Imran Khan because of his support to SSP and LeJ.

 

[Areesh]

Well in Pakistan majority of we shias are thinking not to vote Imran Khan because of his support to SSP and LeJ.

And when did he support LeJ and SSP?

 

[Don Jaguar]

And when did he support LeJ and SSP?

Read post # 1.

He also said to have alliance with jamat-e-islami, The same jamat-e-islami which is trying its best to declare us non muslims.

 

[Areesh]

Read post # 1.

He also said to have alliance with jamat-e-islami, The same jamat-e-islami which is trying its best to declare us non muslims.

And when exactly that happened? Any credible news link to back yourself?

 

[Don Jaguar]

And when exactly that happened? Any credible news link to back yourself?

According to our sources several times in the court but every time they failed to prove that.

 

[Areesh]

According to our sources several times in the court but every time they failed to prove that.

And what's your source and what they failed to prove?

I don't see a news link in your post.

 

[Don Jaguar]

And what's your source and what they failed to prove?

I don't see a news link in your post.

Our people defended us in the court so do we need a prove for that?

 

[Developereo]

What can the government do after salman Taseer case and how the people on this very forum and your lawyers reacted?

Actually, most people here opposed the killing. People's views on the blasphemy law itself varied across the spectrum, but almost no one supported extrajudicial actions.

The fact is that, despite sensationalist claims by liberal writers like Paracha -- who, by the way, are like drug dealers pandering to their judgemental audience's need for a regular fix of self-righteous, sanctimonious sermons about the uneducated, mullah brainwashed hoi polloi -- the people of Pakistan are quite moderate in their views. The religious parties never get above low single digits in votes.

The people of Pakistan, like peope everywhere else, want a stable, secure environment to live their life. They may tend towards the more conservative end of the spectrum, but there is no appetite for lawlessness.

Its very easy to blame the civilian government which is given rope long enough to hang themselves anyways.

What does that mean? The government is the ultimate authority and has the means and responsibility to enforce the law.

The buck stops there.

Blaming civilian government is such a joke and a hishonest tactic. They are only four year old and have barely enough time to consolidate power,

Oh please! Do you know how quickly Zardari installed his people in key positions throughout the country? Even in the private sector, there are stories about corrupt people who had been purged years ago, but had to be reinstated complete with several years back pay plus interest! As soon as the feudal oligarchy comes to town, their entire power structure gets back in place.

like trying to get ISI under their authority, which they had to reverse within 24 hours.

Again, it's fashionable to blame the security establishment, but how exactly do they benefit from lawlessness? The crime and terrorism kills mostly soldiers and security agents. So the whole premise of blaming the ISI for lack of governance is flawed.

What different was happening under the army and commando?

If you ask most Pakistanis, they will tell you that the security and corruption situation is a lot better under military rule. It's still far from perfect, and there are systemic problems, but the feudal/ethnic-based power structure is hopelessly beyond redemption. That's why Imran Khan gives so much hope to people.

 

[Areesh]

Our people defended us in the court so do we need a prove for that?

You didn't give me the link which says that Jamat e Islami is trying to declare you non muslims. I think we can reject your claim that Imran khan supports LeJ or SSP or Jamat e Islami wants to declare you non muslims.

 

[Don Jaguar]

You didn't give me the link which says that Jamat e Islami is trying to declare you non muslims. I think we can reject your claim that Imran khan supports LeJ or SSP or Jamat e Islami wants to declare you non muslims.

Aray bhai video tu dekh le.

These videos are showing that jamat-e-islami tried to declare us non muslims in sind high court and this shia guy Taj Ud Din Haidri went to court from shia's side and he was victorious. Jamat-e-islami wasn't able to prove us as non muslims, In these videos he is telling the story what happened inside the court.