Marines issue: Italy may recall ambassador to India

[coffee_cup]

Last time we took their ambassador hostage. No problems repeating some of those extreme steps. New year is gonna be screwed for some Italian for sure. Most importantly, the remaining Italian should be thrown into a real jail, then they'll know how magnanimous we've been.

I don't think India would dare breaking the Geneva convention by taking Italian ambassador hostage.

What if Italy does the same to your envoy and othe EU countries follow?

 

[Hindustani78]

So what are you gonna do if Italy refuses to send him to India? What are the options available to India?

Send some RAW agents on the mission?

Italian ambassador have gave assurances and there is even guarantee placed and i don't think that Italy would like to spoil relations with Indian nation by disrespecting Supreme Court of India.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

I don't think India would dare breaking the Geneva convention by taking Italian ambassador hostage.

What if Italy does the same to your envoy and othe EU countries follow?

Oh let them then. Itlians are the only ones claiming EU supports this and that, all EU major countries from Germany to UK to France have greater relationships at stake than some shitty marines issue with the Italians. They're nobody in the real world.

Italian ambassador have gave assurances and there is even guarantee placed and i don't think that Italy would like to spoil relations with Indian nation by disrespecting Supreme Court of India.

They actually might. The issue is different here. The marines are just a showpiece See Italians elected a bunch of dumb morons to lead them and this kept putting them in crises after crises. Then when this happened, some dumb-f**k there decided he'll gain political mileage by 'publicly liberating' the marines. That's why this is so public- the french, for instance would have muted and taken the whole thing behind the scenes. These morons are trying to play hookie with their domestic audience at our expense.

 

[coffee_cup]

Oh let them then. Itlians are the only ones claiming EU supports this and that, all EU major countries from Germany to UK to France have greater relationships at stake than some shitty marines issue with the Italians. They're nobody in the real world.

Granted, EU has a lot of inter-country issues, but let me assure you when it comes to diplomatic stand-off, they are gonna stand by Italy.

You can not simply break Geneva convention, just try it and you lose all the moral ground that you otherwise had gained when USA detained your lower level diplomat.

Moral side apart, by breaking Geneva convention, you are gonna set a precedence.

Not good,

 

[Guynextdoor2]

hey @MarkusS - if you Italians elected a bunch of dumb morons to lead your country, that really is your fault. If you think Italy will find 'redemption' by winning in this, that's just fantasy. Those @ssholes will be there for a long long time, and if they're supposed to be your best, god save your country. That's your fate, don't look this way for anything 'redeeming'.

 

[MarkusS]

hey @MarkusS - if you Italians elected a bunch of dumb morons to lead your country, that really is your fault. If you think Italy will find 'redemption' by winning in this, that's just fantasy. Those @ssholes will be there for a long long time, and if they're supposed to be your best, god save your country. That's your fate, don't look this way for anything 'redeeming'.

We redeem nothing. Latorre needs healthcare. Healthcare that india is not able to give at the same standard that italy does.

Also i might remember you that entire EU sides with italy. German ambassador himself in india said that this case hurts EU - India relations badly. Ashton even stopped the freetrade talks. Latorre will not come back and our 2nd marine will go home too. Italy always had great relations with india. It was italy that brought the freetrade talks with india into motion. Italy and india were never hostile with each other. It is up to you how this ends.

 

[Hindustani78]

They actually might. The issue is different here. The marines are just a showpiece See Italians elected a bunch of dumb morons to lead them and this kept putting them in crises after crises. Then when this happened, some dumb-f**k there decided he'll gain political mileage by 'publicly liberating' the marines. That's why this is so public- the french, for instance would have muted and taken the whole thing behind the scenes. These morons are trying to play hookie with their domestic audience at our expense.

Italy is part of EU and even a member of NATO and here EU nations do understand the importance of India, they do know that lot of wrong things are done against Indians and they are even aware of all this. This is a diplomatic issue and should be solved diplomatically.

 

[coffee_cup]

hey @MarkusS - if you Italians elected a bunch of dumb morons to lead your country, that really is your fault. If you think Italy will find 'redemption' by winning in this, that's just fantasy. Those @ssholes will be there for a long long time, and if they're supposed to be your best, god save your country. That's your fate, don't look this way for anything 'redeeming'.

Question: Can we say the same about Indians for electing the extremist mass murderer as their prime minister?

BTW, just for record, in this particular case I do side with India.

@Markus S , Healthcare or not, he is a murderer and must face the justice, he is not on a holiday trip, that he has to get 5-star healthcare treatment. Even the normal Europeans don't get that...

 

[Hindustani78]

We redeem nothing. Latorre needs healthcare. Healthcare that india is not able to give at the same standard that italy does.

Also i might remember you that entire EU sides with italy. German ambassador himself in india said that this case hurts EU - India relations badly. Ashton even stopped the freetrade talks. Latorre will not come back and our 2nd marine will go home too. Italy always had great relations with india. It was italy that brought the freetrade talks with india into motion. Italy and india were never hostile with each other. It is up to you how this ends.

Eu do understand that Supreme Court of India is the highest authority and this issue is having many aspects. Indian maritime zone, protection of Indian fishermen on high seas and even acting professionally , Indian Coast Guards are having advance technologies and there are even technical issues in this case. Compensation to those fishermen families will get but that will not end the real issue. Incident was occurred inside Indian waters and that's why these marines will be tried in India on which Italian government doesn't agree.

Question: Can we say the same about Indians for electing the extremist mass murderer as their prime minister?

BTW, just for record, in this particular case I do side with India.

@Markus S , Healthcare or not, he is a murderer and must face the justice, he is not on a holiday trip, that he has to get 5-star healthcare treatment. Even the normal Europeans don't get that...

Why you are taking things out of proportion ? let the Supreme court decide it .

 

[coffee_cup]

Eu do understand that Supreme Court of India is the highest authority and this issue is having many aspects. Indian maritime zone, protection of Indian fishermen on high seas and even acting professionally , Indian Coast Guards are having advance technologies and there are even technical issues in this case. Compensation those fishermen families will get but that will not end the real issue. Incident was occurred inside Indian waters and that's why these marines will be tried in India on which Italian government doesn't agree.




Why you are taking things out of proportion ? let the Supreme court decide it .

Sorry to say, indian supreme court is a joke.

Always finding some legal loop hole to set terrorists free. We have seen it far too many times where extremist hindu terrorists were set free.

By that meaure, what is the big fuss, if would defuse the situation by setting these two "sailors" free as well?

 

[Hindustani78]

Sorry to say, indian supreme court is a joke.

Always finding some legal loop hole to set terrorists free. We have seen it far too many times where extremist hindu terrorists were set free.

By that meaure, what is the big fuss, if would defuse the situation by setting these two "sailors" free as well?

This marine case is different because here its about 2 different nations and all those talks about Hindu right comes under internal issues.

We all know that Kasab was tried in Indian court as the crime was committed on Indian territory and even he was punished in India and the case of this Italian marine is similar as the Indian fishermen were killed on the Indian waters.

 

[coffee_cup]

This marine case is different because here its about 2 different nations and all those talks about Hindu right comes under internal issues.

We all know that Kasab was tried in Indian court as the crime was committed on Indian territory and even he was punished in India and the case of this Italian marine is similar as the Indian fishermen were killed on the Indian waters.

You are right, that was an internal Indian issue, an Indian punished by Indian court.

But this case seems differnt. I agree.

 

[Hindustani78]

You are right, that was an internal Indian issue, an Indian punished by Indian court.

But this case seems differnt. I agree.

Kasab was not Indian but he was Pakistan national

February 12, 2009
Our citizens did it, Pakistan finally admits - Hindustan Times

How many Ajmal Kasabs are we raising? – The Express Tribune Blog

India can try Ajmal Amir Kasab Pakistan Lastupdate:- Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:30:00 GMT GreaterKashmir.com

 

[coffee_cup]

Kasab was not Indian but he was Pakistan national

February 12, 2009
Our citizens did it, Pakistan finally admits - Hindustan Times

How many Ajmal Kasabs are we raising? – The Express Tribune Blog

Sure, Hindustan times and a blog in New York Times subsidy says so.

But that would be a bit off-topic.

So lets get back to issue on hand, will supreme court be able to dissolve this diplomatic issue, or Bajrangs are gonna complicate things by more chest thumping?

 

[Hindustani78]

Sure, Hindustan times and a blog in New York Times subsidy says so.

But that would be a bit off-topic.

So lets get back to issue on hand, will supreme court be able to dissolve this diplomatic issue, or Bajrangs are gonna complicate things by more chest thumping?

here its the Italian marine who has to come to India.